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Hi guys

The *most important point* in the reconstructing is boost up the
*orthogonality* on the *build/packaging process*, to make *less
dependency*.

rubygems is just secondary product. it's one of possibility after the
reconstructing. it may be one of many way for distribution.

hisa

On 6/26/07, Laurent Sansonetti <lsa...@ap...> wrote:
> Thanks for the translation Eloy :-)
>
> Hisa-san, this is a great idea. However I really wonder if it will be
> interesting to ship RubyCocoa as a gem (or multiple gems).
>
> RubyCocoa is a too specialized project to be installed by RubyGems.
> It's Mac OS X specific, and depends on some projects that are
> currently in misc (like bridgesupport and libffi). It is not possible
> to package libffi and bridgesupport as gems, because libffi is
> statically linked to RubyCocoa (it's a .a file) and the bridge support
> files are now installed inside RubyCocoa.framework (so they need to be
> available during RubyCocoa.framework build time).
>
> Also, gems are good for Ruby libraries and command line utilities, but
> not OSX frameworks (like RubyCocoa.framework).
>
> What will the re-organization do except the idea of shipping RubyCocoa
> as gem(s)?
>
> Laurent
>
> On Jun 25, 2007, at 1:32 PM, Eloy Duran wrote:
>
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > My English summary/translation is available at:
> > http://www.superalloy.nl/blog/2007/06/25/rubycocoa-source-layout-spring-cleaning-now-is-the-time-for-feedback
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Eloy
> >
> > On 6/25/07, FUJIMOTO Hisa <hi...@fo...> wrote:
> >> Hi the committers
> >>
> >> This week I'll do some important work for the source tree and
> >> build/packaging process. So, sorry to please be less commit your code
> >> the repository, if it's not important.
> >>
> >> Currently, Eloy may be able to explain about my idea/thinking about
> >> it
> >> by English, because he made good effort to read my blog and the ML in
> >> japanese (my native lang) about it last week, and I discussed about
> >> it
> >> with him.
> >>
> >> Well, Current RubyCocoa has complex dependency of several parts
> >> especially the build and packaging process. The cause of it may be
> >> that the project was started as just extension library as historical
> >> reason, before version 0.4.  Now I strongly thought that now is the
> >> time to reconstruct the source tree for make lots of things more
> >> simple. Current RubyCocoa is constructed by the following
> >> moudles/components in fact:
> >>
> >> runtime (or core, it's like JRE in Java maybe):
> >> core/framework     # RubyCocoa.framework as shared library
> >> core/extlib        # ruby libraries for the ruby command
> >> core/tests         # testing for the framework depend on extlib
> >>                    # for a developer of RubyCocoa itself
> >>
> >> external (runtime depends on):
> >> external/bridgesupport
> >> external/libffi
> >>
> >> devel (for a developer *using* RubyCocoa):
> >> devel/xcode-templates
> >> devel/examples
> >>
> >> tools (for a developer *using* RubyCocoa maybe):
> >> tools/standalonify
> >> tools/rb_nibtool
> >> tools/gen_bridge_doc
> >> tools/rubycocoa
> >>
> >> # this tree is current idea, it's very mutable at now.
> >>
> >> Tools may be embed the framework at the packaging phase rather than
> >> build process. I guess it's better for orthogonality.
> >>
> >> the point; boost up the orthogonality of each module/component for
> >> build and packaging process. I'm going to start reconstructing soon
> >> on
> >> the branches/rubycocoa-reconstruct-20070625 on the repository.
> >>
> >> Maybe I can't reply enough, because The wrting, especially by
> >> English, may decrease down sometimes  my concentration. sorry ;)
> >>
> >> thanks
> >> --
> >> hisa
> >>
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