## rosegarden-user

 [Rosegarden-user] Pickups From: David A. Greene - 2006-08-15 01:52:40 ```Searching the web and the list archive didn't reveal anything immediately obvious about how to enter pickup notes in notation mode. How is this done? -Dave ```
 Re: [Rosegarden-user] Pickups From: D. Michael McIntyre - 2006-08-15 16:01:16 Attachments: pickup0.png pickup3.png pickup2.png pickup1.png ```On Monday 14 August 2006 9:51 pm, David A. Greene wrote: > Searching the web and the list archive didn't reveal anything > immediately obvious about how to enter pickup notes in notation > mode. > > How is this done? =46inally a question that hasn't been asked 10,000 times! This is interest= ing. =20 I've never tried this, so let me see if I can work it out. Notes have to be inside a segment, so if you want a note or two before a=20 barline, you have to have a note or two's worth of segment before that=20 barline. To have pickup notes before bar 1, you'd need to set the=20 composition to start before bar 1, and draw the segment out appropriately. Let's take a typical example out of Arban's, because it's handy. Two 8th=20 notes pickup before the first barline, last measure only has three beats, i= n=20 4/4. This is a good example, because it will only be a question of draggin= g=20 the segment to the left by one whole beat. So, let's compress this example to three measures, for brevity. Draw out a= =20 segment that begins at the beginning and extends to barline 4, spanning thr= ee=20 measures of space. see: pickup0.png Draw notes. Notes going in do not match barlines with notes on the source= =20 page, of course but the beats work out in the end, and it all fits. (You=20 could also draw out an empty segment, and fill it later. That would probab= ly=20 be better, actually, so you can work around the barlines as they are going = to=20 exist. No matter, you should have taken the point from this anyway, I hope= =2E) see: pickup1.png Now, we want to shift this thing to the left by one whole beat. First, we= =20 need a place to put it, so Composition -> Change Start and End Time -> Star= t=20 Bar. Change to 0. (Observe the refresh bug I just uncovered, and have jus= t=20 reported.) Now drag it back. Since it's a whole beat, the drag will snap.= =20 =46or less than a beat, you'd have to hold shift, and place your move=20 carefully, using the beat:bar:tick coordinates in the text float. see: pickup2.png Now have a look in the notation editor, and voil=E0. see: pickup3.png (Note that you have to place the segment very precisely for this to come ou= t=20 right. If you are off by even a trivial amount when you move it left, the= =20 resulting notation will be full of red barlines and/or weird 64th rests. I= =20 found moving by only an 8th note to be much more fiddly, to the point of=20 being downright unwieldy, and maybe all the way impossible. I didn't try=20 long enough to get a good result. Moving by whole divisions of the time=20 signature numerator seems the best way to go, and if you have need to do=20 otherwise, I guess you will have to fiddle longer than I did to see if you= =20 can get there.) CCing to you, David, because the list will reject this post, due to excessi= ve=20 attachments. I think Guillaume should go ahead and let it through, but jus= t=20 in case.... Thank you for asking an interesting question. I hope this has been=20 enlightening. =2D-=20 D. Michael 'Silvan' McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 Author of Rosegarden Companion http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ ```