From: Mark W. <mar...@nt...> - 2011-03-12 13:23:49
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When did ROX stop adding drive directories to new panels? And why? |
From: Tony H. <h...@re...> - 2011-03-12 14:26:49
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On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:23:24 +0000 Mark Williams <mar...@nt...> wrote: > When did ROX stop adding drive directories to new panels? And why? I think that's ROX-Session's setup script, I vaguely remember changing it when I resurrected the C version. I changed it because fixed drives don't have the same sort of significance in *nix as they did in RISC OS. The user's home directory is likely to be far more useful in ROX and doesn't that get put on the pinboard by default? So putting it on the panel would be redundant. As for optical drives and floppies (who still uses floppies?) they're better handled by DevTray or my Media applet. |
From: Jim L. <jc...@au...> - 2011-03-12 14:36:34
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In article <20110312140524.60050eb4@toddler>, Tony Houghton <h...@re...> wrote: > On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:23:24 +0000 Mark Williams > <mar...@nt...> wrote: > > When did ROX stop adding drive directories to new panels? And why? > As for optical drives and floppies (who still uses floppies?) they're > better handled by DevTray or my Media applet. FWIW I find that having 'media' on the ROX panel works fine. Only wish I have is that ROX would disable and grey out the 'delete' option for a right-click on the removable devices. But (fingers crossed) not had an 'oops!' as yet when I go to click 'unmount'. Slainte, Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
From: Mark W. <mar...@nt...> - 2011-03-12 16:03:09
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Tony Houghton wrote: > On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:23:24 +0000 > Mark Williams<mar...@nt...> wrote: > >> When did ROX stop adding drive directories to new panels? And why? > > I think that's ROX-Session's setup script, I vaguely remember changing > it when I resurrected the C version. I changed it because fixed drives > don't have the same sort of significance in *nix as they did in RISC OS. > The user's home directory is likely to be far more useful in ROX and > doesn't that get put on the pinboard by default? So putting it on the > panel would be redundant. As for optical drives and floppies (who still > uses floppies?) they're better handled by DevTray or my Media applet. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Colocation vs. Managed Hosting > A question and answer guide to determining the best fit > for your organization - today and in the future. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d I,liked having a cd/dvd drive icon on the panel because I could use the eject function to open the tray. Thus saving me the bother of having to reach down and press the button myself :-) |
From: Ariszló <ar...@gm...> - 2011-03-13 10:10:05
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On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Tony Houghton <h...@re...> wrote: > they're better handled by DevTray or my Media applet. How to get your Media applet? I have looked around at http://realh.co.uk/ but I cannot find it. |
From: Tony H. <h...@re...> - 2011-03-13 13:56:09
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On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:09:57 +0100 Ariszló <ar...@gm...> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Tony Houghton <h...@re...> wrote: > > they're better handled by DevTray or my Media applet. > > How to get your Media applet? I have looked around at > http://realh.co.uk/ but I cannot find it. There are details of where to get it at <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=23777664>. I never did get round to "finishing" it and releasing it properly but it has enough core functionality to make it usable. |
From: Jim L. <jc...@au...> - 2011-03-13 11:49:49
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In article <ilgvjo$p0j$1...@do...>, Mark Williams <mar...@nt...> wrote: > > They only let you do it if there's already a disc in the tray. I'm > talking about opening the empty tray by clicking on a panel icon :D Pardon my basic linux ignorance about this. But what commands are actually sent when you click 'eject' or 'unmount' over either a /media/dvd (or /cd) or an identified mounted device in /media ? Slainte, Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
From: Tony H. <h...@re...> - 2011-03-13 13:43:35
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On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:34:25 +0000 (GMT) Jim Lesurf <jc...@au...> wrote: > In article <ilgvjo$p0j$1...@do...>, Mark Williams > <mar...@nt...> wrote: > > > > > They only let you do it if there's already a disc in the tray. I'm > > talking about opening the empty tray by clicking on a panel icon :D > > Pardon my basic linux ignorance about this. But what commands are > actually sent when you click 'eject' or 'unmount' over either > a /media/dvd (or /cd) or an identified mounted device in /media ? I think rox-filer uses the standard mount, umount and eject commands which have the disadvantage of requiring root access unless users are granted the rights in /etc/fstab. The Media applet uses functions in the gudev library. Nautilus (GNOME's file manager) provides "unmount", "eject" and "safely remove" depending on the device, but most seem to mis-report what they're capable of (eg eject for a USB memory stick) and Nautilus seems to have a habit of remounting devices immediately after "safely removing" them, or making them disappear entirely from the system until replugged. For Media I thought it was less confusing to only provide "unmount" and only mount on request (when a drive's icon is clicked). |
From: Tony H. <h...@re...> - 2011-03-12 16:46:38
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On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:02:34 +0000 Mark Williams <mar...@nt...> wrote: > I,liked having a cd/dvd drive icon on the panel because I could use > the eject function to open the tray. Thus saving me the bother of > having to reach down and press the button myself :-) Don't Media or DevTray let you do that? |
From: Mark W. <mar...@nt...> - 2011-03-12 23:29:38
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Tony Houghton wrote: > On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:02:34 +0000 > Mark Williams<mar...@nt...> wrote: > >> I,liked having a cd/dvd drive icon on the panel because I could use >> the eject function to open the tray. Thus saving me the bother of >> having to reach down and press the button myself :-) > > Don't Media or DevTray let you do that? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Colocation vs. Managed Hosting > A question and answer guide to determining the best fit > for your organization - today and in the future. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d They only let you do it if there's already a disc in the tray. I'm talking about opening the empty tray by clicking on a panel icon :D |