From: Abraham D. <abr...@gm...> - 2004-08-28 04:56:47
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Hello Group, Im just a new user of Linux....Im learning the nitty gritty issues of linux ....I was trying to install rosegarden on my Fedora Core 2 ...the installation asked for some libraries ...i have given everything ...and successfully it got installed. But i couldnt find it on the program list ... I would be grateful if someone help me in running rosegarden... also ..im running KDE & Gnome ...whether gnome is supported by rosegarden? Thanks in advance.... |
From: Silvan <dmm...@us...> - 2004-08-28 05:22:45
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On Saturday 28 August 2004 12:56 am, Abraham Durairaj wrote: > Hello Group, > > Im just a new user of Linux....Im learning the nitty gritty issues of > linux ....I was trying to install rosegarden on my Fedora Core 2 > ...the installation asked for some libraries ...i have given > everything ...and successfully it got installed. But i couldnt find > it on the program list ... That's not really a Rosegarden problem, and I don't have time to get into all the various alternatives you have for dealing with that. The least complicated thing I can suggest is that you find your desktop environment's "run command" function and try running it from there for the time being. In KDE this is alt+F2 or "Run Command" off the KDE menu. GNOME is probably similar, but I haven't looked at GNOME in years. The name you want to type into the box will probably be either "rosegarden" "rosegarden4" or "rosegarden-4" depending on how your package was built. Some distros rename the binary to avoid it conflicting with the previous, ancient incarnation of Rosegarden. > also ..im running KDE & Gnome ...whether gnome is supported by rosegarden? It should work so long as you have the necessary KDE libraries installed. I can't actually testify that it does because I haven't looked at GNOME in years. Also, here, it sounds like you're probably going to need this: http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <dmm...@us...> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
From: tim h. <te...@gl...> - 2004-08-28 11:18:00
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Last Saturday 28 August 2004 06:22, Silvan was like: > It should work so long as you have the necessary KDE libraries installed. > =A0I can't actually testify that it does because I haven't looked at GNOM= E in > years. Just to confirm. Yes of course it does :-) cheers tim hall |
From: Silvan <dmm...@us...> - 2004-08-28 13:26:27
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On Saturday 28 August 2004 07:17 am, tim hall wrote: > Last Saturday 28 August 2004 06:22, Silvan was like: > > It should work so long as you have the necessary KDE libraries installe= d. > > =A0I can't actually testify that it does because I haven't looked at GN= OME > > in years. > > Just to confirm. > Yes of course it does :-) More's the pity. If it didn't, perhaps it would put and end to bad taste a= nd=20 encourage everyone to run a *real* desktop environment. One named after a= =20 completely random, arbitrary letter of the alphabet instead of one based on= a=20 silly acronym that describes messages just like this one. Oh, wait, that=20 would be TROLL. :) Oh well, GNOME, TROLL, I don't see a K in either=20 one. :) (For the humor impaired, this is what passes for a joke among people with a= =20 disturbingly bad sense of humor, who only got three hours of sleep. Please= =20 do run whatever you want and ignore my insane babbling this morning.) =2D-=20 Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <dmm...@us...> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
From: tim h. <te...@gl...> - 2004-08-29 16:38:38
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Last Saturday 28 August 2004 14:26, Silvan was like: > On Saturday 28 August 2004 07:17 am, tim hall wrote: > > Last Saturday 28 August 2004 06:22, Silvan was like: > > > It should work so long as you have the necessary KDE libraries > > > installed. I can't actually testify that it does because I haven't > > > looked at GNOME in years. > > > > Just to confirm. > > Yes of course it does :-) > > More's the pity. If it didn't, perhaps it would put and end to bad taste > and encourage everyone to run a *real* desktop environment. One named > after a completely random, arbitrary letter of the alphabet instead of one > based on a silly acronym that describes messages just like this one. Oh, > wait, that would be TROLL. :) Oh well, GNOME, TROLL, I don't see a K in > either one. :) > > (For the humor impaired, this is what passes for a joke among people with a > disturbingly bad sense of humor, who only got three hours of sleep. Please > do run whatever you want and ignore my insane babbling this morning.) Yes, we understand ;-) In fact I shall completely ignore that last comment except to say that I don't actually use a Desktop Environment at all as such, running just barebones Openbox-3, Rosegarden works just as well in this situation as it does on any desktop as far as I'm aware, it relies on a very small subset of the KDE libraries in order to run, so you don't have to install the whole bloated mass if you don't want to ;-] I have a relatively low spec box, so it really helps to minimise the number of background processes in order to get the best out of most music applications, not just RG. If you have lots of memory to spare it's probably not an issue if you have properly configured the realtime capabilities, which usually involves a kernel specially patched for multimedia use like the ones available from AGNULA or PlanetCCRMA. PlanetCCRMA isn't fully stable with FC2 yet, but it should be fairly soon & well worth checking out. http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/ Have fun making music. tim hall |
From: Silvan <dmm...@us...> - 2004-08-29 17:21:20
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> > (For the humor impaired, this is what passes for a joke among people with > Yes, we understand ;-) You do, but you'd be surprised how often remarks like that turn into a flamewar. > does on any desktop as far as I'm aware, it relies on a very small subset > of the KDE libraries in order to run, so you don't have to install the > whole bloated mass if you don't want to ;-] Feh. :) > I have a relatively low spec box, so it really helps to minimise the number > of background processes in order to get the best out of most music > applications, not just RG. If you have lots of memory to spare it's > probably not an issue if you have properly configured the realtime Specs help. :) I have a P4 2.0 GHz with 512 MB of RAM, and I run a terminal/server arrangement that leaves me with four entire, bloated, resource gobbling KDE sessions running on the server at the same time. Only two of them are usually active at any given moment, since I only have one terminal (that has three virtual ones.) I had to get an AGNULA kernel to get any kind of acceptable JACK though, even if I just ran Rosegarden via twm or something ultra light. I fought it for a long time, but there's no denying it. The kernel makes much more difference than tripling your CPU speed and doubling your RAM. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <dmm...@us...> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
From: tim h. <te...@gl...> - 2004-08-30 13:16:10
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Last Sunday 29 August 2004 18:21, Silvan was like: > > > (For the humor impaired, this is what passes for a joke among people > > > with > > > > Yes, we understand ;-) > > You do, but you'd be surprised how often remarks like that turn into a > flamewar. > > > does on any desktop as far as I'm aware, it relies on a very small subset > > of the KDE libraries in order to run, so you don't have to install the > > whole bloated mass if you don't want to ;-] > > Feh. :) heh. ;) > > I have a relatively low spec box, so it really helps to minimise the > > number of background processes in order to get the best out of most music > > applications, not just RG. If you have lots of memory to spare it's > > probably not an issue if you have properly configured the realtime > > Specs help. :) I have a P4 2.0 GHz with 512 MB of RAM, and I run a > terminal/server arrangement that leaves me with four entire, bloated, > resource gobbling KDE sessions running on the server at the same time. > Only two of them are usually active at any given moment, since I only have > one terminal (that has three virtual ones.) Incr.cr.cr.credible !:-D > I had to get an AGNULA kernel to get any kind of acceptable JACK though, > even if I just ran Rosegarden via twm or something ultra light. I fought > it for a long time, but there's no denying it. The kernel makes much more > difference than tripling your CPU speed and doubling your RAM. Yes, a kernel patched for realtime operation does seem to make the biggest difference. If you had <= 128MB RAM, then doubling it would make a noticeable difference, certainly CPU speed seems less relevant once you're over the minimum system requirements for the applications you want to run and the relative merits of whatever distro/DE/WM are really a matter of personal choice. Oh well, I'll just have to put the asbestos trousers away then ;-) cheers tim hall |
From: Silvan <dmm...@us...> - 2004-08-31 02:54:22
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On Monday 30 August 2004 09:15 am, tim hall wrote: > > Specs help. :) I have a P4 2.0 GHz with 512 MB of RAM, and I run a > > terminal/server arrangement that leaves me with four entire, bloated, > > resource gobbling KDE sessions running on the server at the same time. > > Only two of them are usually active at any given moment, since I only > > have one terminal (that has three virtual ones.) > > Incr.cr.cr.credible !:-D It works out surprisingly well, really. The other users in the family don't do anything particularly interesting with their sessions, so they don't run many processes or use much RAM. I could probably add several more before I noticed anything going on. Yet another "try that with Windows" example. > Oh well, I'll just have to put the asbestos trousers away then ;-) Yeah, do. I couldn't care less what anybody else uses, as long as I still have my doubly bloated, extra syrupy KDE with four kinds of chocolate sprinkles, six kinds of nuts, three kinds of whipped cream, and five kinds of cherries on top. :) -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <dmm...@us...> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
From: tim h. <te...@gl...> - 2004-08-31 11:12:05
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Last Tuesday 31 August 2004 03:54, Silvan was like: > Yet another "try that with Windows" example. Abso'frickin'lutely. :) btw: my son uses KDE and he thinks it's fab, he's got a mad combination of Yu-Gi-Oh, Beyblade and Spiderman themes. Eye Candy? Mmm, I think he bought the entire sweetshop ;-) tim hall |
From: Silvan <dmm...@us...> - 2004-08-31 14:22:51
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On Tuesday 31 August 2004 07:11 am, tim hall wrote: > btw: my son uses KDE and he thinks it's fab, he's got a mad combination of > Yu-Gi-Oh, Beyblade and Spiderman themes. Eye Candy? Mmm, I think he bought > the entire sweetshop ;-) Ugh. I shudder to think what my own son's desktop must look like. I'd rather not know. I never look in his room either. What I don't see can't upset me. :) -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <dmm...@us...> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
From: Mark K. <mk...@co...> - 2004-08-31 14:31:08
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Silvan wrote: > On Tuesday 31 August 2004 07:11 am, tim hall wrote: > > >>btw: my son uses KDE and he thinks it's fab, he's got a mad combination of >>Yu-Gi-Oh, Beyblade and Spiderman themes. Eye Candy? Mmm, I think he bought >>the entire sweetshop ;-) > > > Ugh. I shudder to think what my own son's desktop must look like. I'd rather > not know. I never look in his room either. What I don't see can't upset > me. :) > <hehe!!> This is going to be a good thread. My 12 year old has a Manga picture of some babe (Love Hina maybe?) dressed in a skimpy bikini. He's a KDE user when doing his homework. |
From: Silvan <dmm...@us...> - 2004-08-31 15:47:17
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On Tuesday 31 August 2004 10:30 am, Mark Knecht wrote: > > Ugh. I shudder to think what my own son's desktop must look like. I'd > > rather not know. I never look in his room either. What I don't see > > can't upset me. :) > > <hehe!!> This is going to be a good thread. My 12 year old has a Manga > picture of some babe (Love Hina maybe?) dressed in a skimpy bikini. He's > a KDE user when doing his homework. My 10 year old hasn't discovered testosterone yet. Girls are ugly, smelly, and irritating. No interest whatsoever in even the most scantily-clad and well-built of examples. His wallpaper is a 4-4-0 American steam locomotive. Probably just as well. Once that switch flips, he'll spend the rest of his life having to struggle to keep the larger of his two brains in control thenceforth. :) He's a KDE user period. I'm not absolutely hell bent on keeping him away from Windows, but I'm not going to volunteer to go buy a copy either, nor a computer to put it on. So far, that's a non-issue too. He's really not much interested in computers at all. Oh well, that will come too. Probably about the same time he discovers girls, and then realizes that there are 397.8 quadrillion porn sites out there. Ugh. Someone Mom knows... Fourteen year old daughter asked for the pill, and her parents told her no, that getting her the pill was giving her a green light to have sex, and that she had no such green light. Now she's pregnant. My daughter is seven, and she's one of the most popular kids in school. Wants to be a cheerleader. Ugh! I'm especially ill-equipped to deal with this last set of circumstances. Popular? Cheerleader? How the hell is an old time computer dork supposed to cope with all that? I don't even know what I'm coping with. All I have are second-hand accounts of parties I never got invited to and whatnot, and movies. Ugh. Raising children is frightening. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <dmm...@us...> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |