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From: Martin <cin...@gm...> - 2004-06-21 09:21:06
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Hi,
I have a suggestion concerning the i18n we are using right now.
I would like to see a class which is a wrapper for "ResourceBundle"
class. The direct usage is not flexible enough for my taste. The
reason is that the translations which we use are not respecting
many languages. Don't forget that there is a certain "order of
words/sentences" which you have to support for clean translations
and translations like "we have "+x+" files open" -> "wir haben "+
x+" Dateien offen" are certainly working for similar languages
like English and German, but not for others (e.g. Polish which
has complex declination while counting things).
Polish example (just to open your eyes):
"Mamy 1 plik otwarty.", "Mamy 2/3/4 pliki otwarte.", "Mamy 5
plikow otwartych."
(plik*=file(s), otwart*=open)
Of course, there are lots other languages which make (other)
problems. The is the GNU gettext manual which explains some
pitfalls (also concerning the l10n).
If you are translating things, expect the unexpectable. This
is only a remark for future. Java offers a solution for this,
as far as I remember (usage of "{1}").
However, I don't suggest to alter the sources right now, because
I want to have a clean package-structure in the later phase for
our release. And we can add the feature directly at the right
place.
I have the impression that we are getting cleaner and cleaner
with our sources. When do we release an alpha preview? Everything
is ready and set?
Martin
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From: Christoph W. <chr...@we...> - 2004-06-21 10:05:42
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Martin wrote:
> Of course, there are lots other languages which make (other)
> problems. The is the GNU gettext manual which explains some pitfalls
> (also concerning the l10n). =20
>=20
> If you are translating things, expect the unexpectable. This
> is only a remark for future. Java offers a solution for this, as far
> as I remember (usage of "{1}").=20
I think this first localization effort brings our project to a broader
audience. Of course not everything is perfect but let's solve the =
problems
as they appear. Are there any open source projects you know that have
excellent localization? We could take a look what they did better...
> However, I don't suggest to alter the sources right now, because I
> want to have a clean package-structure in the later phase for our
> release. And we can add the feature directly at the right place. =20
A strange situation for software projects: Increasing Entropy ;)
> I have the impression that we are getting cleaner and cleaner with
> our sources. When do we release an alpha preview? Everything is ready
> and set? =20
Id' like to update the screenshots for our site - insert some screens =
(on
Mac OS X - wonderful...) Matthias sent to me. I guess we have reached =
alpha
quality - perhaps even beta! Few bugs, few strange behavior.
I set up Install Anywhere Now! to be able to produce Installers for =
Windows,
Linux, Mac etc. in minutes. What's our strategy? WebStart, Installers, =
plain
jar? I'd like to have all of that!
Ciao
Christoph
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From: Martin <cin...@gm...> - 2004-06-21 13:55:40
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Am Mon, den 21.06.2004 schrieb Christoph Walcher um 12:04: > Id' like to update the screenshots for our site - insert some screens (on > Mac OS X - wonderful...) Matthias sent to me. I guess we have reached alpha > quality - perhaps even beta! Few bugs, few strange behavior. Alpha is OK. For Beta my aim is to introduce the new package structure. > I set up Install Anywhere Now! to be able to produce Installers for Windows, > Linux, Mac etc. in minutes. What's our strategy? WebStart, Installers, plain > jar? I'd like to have all of that! We can have many ways how to install RssView. I personally like WebStart, because it comes from Sun and I like to show people how technologies work. I think, the project has already many nifty examples that show people how Java _should_ work. Why not stay on course and push the WebStart technology? Btw, plain JAR is boring. Installer is fine. That's what the Windows-community expects. Martin |
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From: Matthias S. <sch...@mo...> - 2004-06-21 21:20:34
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Hi *, I vote for WebStart ;-) cheers, Matthias Am Montag, 21. Juni 2004 15:55 schrieb Martin: > Am Mon, den 21.06.2004 schrieb Christoph Walcher um 12:04: > > Id' like to update the screenshots for our site - insert some screens (on > > Mac OS X - wonderful...) Matthias sent to me. I guess we have reached > > alpha quality - perhaps even beta! Few bugs, few strange behavior. > > Alpha is OK. For Beta my aim is to introduce the new package structure. > > > I set up Install Anywhere Now! to be able to produce Installers for > > Windows, Linux, Mac etc. in minutes. What's our strategy? WebStart, > > Installers, plain jar? I'd like to have all of that! > > We can have many ways how to install RssView. I personally like WebStart, > because it comes from Sun and I like to show people how technologies work. > > I think, the project has already many nifty examples that show people > how Java _should_ work. Why not stay on course and push the WebStart > technology? > > Btw, plain JAR is boring. Installer is fine. That's what the > Windows-community expects. > > Martin > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by The 2004 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Learn from the experts at JavaOne(SM), Sun's Worldwide Java Developer > Conference, June 28 - July 1 at the Moscone Center in San Francisco, CA > REGISTER AND SAVE! http://java.sun.com/javaone/sf Priority Code NWMGYKND > _______________________________________________ > Rssview-developers mailing list > Rss...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rssview-developers -- Matthias Schmidt Viehtriftstrasse 49 67346 Speyer Tel. : 06232-4867 Fax. : 06232-640089 Mobil.: 0171-5767209 |
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