From: Larry T. <lt...@we...> - 2003-02-27 04:13:08
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As per my version, help/about says this: Rosegarden 4-0.8.5 (using KDE 3.0.3-8.3 Red Hat) .. and I am using a Red-hat 8.0 distribution, with the rosegarden4 rpm from planet CCRMA> Hello everyone - I hope you're not too annoyed by what is probably yet another question from a new user. I did take a quick look through the archives and didn't immediately see the answer to my questions, at least not in a quick form. I have two questions actually - how to assign the midi input port, and how to create/redefine tracks and segments. As to the first question: What I want to do is set up Rosegarden to accept MIDI input through an external MIDI port, and then be able to assign tracks to play through either the external port, or (more urgently) through an ALSA virtual MIDI port which is feeding, say, PD, for example, using aconnect. Also (obviously?), if a certain track is selected, I would like what every I play into the external MIDI port to be echoed on whatever port that track is assigned to. In order to do this, how do I tell Rosegarden which MIDI port to use for its input? Or do I need to use aconnect to connect the real MIDI input port to the same virtual port I'm using for output to PD? My apologies in advance it this only a problem for me because I don't understand how ALSA works. Another problem: how do I set up the parameters for a track and create segments in a track? I tried following the instructions in the help under "Chapter 2: using Rosegarden / the track editor": "Tracks can be assigned to a range of MIDI or audio instruments. To assign a track to an instrument, click and hold with the left mouse button on the track label: a pop-up menu will appear with a list of all the available instruments in it. " Fine, this worked - the pop-up menu appeared, but what happens then? I click on an instrument, the pop-pup dissapears, and nothing in the track pane has changed. Then to add further mystery, we read: "In the picture above we see two segments (shown as yellowy-green blocks) on the track editor, shown on tracks that are assigned to the "IIWU Synth" instrument. " That's very nice. Congratulations on the abrupt segue. But how can I, the lowly user, accomplish the same thing (creating segments)? I realize that Rosegarden is a work in progress and it is probably more urgent to get things working right now, than to refine the documentation, so please don't take this as an insult :-) But still, it would be nice if someone, maybe another user, can help get me started. Thanks in advance everyone, and Best regards Larry Troxler |
From: Mark K. <mar...@at...> - 2003-02-27 05:24:27
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Larry, Hi. In Rosegarden's "Settings -> Configure Rosegarden" and then Sequencer-> Recording, mke sure you choose the MIDI input you want to record from. RG will only record from the input set on this page. To attach a recorded track to a specific output or soft synth, hold down the left mouse button over the track for a couple of seconds. You'll get a pop up menu with all of your MIDI outputs, and each of their ports, and each MIDI channel. Select one and that's what RG will drive from that track. Hope this helps! Mark On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 20:17, Larry Troxler wrote: > As per my version, help/about says this: > > Rosegarden 4-0.8.5 (using KDE 3.0.3-8.3 Red Hat) > > .. and I am using a Red-hat 8.0 distribution, with the rosegarden4 rpm from > planet CCRMA> > > Hello everyone - I hope you're not too annoyed by what is probably yet another > question from a new user. I did take a quick look through the archives and > didn't immediately see the answer to my questions, at least not in a quick > form. > > I have two questions actually - how to assign the midi input port, and how to > create/redefine tracks and segments. > > As to the first question: What I want to do is set up Rosegarden to accept > MIDI input through an external MIDI port, and then be able to assign tracks > to play through either the external port, or (more urgently) through an ALSA > virtual MIDI port which is feeding, say, PD, for example, using aconnect. > Also (obviously?), if a certain track is selected, I would like what every I > play into the external MIDI port to be echoed on whatever port that track is > assigned to. > > In order to do this, how do I tell Rosegarden which MIDI port to use for its > input? Or do I need to use aconnect to connect the real MIDI input port to > the same virtual port I'm using for output to PD? My apologies in advance it > this only a problem for me because I don't understand how ALSA works. > > Another problem: how do I set up the parameters for a track and create > segments in a track? I tried following the instructions in the help under > "Chapter 2: using Rosegarden / the track editor": > > "Tracks can be assigned to a range of MIDI or audio instruments. To assign a > track to an instrument, click and hold with the left mouse button on the > track label: a pop-up menu will appear with a list of all the available > instruments in it. " > > Fine, this worked - the pop-up menu appeared, but what happens then? I click > on an instrument, the pop-pup dissapears, and nothing in the track pane has > changed. > > Then to add further mystery, we read: > > "In the picture above we see two segments (shown as yellowy-green blocks) on > the track editor, shown on tracks that are assigned to the "IIWU Synth" > instrument. " > > That's very nice. Congratulations on the abrupt segue. But how can I, the > lowly user, accomplish the same thing (creating segments)? > > I realize that Rosegarden is a work in progress and it is probably more urgent > to get things working right now, than to refine the documentation, so please > don't take this as an insult :-) > > But still, it would be nice if someone, maybe another user, can help get me > started. > > Thanks in advance everyone, and > Best regards > > Larry Troxler > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Scholarships for Techies! > Can't afford IT training? All 2003 ictp students receive scholarships. > Get hands-on training in Microsoft, Cisco, Sun, Linux/UNIX, and more. > www.ictp.com/training/sourceforge.asp > _______________________________________________ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Ros...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user |
From: Chris C. <ca...@al...> - 2003-02-27 09:55:28
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Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi. In Rosegarden's "Settings -> Configure Rosegarden" and then > Sequencer-> Recording, mke sure you choose the MIDI input you want to > record from. RG will only record from the input set on this page. That feature is only in CVS at the moment, it wasn't in 0.8.5 as found on Planet CCRMA. 0.8.5 actually has no way in the GUI to change the MIDI input. However, you _should_ be able to change the input by connecting a different port to rosegardensequencer using kaconnect once RG is running. I don't know how far that actually works in practice. > To attach a recorded track to a specific output or soft synth, hold > down the left mouse button over the track for a couple of seconds. > You'll get a pop up menu [...] Larry's email actually already said: >> Fine, this worked - the pop-up menu appeared, but what happens >> then? I click on an instrument, the pop-pup dissapears, and nothing >> in the track pane has changed. The problem is that there's no feedback in the GUI unless you have the instrument parameter box visible. Go to the Settings menu and choose Show Instrument Parameter Box; a box will appear to the left of the track pane that describes which instrument the currently- selected track is assigned to. Click on another track header to select another track and thus change which track it describes. Alternatively, also in Settings, switch off the "Show Track Labels" option; then the track headers themselves will show the instrument name rather than the track name. We really need to do a rather better job of this sort of feedback; it's very easy to forget, after configuring your own system so it works for you, that the defaults actually give you no feedback for an instrument change at all. (Especially easy to forget since your personal settings for these things generally persist even after an install of a new build.) Chris |
From: Richard B. <bo...@bo...> - 2003-02-27 10:32:55
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On Thursday 27 February 2003 09:51, Chris Cannam wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > Hi. In Rosegarden's "Settings -> Configure Rosegarden" and then > > Sequencer-> Recording, mke sure you choose the MIDI input you want > > to record from. RG will only record from the input set on this > > page. > > That feature is only in CVS at the moment, it wasn't in 0.8.5 as > found on Planet CCRMA. 0.8.5 actually has no way in the GUI to > change the MIDI input. However, you _should_ be able to change > the input by connecting a different port to rosegardensequencer > using kaconnect once RG is running. I don't know how far that > actually works in practice. That will definitely work. BTW I'm just about to commit a load more fixes to the recording device selection which should now (hopefully) allow you to select any valid input ALSA port on any ALSA client from the configure dialog. There's also a "select all inputs" option in the pipeline but not quite working yet. But yeah in case this all collapses in a heap during this period of development you can always still use kaconnect. B |
From: Larry T. <lt...@we...> - 2003-03-01 14:47:27
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On Thursday 27 February 2003 04:51, Chris Cannam wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > Hi. In Rosegarden's "Settings -> Configure Rosegarden" and then > > Sequencer-> Recording, mke sure you choose the MIDI input you want to > > record from. RG will only record from the input set on this page. > > That feature is only in CVS at the moment, it wasn't in 0.8.5 as > found on Planet CCRMA. 0.8.5 actually has no way in the GUI to > change the MIDI input. However, you _should_ be able to change > the input by connecting a different port to rosegardensequencer > using kaconnect once RG is running. I don't know how far that > actually works in practice. > Thanks everyone - this is a great help. First, a quick question - you mention "kaconnect" - but don't you really mean "aconnect" or any of its GUI front ends? Or, instead let me ask first: is "kaconnect" just a front end for "aconnect" (it seems to be) or did you mention using it for a reason? Next, the problem. I thought I should first backtrack and make sure that I can record and play simply using my external MIDI port. In other words, make sure that the basic setup is functioning before I try piping MIDI ports together. Unfortunately it's not. Here's what I did: 1. Started rosegarden 4-0.8.5 (from planet CCRMA rpm) 2. Unchecked "show track labels" so I see the port assignments instead 3. Changed the port for track 1 to my external MIDI port 4, Ran kaconnect, and after resizing its window, verified that my external MIDI was connected to the ALSA sequencer (kaconnect seems to have a serious UI issue in that if only one of a pair of connected ports is visible in the scrollable lists, no indication is given that it is connected to anything) 5. Scrathed out a segment on this track. 6. Opened the extra pane on the transport window and hit record 7. Played the theme from Mr. Roger's neighborhood 8. the "IN" field of the transport window always shows "no events" 9. the "OUT" field of the transport window shows a "C#1 120" which I suppose is from the metronome, but it doesn't actually get sent out (the activity lights don't blink) 10. The interrupt count from /proc/interrupts _does_ increase. So I guess the basic question, since I realize that this is new software, is if it is known that MIDI recording either works or does not work? in 4-0.8.5? Because if someone can tell me that this version works for them, then I suppose I have some configuration issue. Otherwise, I've got the latest CVS and am ready to build it :-) Larry |
From: Chris C. <ca...@al...> - 2003-03-01 14:52:55
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On Saturday 01 March 2003 14:51, Larry Troxler wrote: > First, a quick question - you mention "kaconnect" - but don't you > really mean "aconnect" or any of its GUI front ends? Or, instead > let me ask first: is "kaconnect" just a front end for "aconnect" > (it seems to be) or did you mention using it for a reason? Sorry, no, any ALSA connection management GUI would do. I happen to=20 use kaconnect myself, but I shouldn't have been quite so specific. > So I guess the basic question, since I realize that this is new > software, is if it is known that MIDI recording either works or > does not work? in 4-0.8.5? It certainly works for some people. So far I haven't managed to get=20 it working with my keyboard (Evolution MK-225c plugged into USB port)=20 with either 0.8.5 or current CVS, although current CVS is=20 tantalisingly close (it seems to be able to select the right input=20 port but just crashes when I try to select the appropriate output at=20 the same time -- not had time to investigate yet). Chris |
From: Silvan <dmm...@us...> - 2003-03-01 15:36:49
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On Saturday 01 March 2003 09:51 am, Larry Troxler wrote: > Because if someone can tell me that this version works for them, then I > suppose I have some configuration issue. Don't know anything about kaconnect and all that complicated stuff you're= =20 going on about, but recording via external MIDI has been working for me s= ince=20 forever, pretty much. As I understand it, you're trying to do something complicated, but first = you=20 want to make sure the basics are working. I can confirm that. I have a simple setup. My soundcard is an SB PCI 128/ens1371, MIDI hooku= p via=20 an old Gravis joystick port MIDI box. For output, I have: =09ALSA external MIDI port --> Roland SC-33 =09iiwusynth For input, I have: =09ALSA external MIDI port <-- Fatar MIDI 72 (controller) Just to give you an example of what works easily. There have been variou= s=20 problems along the way, but this has always functioned to some degree or=20 other since the first time I looked at Rosegarden-4, probably near a year= =20 ago. --=20 Michael McIntyre USDA zone 6b in SW VA, USA Silvan <dmm...@us...> Linux Druid ----------[ registered Linux user #243621 ]--------- http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/index.html |
From: Chris C. <ca...@al...> - 2003-02-27 09:56:40
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Larry Troxler wrote: > how can I, the > lowly user, accomplish the same thing (creating segments)? Creating segments is actually featured in the current version of the help text in the CVS tree, so despite its many other failings, at least the next release will definitely have documentation for that. Assuming you're actually asking the question rather than just making an observation about the limitations of the help: To create a segment, either select the pencil tool on the toolbar and click-and-drag on the main canvas (with the left button in the normal way), or else click- and-drag with the middle button using the select tool. The select tool is the default when you open a file with something in it already, the pencil tool is the default for new documents. Chris |
From: Larry T. <lt...@we...> - 2003-02-28 03:55:53
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On Thursday 27 February 2003 04:51, Chris Cannam wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > Hi. In Rosegarden's "Settings -> Configure Rosegarden" and then > > Sequencer-> Recording, mke sure you choose the MIDI input you want to > > record from. RG will only record from the input set on this page. > > That feature is only in CVS at the moment, it wasn't in 0.8.5 as > found on Planet CCRMA. 0.8.5 actually has no way in the GUI to > change the MIDI input. However, you _should_ be able to change > the input by connecting a different port to rosegardensequencer > using kaconnect once RG is running. I don't know how far that > actually works in practice. > > > To attach a recorded track to a specific output or soft synth, hold > > down the left mouse button over the track for a couple of seconds. > > You'll get a pop up menu [...] > > Larry's email actually already said: > >> Fine, this worked - the pop-up menu appeared, but what happens > >> then? I click on an instrument, the pop-pup dissapears, and nothing > >> in the track pane has changed. > > The problem is that there's no feedback in the GUI unless you have > the instrument parameter box visible. Go to the Settings menu and > choose Show Instrument Parameter Box; a box will appear to the left > of the track pane that describes which instrument the currently- > selected track is assigned to. Click on another track header to > select another track and thus change which track it describes. > > Alternatively, also in Settings, switch off the "Show Track Labels" > option; then the track headers themselves will show the instrument > name rather than the track name. > Just to confirm, that was the source of confusion for me! Actually it was kind of interesting case, now that I know what the answer is, from a GUI development point of view. Thanks! Larry |
From: Mark K. <mar...@at...> - 2003-03-01 14:57:37
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OK, MIDI recording works for me on _some_ of my MIDI ports, so I kno you have a chance if we do the right stuff... On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 06:51, Larry Troxler wrote: > > First, a quick question - you mention "kaconnect" - but don't you really mean > "aconnect" or any of its GUI front ends? Or, instead let me ask first: is > "kaconnect" just a front end for "aconnect" (it seems to be) or did you > mention using it for a reason? kaconnect is a GUI front-end for aconnect. I like kaconnect since it shows me what connections are current made. > > Next, the problem. I thought I should first backtrack and make sure that I can > record and play simply using my external MIDI port. In other words, make sure > that the basic setup is functioning before I try piping MIDI ports together. > > Unfortunately it's not. > > Here's what I did: > > 1. Started rosegarden 4-0.8.5 (from planet CCRMA rpm) > 2. Unchecked "show track labels" so I see the port assignments instead > 3. Changed the port for track 1 to my external MIDI port > 4, Ran kaconnect, and after resizing its window, verified that my external > MIDI was connected to the ALSA sequencer (kaconnect seems to have a serious > UI issue in that if only one of a pair of connected ports is visible in the > scrollable lists, no indication is given that it is connected to anything) I think it's a bit worse than that. kaconnect will not make a connection between the input and output of a single port. I can make that connection using aconnect, and break the connection with kaconnect, but I cannot make the connection with kaconnect. > 5. Scrathed out a segment on this track. > 6. Opened the extra pane on the transport window and hit record > 7. Played the theme from Mr. Roger's neighborhood Very appropriate this week. > 8. the "IN" field of the transport window always shows "no events" Does the Sequencer MIDI connection show RG is supposed to record from the MIDI input? > 9. the "OUT" field of the transport window shows a "C#1 120" which I suppose > is from the metronome, but it doesn't actually get sent out (the activity > lights don't blink) Weird. (Although I'm still looking for where I set the MIDI Metronome channel and notes used. Anyone?) > 10. The interrupt count from /proc/interrupts _does_ increase. So this says the Alsa layer saw the event, but not necessarily that it went out on the port. > > So I guess the basic question, since I realize that this is new software, is > if it is known that MIDI recording either works or does not work? in 4-0.8.5? > > Because if someone can tell me that this version works for them, then I > suppose I have some configuration issue. Current CVS (well, from a week ago since Rich suggest we stay away for a few day) works for me > > Otherwise, I've got the latest CVS and am ready to build it :-) > > Larry > |
From: Chris C. <ca...@al...> - 2003-03-01 15:02:32
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On Saturday 01 March 2003 14:57, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 06:51, Larry Troxler wrote: > > 7. Played the theme from Mr. Roger's neighborhood > > Very appropriate this week. Pardon? > Weird. (Although I'm still looking for where I set the MIDI > Metronome channel and notes used. Anyone?) In the .rg file (or autosave.rg, if no .rg file loaded). There's no=20 way to do it in the GUI yet I think, Rosegarden just selects a single=20 likely-looking (but presumably in your case wrong) candidate on=20 startup. Chris |
From: Mark K. <mar...@at...> - 2003-03-01 16:31:44
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On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 06:59, Chris Cannam wrote: > > Weird. (Although I'm still looking for where I set the MIDI > > Metronome channel and notes used. Anyone?) > > In the .rg file (or autosave.rg, if no .rg file loaded). There's no > way to do it in the GUI yet I think, Rosegarden just selects a single > likely-looking (but presumably in your case wrong) candidate on > startup. > Right output, but the note choices weren't the best. Thanks for the pointer. |
From: Silvan <dmm...@us...> - 2003-03-01 15:25:45
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On Saturday 01 March 2003 09:59 am, Chris Cannam wrote: > > > 7. Played the theme from Mr. Roger's neighborhood > > > > Very appropriate this week. > > Pardon? Fred Rogers passed away this week. He was rare among us for being one of= the=20 most genuinely virtuous humans ever to walk the face of the earth. There= =20 wasn't a drop of evil in that man anywhere, and in real life he was every= bit=20 the humble, gentle, loving man he appeared to be on his show. He ran a k= ids'=20 show on PBS for several decades called "Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood." He taught me how to tie my shoes, and entertained me for hours on end wit= h his=20 puppets and "make believe" when I was a child. His death is indeed a great loss. --=20 Michael McIntyre USDA zone 6b in SW VA, USA Silvan <dmm...@us...> Linux Druid ----------[ registered Linux user #243621 ]--------- http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/index.html |
From: Mark K. <mar...@at...> - 2003-03-01 16:30:44
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On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 07:25, Silvan wrote: > On Saturday 01 March 2003 09:59 am, Chris Cannam wrote: > > > > > 7. Played the theme from Mr. Roger's neighborhood > > > > > > Very appropriate this week. > > > > Pardon? > > Fred Rogers passed away this week. He was rare among us for being one of the > most genuinely virtuous humans ever to walk the face of the earth. There > wasn't a drop of evil in that man anywhere, and in real life he was every bit > the humble, gentle, loving man he appeared to be on his show. He ran a kids' > show on PBS for several decades called "Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood." > > He taught me how to tie my shoes, and entertained me for hours on end with his > puppets and "make believe" when I was a child. > > His death is indeed a great loss. > Wonderful testament Michael. I was a bit old for him, but my kid loved him for years. For those not in the US, he was the host a public TV that ran for nearly 40 years, I believe. |
From: Larry T. <lt...@we...> - 2003-03-01 20:22:00
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On Saturday 01 March 2003 10:25, Silvan wrote: > On Saturday 01 March 2003 09:59 am, Chris Cannam wrote: > > > > 7. Played the theme from Mr. Roger's neighborhood > > > > > > Very appropriate this week. > > > > Pardon? > > Fred Rogers passed away this week. He was rare among us for being one of > the most genuinely virtuous humans ever to walk the face of the earth. > There wasn't a drop of evil in that man anywhere, and in real life he was > every bit the humble, gentle, loving man he appeared to be on his show. He > ran a kids' show on PBS for several decades called "Mr. Rogers' > Neighborhood." > > He taught me how to tie my shoes, and entertained me for hours on end with > his puppets and "make believe" when I was a child. > > His death is indeed a great loss. What has been a very pleasant surprise for me, is the number of outpourings like yours around the net and from people I know in person. In these turbulent times, it restores my faith in humanity to know that the words "good" and "virtuous" still have meaning for many people. Larry |
From: Larry T. <lt...@we...> - 2003-03-01 20:49:41
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On Saturday 01 March 2003 09:57, Mark Knecht wrote: > OK, MIDI recording works for me on _some_ of my MIDI ports, so I kno you > have a chance if we do the right stuff... > > On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 06:51, Larry Troxler wrote: > > First, a quick question - you mention "kaconnect" - but don't you really > > mean "aconnect" or any of its GUI front ends? Or, instead let me ask > > first: is "kaconnect" just a front end for "aconnect" (it seems to be) or > > did you mention using it for a reason? > > kaconnect is a GUI front-end for aconnect. I like kaconnect since it > shows me what connections are current made. > > > Next, the problem. I thought I should first backtrack and make sure that > > I can record and play simply using my external MIDI port. In other words, > > make sure that the basic setup is functioning before I try piping MIDI > > ports together. > > > > Unfortunately it's not. > > > > Here's what I did: > > > > 1. Started rosegarden 4-0.8.5 (from planet CCRMA rpm) > > 2. Unchecked "show track labels" so I see the port assignments instead > > 3. Changed the port for track 1 to my external MIDI port > > 4, Ran kaconnect, and after resizing its window, verified that my > > external MIDI was connected to the ALSA sequencer (kaconnect seems to > > have a serious UI issue in that if only one of a pair of connected ports > > is visible in the scrollable lists, no indication is given that it is > > connected to anything) > > I think it's a bit worse than that. kaconnect will not make a connection > between the input and output of a single port. I can make that > connection using aconnect, and break the connection with kaconnect, but > I cannot make the connection with kaconnect. > > > 5. Scrathed out a segment on this track. > > 6. Opened the extra pane on the transport window and hit record > > 7. Played the theme from Mr. Roger's neighborhood > > Very appropriate this week. > > > 8. the "IN" field of the transport window always shows "no events" > > Does the Sequencer MIDI connection show RG is supposed to record from > the MIDI input? > > > 9. the "OUT" field of the transport window shows a "C#1 120" which I > > suppose is from the metronome, but it doesn't actually get sent out (the > > activity lights don't blink) > > Weird. (Although I'm still looking for where I set the MIDI Metronome > channel and notes used. Anyone?) > > > 10. The interrupt count from /proc/interrupts _does_ increase. > > So this says the Alsa layer saw the event, but not necessarily that it > went out on the port. > Not sure about that. I think this may be a red herring - I don't know if these are audio interrupts, MIDI input interrupts, MIDI output interrupts, or what. Again, other ALSA applications work. So I think this means that there is nothing wrong at the ALSA or hardware layer, right? > > So I guess the basic question, since I realize that this is new software, > > is if it is known that MIDI recording either works or does not work? in > > 4-0.8.5? > > > > Because if someone can tell me that this version works for them, then I > > suppose I have some configuration issue. > > Current CVS (well, from a week ago since Rich suggest we stay away for a > few day) works for me > Could you tell me which day's build would be safe to get from CVS? (I assume there must be a way to do that with CVS) As I said, I retrieved one yesterday, but from what you are saying I shouldn't bother with it. Thanks! Larry |
From: Mark K. <mar...@at...> - 2003-03-01 21:31:56
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On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 12:49, Larry Troxler wrote: > > > > kaconnect is a GUI front-end for aconnect. I like kaconnect since it > > shows me what connections are current made. > > > > > Next, the problem. I thought I should first backtrack and make sure that > > > I can record and play simply using my external MIDI port. In other words, > > > make sure that the basic setup is functioning before I try piping MIDI > > > ports together. > > > > > > Unfortunately it's not. Larry, Let's back up a little. I'm a bit lost as to what's working and what isn't. In Alsa, using aconnect, you can route MIDI through your PC without using Rosegarden at all: 1) aconnect -li will list inputs. I presume that it will tell you something like a name followed by 64:0 or 72:0, and if you are multiport, you might see 64:32 and 72:1 like I do. (Don't ask!) ;-) 2) aconnect -lo will list outputs 3) aconnect 64:0 64:0 will hook your first input to your first output. Make sure this is the right pair. Controller and synth hooked up correctly? Can you get any sound? Mark |
From: Larry T. <lt...@we...> - 2003-03-01 23:39:10
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On Saturday 01 March 2003 16:31, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 12:49, Larry Troxler wrote: > > > kaconnect is a GUI front-end for aconnect. I like kaconnect since it > > > shows me what connections are current made. > > > > > > > Next, the problem. I thought I should first backtrack and make sure > > > > that I can record and play simply using my external MIDI port. In > > > > other words, make sure that the basic setup is functioning before I > > > > try piping MIDI ports together. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately it's not. > > Larry, > Let's back up a little. I'm a bit lost as to what's working and what > isn't. > > In Alsa, using aconnect, you can route MIDI through your PC without > using Rosegarden at all: > > 1) aconnect -li > > will list inputs. I presume that it will tell you something like a name > followed by 64:0 or 72:0, and if you are multiport, you might see 64:32 > and 72:1 like I do. (Don't ask!) ;-) > > 2) aconnect -lo will list outputs > > 3) aconnect 64:0 64:0 will hook your first input to your first output. > Make sure this is the right pair. Controller and synth hooked up > correctly? > > Can you get any sound? > > Mark Mark, I thank you and the others on this list for all your help. I tried the aconnect 64:0 64:0 experiment and that works fine. I kind of expected it too, since as I say, other MIDI applications are working. I didn't really suspect a problem at the ALSA level. But that test is a good idea - there are times when I wasn't sure if my cabling, etc, were ok, and this is a good easy way to check for that. I'll have to file that away in my debugging arsenal. So I really think now that either my version of Rosegarden isn't working correctly, or (and I would not be surprised at all if this is the case) I'm stupidly missing some aspect of the Rosegarden GUI so I think I'm recording but I'm actually not. Larry |
From: Mark K. <mar...@at...> - 2003-03-01 23:43:08
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On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 15:29, Larry Troxler wrote: > Mark, I thank you and the others on this list for all your help. > You're welcome. > I tried the aconnect 64:0 64:0 experiment and that works fine. I kind of > expected it too, since as I say, other MIDI applications are working. I > didn't really suspect a problem at the ALSA level. OK, as I said, I think I'm jut not clear about what you've done so far. If I can catch up (without frustrating you!) then maybe I can help. > > But that test is a good idea - there are times when I wasn't sure if my > cabling, etc, were ok, and this is a good easy way to check for that. I'll > have to file that away in my debugging arsenal. > > So I really think now that either my version of Rosegarden isn't working > correctly, or (and I would not be surprised at all if this is the case) I'm > stupidly missing some aspect of the Rosegarden GUI so I think I'm recording > but I'm actually not. So your version of RG is from the Planet? Why not try building from CVS? It's not _too_ difficult. ;-) Really though, I run on the Planet flow, but I build RG all the time. I can send you the instructions if you want to do that. |
From: Larry T. <lt...@we...> - 2003-03-02 00:21:58
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On Saturday 01 March 2003 18:42, Mark Knecht wrote: > > So your version of RG is from the Planet? Why not try building from CVS? > It's not _too_ difficult. ;-) Really though, I run on the Planet flow, > but I build RG all the time. I can send you the instructions if you want > to do that. Hi Mark and thanks again! I think you misunderstood me - I am all ready to build from the CVS - it's just that someone said to stay away from it the last few dayrs. I'd just like to know if I should get the CVS snapshot right now, or if I should backtrack a couple of days. Larry |
From: Mark K. <mar...@at...> - 2003-03-02 00:28:31
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Larry, OK, so I'm amazingly dense, but what's the harm trying to build from whatever is current? It will work or it won't. Are you on a reasonably modern machine? If so, it will be built in 30 minutes. If it doesn't work, then I'll dig up the comand for getting and older version. So, my (amazingly dense guy) input is BUILD, BUILD, BUILD! ;-) And have fun! Mark On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 16:25, Larry Troxler wrote: > On Saturday 01 March 2003 18:42, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > So your version of RG is from the Planet? Why not try building from CVS? > > It's not _too_ difficult. ;-) Really though, I run on the Planet flow, > > but I build RG all the time. I can send you the instructions if you want > > to do that. > > Hi Mark and thanks again! I think you misunderstood me - I am all ready to > build from the CVS - it's just that someone said to stay away from it the > last few dayrs. > > I'd just like to know if I should get the CVS snapshot right now, or if I > should backtrack a couple of days. > > Larry > |
From: Larry T. <lt...@we...> - 2003-03-02 03:21:26
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On Saturday 01 March 2003 19:28, Mark Knecht wrote: > Larry, > OK, so I'm amazingly dense, but what's the harm trying to build from > whatever is current? It will work or it won't. Are you on a reasonably > modern machine? If so, it will be built in 30 minutes. If it doesn't > work, then I'll dig up the comand for getting and older version. > > So, my (amazingly dense guy) input is BUILD, BUILD, BUILD! ;-) > > And have fun! > > Mark > Hey that's funny! Thanks for putting everything in perspective for me - I'm spending a day worrying about wich build from CVS I should try, when like you say, it takes 30 minutes to find out. I'm about to burn some rubber with gcc ... Regards Larry |
From: Larry T. <lt...@we...> - 2003-03-02 03:40:05
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On Saturday 01 March 2003 22:25, Larry Troxler wrote: > On Saturday 01 March 2003 19:28, Mark Knecht wrote: > > So, my (amazingly dense guy) input is BUILD, BUILD, BUILD! ;-) > > Lol, I first read this as "So, my amazingly dense guy, ..." That would have been more appropriate - you're too self-deprecating :-) Larry |
From: Mark K. <mar...@at...> - 2003-03-02 04:12:33
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On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 19:38, Larry Troxler wrote: > On Saturday 01 March 2003 22:25, Larry Troxler wrote: > > On Saturday 01 March 2003 19:28, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > So, my (amazingly dense guy) input is BUILD, BUILD, BUILD! ;-) > > > > > Lol, I first read this as "So, my amazingly dense guy, ..." > That would have been more appropriate - you're too self-deprecating :-) > > Larry > Larry, All I can say is 'That's amazingly dense!'. ;-) No, I spent two hours this afternoon trying to get Ardour to duplicate regions easily. Everything I did was very hard. When someone pointed there was a 'duplicate' item in the menu for regions, then I knew I was dense! I hope your build works. If you have trouble let me know. Cheers, Mark |
From: Silvan <dmm...@us...> - 2003-03-02 08:31:22
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On Saturday 01 March 2003 11:12 pm, Mark Knecht wrote: > duplicate regions easily. Everything I did was very hard. When someone > pointed there was a 'duplicate' item in the menu for regions, then I > knew I was dense! It's not density so much as forcing yourself to let go of your stupid ide= a... =20 :) Somehow you get the idea that the square peg is supposed to fit into the = round=20 hole, so you push, and shove, and eventually get out your pocket knife to= =20 *whittle* the thing because it's going to fit! It *has* to fit! Then about the time you're standing there with your finger bleeding,=20 surrounded by wood shavings, patting yourself on the back that it was a p= ain,=20 but you've really accomplished something to have finally managed to wrang= le=20 that into working, you look off to the side and see the round peg that wa= s=20 there all along; or worse, a whole carton of round pegs. DOH! It happens to all of us. --=20 Michael McIntyre USDA zone 6b in SW VA, USA Silvan <dmm...@us...> Linux Druid ----------[ registered Linux user #243621 ]--------- http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/index.html |