From: Tony H. <to...@re...> - 2002-11-21 18:40:32
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I've just started using ROX because of Gnome currently being dead in Debian unstable. Here are some things that I think could be improved. Options ------- Most options only seem to be available from the filer's main options dialogue. I've just found that you can access them from the panel and the backdrop, but I think it would be a good idea for these to have their own options available separately in their top-level menus. Menu structure -------------- Although I "grew up" on RISC OS, after using Gnome (and Windows) for several years, I find the monolithic filer menu a little counter-intuitive and clumsy. I would like an option for it to have a menu bar. I think the Options, Window, Help, and probably Display submenus should then be in the menu bar. Then the object-specific items could be moved into the top level of the pop-up menu, making them more accessible. Maybe even have separate pop-ups depending on whether you open a menu over an object or a bit of blank space - having just the Select and New submenus for the latter, and these too could be moved to the top-level. Note I said option above, because I think some people might not like it, and it looks like you haven't fallen into Gnome 2's trap of trying to bury all the advanced stuff to try to make it look friendlier. Pager ----- This is quite good, but when it's reduced to fit on the panel, it's distorted, because it's only squashed vertically and not also horizontally. Moving stuff about on the panel ------------------------------- I think there needs to be a little bit of dead area between items, making it easier to position them between each other, otherwise I keep accidentally trying to open App shells in each other. Maybe it could allow freedom of placement like in Gnome's panel, although snapping to a grid would also be nice. And, again like gnome-panel, could it standardise on middle button to move items? Currently there seems to be no way to move the Pager; I haven't tried any other applets. Creating App shells ------------------- How about having some sort of control where you can drag a Unix executable, and have it help automatically creat an App wrapper? It could have a drag target for an image to create an icon, allow you to add options to the command line in AppRun, make links for Help etc. -- TH * http://www.realh.co.uk |
From: Tony H. <to...@re...> - 2002-11-21 19:33:30
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In <200...@re...>, Tony Houghton wrote: > Pager > ----- > > This is quite good, but when it's reduced to fit on the panel, it's > distorted, because it's only squashed vertically and not also > horizontally. Much more easily changed than I thought. I find a gtk_widget_set_size_request width of 72 instead of 100 looks about the best. -- TH * http://www.realh.co.uk |
From: Thomas L. <ta...@ec...> - 2002-11-27 11:42:57
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On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 06:40:06PM +0000, Tony Houghton wrote: > Most options only seem to be available from the filer's main options > dialogue. I've just found that you can access them from the panel and > the backdrop, but I think it would be a good idea for these to have > their own options available separately in their top-level menus. It could go straight to the appropriate section when you open the options window. But, getting to the options from the pinboard may be the first thing a new user does, so having the language settings appear first is needed... > Although I "grew up" on RISC OS, after using Gnome (and Windows) for > several years, I find the monolithic filer menu a little > counter-intuitive and clumsy. Notice that the operations submenu is already opened and right next to the mouse pointer when the menu is opened, so there's no real speed advantage (also, speed users can bind keys to menu entries!). You can also Ctrl+Menu click to get just the submenu. > I think there needs to be a little bit of dead area between items, > making it easier to position them between each other, otherwise I keep > accidentally trying to open App shells in each other. Maybe it could > allow freedom of placement like in Gnome's panel, although snapping to a > grid would also be nice. And, again like gnome-panel, could it > standardise on middle button to move items? Currently there seems to be > no way to move the Pager; I haven't tried any other applets. It's up to the applet to pass the event on, or filer never sees it. The pager isn't released yet ;-) Perhaps it would be better to disallow dragging one panel icon onto another. Probably, button-1 drags should move icons around (like on the pinboard) anyway. > How about having some sort of control where you can drag a Unix > executable, and have it help automatically creat an App wrapper? Got several ;-) There's even a tutorial for writing one in python, although it depends on pygtk-1.99.14 so I haven't put it up yet... -- Thomas Leonard http://rox.sourceforge.net ta...@ec... ta...@us... GPG: 9242 9807 C985 3C07 44A6 8B9A AE07 8280 59A5 3CC1 |