From: Michael S. <mi...@es...> - 2005-12-27 17:01:15
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I've never used Rosegarden until now. I saw it recently on a list of Windows software and their Linux equivalents. I wanted an alternative to CakeWalk. Anyway, I have a Gentoo 2005.1 Linux system and I emerged Rosegarden with the following flags: camille ~ # emerge -pv rosegarden These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] media-sound/rosegarden-4.1.0-r1 +arts +debug +jack -kdeenablefinal -xinerama 0 kB When I try to start up the application it shows me the splash screen followed by an error message box that says "The Rosegarden sequencer could not be started, so sound and recording will be unavailable for this session. For assistance with correct audio and MIDI configuration go to http://rosegardenmusic.com" The error message didn't help me much. It didn't tell me why the sequencer failed to start, and the only help the website gave me was the information how to subscribe to this mailing list. Can anyone tell me a way to fix this error or else to further diagnose it? I use ALSA as my primary sound server and it's working fine ATM. I don't know if I can play MIDI files because I can't seem to find a mozilla plugin that provides support for them. When I ordered this computer custom built the tech assurred me that the sound card had hardware MIDI support (I asked for it specifically), but I'm not so sure it actually does. How do I check for that (if it's important)? -Michael Sullivan- |
From: Pedro Lopez-C. <ped...@gm...> - 2005-12-27 17:19:51
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On 12/27/05, Michael Sullivan <mi...@es...> wrote: > When I try to start up the application it shows me the splash screen > followed by an error message box that says > > "The Rosegarden sequencer could not be started, so sound and recording > will be unavailable for this session. [...] > Can anyone tell me a way to fix this error or else to further diagnose it= ? Please, run the ALSA debugging script, and paste here the results. http://alsa.opensrc.org/aadebug (http://alsa.opensrc.org/aadebug.txt) Regards, Pedro |
From: Michael S. <mi...@es...> - 2005-12-27 19:09:03
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On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 18:19 +0100, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas wrote: > On 12/27/05, Michael Sullivan <mi...@es...> wrote: > > When I try to start up the application it shows me the splash screen > > followed by an error message box that says > > > > "The Rosegarden sequencer could not be started, so sound and recording > > will be unavailable for this session. > [...] > > Can anyone tell me a way to fix this error or else to further diagnose it? > > Please, run the ALSA debugging script, and paste here the results. > http://alsa.opensrc.org/aadebug > (http://alsa.opensrc.org/aadebug.txt) > > Regards, > Pedro > Kernel ---------------------------------------------------- Linux camille 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 #1 SMP Sat Dec 17 00:10:21 CST 2005 i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux Loaded Modules -------------------------------------------- snd_pcm_oss 37184 0 snd_mixer_oss 12560 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_seq_oss 23776 0 snd_seq_midi_event 3312 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq 33808 5 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq_device 4732 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq snd_hda_intel 11712 1 snd_hda_codec 60560 1 snd_hda_intel snd_pcm 52260 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec snd_timer 15316 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd 31780 12 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer snd_page_alloc 6296 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm Proc Config ----------------------------------------------- CONFIG_SOUND=y # CONFIG_SND is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME is not set Modprobe Conf --------------------------------------------- alias char-major-14-* soundcore alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel options snd-hda-intel model=3stack position_fix=2 Proc Asound ----------------------------------------------- Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10rc3. Compiled on Dec 18 2005 for kernel 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 (SMP). 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDA Intel at 0xffac0000 irq 17 16: [0- 0]: digital audio playback 24: [0- 0]: digital audio capture 0: [0- 0]: ctl 1: : sequencer 33: : timer cat: /proc/asound/hwdep: No such file or directory 00-00: ALC880 Analog : ALC880 Analog : playback 1 : capture 2 Client info cur clients : 3 peak clients : 3 max clients : 192 Client 0 : "System" [Kernel] Port 0 : "Timer" (Rwe-) Port 1 : "Announce" (R-e-) Connecting To: 63:0 Client 63 : "OSS sequencer" [Kernel] Port 0 : "Receiver" (-we-) Connected From: 0:1 Client 128 : "TiMidity" [User] Port 0 : "TiMidity port 0" (-We-) Port 1 : "TiMidity port 1" (-We-) Port 2 : "TiMidity port 2" (-We-) Port 3 : "TiMidity port 3" (-We-) Output pool : Pool size : 500 Cells in use : 0 Peak cells in use : 0 Alloc success : 0 Alloc failures : 0 Input pool : Pool size : 1000 Cells in use : 0 Peak cells in use : 0 Alloc success : 0 Alloc failures : 0 Dev Snd --------------------------------------------------- controlC0 pcmC0D0c pcmC0D0p seq timer CPU ------------------------------------------------------- model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz cpu MHz : 2667.338 RAM ------------------------------------------------------- MemTotal: 507040 kB SwapTotal: 995988 kB Hardware -------------------------------------------------- 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL Processor to I/O Controller 05:00.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) Also, I emerged timidity and netscape-plugger and now I can play .mid files in mozilla... |
From: Pedro Lopez-C. <ped...@gm...> - 2005-12-27 21:22:56
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On Tuesday 27 December 2005 20:09, Michael Sullivan wrote: > > > "The Rosegarden sequencer could not be started, so sound and recording > > > will be unavailable for this session. > Loaded Modules -------------------------------------------- > snd_pcm_oss 37184 0 > snd_mixer_oss 12560 1 snd_pcm_oss > snd_seq_oss 23776 0 > snd_seq_midi_event 3312 1 snd_seq_oss > snd_seq 33808 5 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event > snd_seq_device 4732 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq > snd_hda_intel 11712 1 > snd_hda_codec 60560 1 snd_hda_intel > snd_pcm 52260 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec > snd_timer 15316 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm > snd 31780 12 > snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_hda_intel, >snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer snd_page_alloc 6296 2 > snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm There is a module missing here: "snd-seq-midi". It should be loaded on demand, but you can force it to be loaded, using the following command: # modprobe snd-seq-midi > Proc Asound ----------------------------------------------- > 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel > HDA Intel at 0xffac0000 irq 17 > 00-00: ALC880 Analog : ALC880 Analog : playback 1 : capture 2 ... > Client 128 : "TiMidity" [User] ... > Hardware -------------------------------------------------- > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL Processor > to I/O Controller > 05:00.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 > (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) > > Also, I emerged timidity and netscape-plugger and now I can play .mid > files in mozilla... You can use also aplaymidi (from alsa-utils) and pmidi to play midi files from the command line, using the ALSA sequencer. I'm not sure what do you mean with "hardware MIDI support", but I guess that you would like to have an internal hardware MIDI synthesizer. I think that you don't have one. You have an "Intel High Definition" on-board AD/DA sound system, with a Realtek ALC880 chip. Perhaps you could have also a game port, or serial port which supports hardware MIDI ports. This is also hardware MIDI support, but it is only needed if you want to attach external MIDI gear to your PC, as a MIDI keyboard, organ, expander, synth, controllers, ... You have MPEG hardware support, though! Anyway, internal hardware MIDI synths for PCs are very uncommon these days, and I would advice you to don't worry about it. You can use excellent soft synths with Linux, as Timidity (+freepats as sound banks) or even better: fluidSynth and the GUI front-end QSynth, using a soundfont like FluidR3 or pc51f.sf2, both freely available at http://www.hammersound.net/ Those are wave-table synths, but there are also FM and mixed ones, like ZynAddSubFX. Give them a try and enjoy. Regards, Pedro |
From: Michael S. <mi...@es...> - 2005-12-27 22:25:42
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On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 22:22 +0100, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas wrote: > On Tuesday 27 December 2005 20:09, Michael Sullivan wrote: > > > > "The Rosegarden sequencer could not be started, so sound and recording > > > > will be unavailable for this session. > > > Loaded Modules -------------------------------------------- > > snd_pcm_oss 37184 0 > > snd_mixer_oss 12560 1 snd_pcm_oss > > snd_seq_oss 23776 0 > > snd_seq_midi_event 3312 1 snd_seq_oss > > snd_seq 33808 5 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event > > snd_seq_device 4732 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq > > snd_hda_intel 11712 1 > > snd_hda_codec 60560 1 snd_hda_intel > > snd_pcm 52260 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec > > snd_timer 15316 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm > > snd 31780 12 > > snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_hda_intel, > >snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer snd_page_alloc 6296 2 > > snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm > > There is a module missing here: "snd-seq-midi". It should be loaded on demand, > but you can force it to be loaded, using the following command: > > # modprobe snd-seq-midi > > > Proc Asound ----------------------------------------------- > > 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel > > HDA Intel at 0xffac0000 irq 17 > > 00-00: ALC880 Analog : ALC880 Analog : playback 1 : capture 2 > ... > > Client 128 : "TiMidity" [User] > ... > > Hardware -------------------------------------------------- > > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL Processor > > to I/O Controller > > 05:00.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 > > (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) > > > > Also, I emerged timidity and netscape-plugger and now I can play .mid > > files in mozilla... > > You can use also aplaymidi (from alsa-utils) and pmidi to play midi files > from the command line, using the ALSA sequencer. > > I'm not sure what do you mean with "hardware MIDI support", but I guess that > you would like to have an internal hardware MIDI synthesizer. I think that > you don't have one. You have an "Intel High Definition" on-board AD/DA sound > system, with a Realtek ALC880 chip. Perhaps you could have also a game port, > or serial port which supports hardware MIDI ports. This is also hardware MIDI > support, but it is only needed if you want to attach external MIDI gear to > your PC, as a MIDI keyboard, organ, expander, synth, controllers, ... > > You have MPEG hardware support, though! > > Anyway, internal hardware MIDI synths for PCs are very uncommon these days, > and I would advice you to don't worry about it. You can use excellent soft > synths with Linux, as Timidity (+freepats as sound banks) or even better: > fluidSynth and the GUI front-end QSynth, using a soundfont like FluidR3 or > pc51f.sf2, both freely available at http://www.hammersound.net/ > Those are wave-table synths, but there are also FM and mixed ones, like > ZynAddSubFX. Give them a try and enjoy. > > Regards, > Pedro I tried your modprobe line. I don't have snd-seq-midi: camille ~ # modprobe snd-seq-midi FATAL: Module snd_seq_midi not found. If it matters, I use alsa-driver. I couldn't get my sound card to work with ALSA support compiled into the kernel... |
From: tim h. <te...@gl...> - 2006-01-09 16:14:46
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On Tuesday 27 December 2005 21:22, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas was like: > There is a module missing here: "snd-seq-midi". It should be loaded on > demand, but you can force it to be loaded, using the following command: > > # modprobe snd-seq-midi You can put snd-seq-midi in /etc/modules on a line on its own. This should enable hardware MIDI support at boot time. -- cheers, tim hall http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim |
From: Pedro Lopez-C. <ped...@gm...> - 2005-12-28 06:59:26
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On Tuesday 27 December 2005 23:26, Michael Sullivan wrote: > I tried your modprobe line. I don't have snd-seq-midi: > > camille ~ # modprobe snd-seq-midi > FATAL: Module snd_seq_midi not found. Then you have a problem with your ALSA kernel modules. You will need to rebuild them and/or your kernel. The listing of installed modules can be obtained with this command: # modprobe -l|grep snd > If it matters, I use alsa-driver. I couldn't get my sound card to work > with ALSA support compiled into the kernel... I don't use Gentoo, so I can't advice you about issues with packages on this distro, but I noticed this: Kernel ---------------------------------------------------- Linux camille 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 #1 SMP Sat Dec 17 00:10:21 CST 2005 i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux The "SMP" part means "Symmetric multiprocessing". This kernel is compiled for a multiprocessor computer architecture where two or more identical processors are connected to a single shared main memory. This setting is OK if you have a main board with several processors on it. If not, then please review your kernel configuration. Regards, Pedro |
From: Michael S. <mi...@es...> - 2005-12-28 15:56:25
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On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 07:59 +0100, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas wrote: > On Tuesday 27 December 2005 23:26, Michael Sullivan wrote: > > I tried your modprobe line. I don't have snd-seq-midi: > > > > camille ~ # modprobe snd-seq-midi > > FATAL: Module snd_seq_midi not found. > > Then you have a problem with your ALSA kernel modules. You will need to > rebuild them and/or your kernel. The listing of installed modules can be > obtained with this command: > > # modprobe -l|grep snd > > > If it matters, I use alsa-driver. I couldn't get my sound card to work > > with ALSA support compiled into the kernel... > > I don't use Gentoo, so I can't advice you about issues with packages on this > distro, but I noticed this: > > Kernel ---------------------------------------------------- > Linux camille 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 #1 SMP Sat Dec 17 00:10:21 CST 2005 i686 > Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux > > The "SMP" part means "Symmetric multiprocessing". This kernel is compiled for > a multiprocessor computer architecture where two or more identical processors > are connected to a single shared main memory. This setting is OK if you have > a main board with several processors on it. If not, then please review your > kernel configuration. > > > Regards, > Pedro Can this not be accomplished with alsa-driver? I could not get my sound card to work when I tried compiling ALSA support into the kernel - that's why I use alsa-driver... |
From: D. M. 'S. M. <ros...@gm...> - 2005-12-28 16:52:28
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On Wednesday 28 December 2005 10:56 am, Michael Sullivan wrote: > Can this not be accomplished with alsa-driver? I could not get my sound > card to work when I tried compiling ALSA support into the kernel - > that's why I use alsa-driver... Your underlying problem is no snd-seq-midi module. That's an absolute show-stopper, and it indicates that your ALSA installation isfundamentally broken. I don't know what "alsa-driver" is at all. The only thing I can tell you is that you have to fix your snd-seq-midi module by whatever means necessary. You might need to turn to Gentoo and/or ALSA or whoever maintains this "alsa-driver" thing for additional assistance. At least you know exactly what you need help with. -- D. Michael 'Silvan' McIntyre ---- Silvan <dmm...@us...> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 Author of Rosegarden Companion http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
From: Chris C. <ca...@al...> - 2005-12-28 20:15:58
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On Wednesday 28 Dec 2005 16:52, D. Michael 'Silvan' McIntyre wrote: > I don't know what "alsa-driver" is at all. I assume it means the alsa-driver tar file from alsa-project.org, compiled against kernel headers and installed. i.e. the kernel modules for ALSA, packaged to be built separately from the kernel source tree. There shouldn't be any problem with that -- it's often the better way to install ALSA. Chris |
From: Pedro Lopez-C. <ped...@gm...> - 2005-12-28 18:50:05
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On Wednesday 28 December 2005 16:56, Michael Sullivan wrote: > Can this not be accomplished with alsa-driver? I could not get my sound > card to work when I tried compiling ALSA support into the kernel - > that's why I use alsa-driver... As this issue has reached an off-topic level on Rosegarden-users lists, I'm moving the discussion off list. Regards, Pedro |