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From: Richard B. <bo...@bo...> - 2003-10-02 06:32:46
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On Wednesday 01 October 2003 10:23 pm, Patrick O'Melia wrote: > Hi, > > I can't seem to compile in Mandrake 9.2rc2. Could be kde related, > just wondering if anyone has ideas too. Thanks. > > Guillaume thinks this is fixed in cvs. > > Results below: > > ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/lib/qt3 --prefix=/usr/lib/kde3 > --with-alsa=yes > > yields successful configure then Make chokes and gives: > > Studio.C:571: instantiated from here > /usr/include/c++/3.3.1/bits/stl_iterator.h:598: error: invalid > conversion from `Rosegarden::Device* const* const' to > `Rosegarden::Device**' make[2]: *** [Studio.lo] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/pomelia/rosegarden-4-0.9.1/base' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/pomelia/rosegarden-4-0.9.1' > make: *** [all] Error 2 Um, it might well be fixed in CVS as the line numbers don't match - your build output appears to be from RG4-0.9.1 though. R |
From: Patrick O'M. <po...@vi...> - 2003-10-01 21:22:32
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Hi, I can't seem to compile in Mandrake 9.2rc2. Could be kde related, just wondering if anyone has ideas too. Thanks. Guillaume thinks this is fixed in cvs. Results below: ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/lib/qt3 --prefix=/usr/lib/kde3 --with-alsa=yes yields successful configure then Make chokes and gives: Studio.C:571: instantiated from here /usr/include/c++/3.3.1/bits/stl_iterator.h:598: error: invalid conversion from `Rosegarden::Device* const* const' to `Rosegarden::Device**' make[2]: *** [Studio.lo] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/pomelia/rosegarden-4-0.9.1/base' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/pomelia/rosegarden-4-0.9.1' make: *** [all] Error 2 |
From: Larry T. <lt...@we...> - 2003-10-01 00:41:26
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Hi again, I'm kind of in a vague situation here because I'm trying to interface PD to Rosegarden with MIDI sync and I'm sure that both ends have bugs of one kind or another, which is making it a little difficult. But let me ask this: is it just by some stray chance possible, that Rosegarden sends MIDI clocks even though it's stopped (not in playback or record mode)? Because I swear, after I fixed the relevant bugs in PD to display clock messages, I get a stream of them as soon as I start Rosegarden (NOT when I start playback or record in Rosegarden - it starts as soon as I open the app). Hey man, I don't know if it's really rg's fault, but it's a mighty damn coincidence that suddenly 0xf8's start flowing once rg is started, don't you think?. Any takers on this one? I should add that I'm not hooked up with the latest, in case something has been changed since then. This is a july 2003 something CVS. Larry |
From: Guillaume L. <gla...@te...> - 2003-09-29 21:31:23
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On Monday 29 September 2003 21:22, Chris Cannam wrote: > > Except that I thought audio recording probably wouldn't? Oh right. Sorry. :-) -- Guillaume. http://www.telegraph-road.org |
From: Chris C. <ca...@al...> - 2003-09-29 19:35:29
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On Monday 29 Sep 2003 4:36 pm, Guillaume Laurent wrote: > On Monday 29 September 2003 15:14, Allan Metts wrote: > > Ahhh, click and *hold*... I knew a menu such as this one had to > > be available somehow. I was left-clicking, right-clicking, > > double-clicking, and center-clicking everything I could find. > > right-clicking should work too if you have a recent enough CVS > tree. Except that I thought audio recording probably wouldn't? Chris |
From: Guillaume L. <gla...@te...> - 2003-09-29 19:21:18
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On Monday 29 September 2003 15:14, Allan Metts wrote: > > Ahhh, click and *hold*... I knew a menu such as this one had to be > available somehow. I was left-clicking, right-clicking, double-clicking, > and center-clicking everything I could find. right-clicking should work too if you have a recent enough CVS tree. -- Guillaume http://www.telegraph-road.org |
From: Allan M. <am...@mi...> - 2003-09-29 16:27:44
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At 05:37 AM 9/29/2003, Chris Cannam wrote: >On Monday 29 Sep 2003 1:46 am, Allan Metts wrote: > > --*-- I can't figure out how to set up a track to record from audio > > instead of MIDI. > >It should be simply a question of using the instrument menu (the >popdown menu on the track label -- click and hold with the left mouse >button over the track label) to select an Audio instrument instead of >a MIDI one, and then recording on that track. Ahhh, click and *hold*... I knew a menu such as this one had to be available somehow. I was left-clicking, right-clicking, double-clicking, and center-clicking everything I could find. Sorry about that -- I'm sure that was probably in the docs (I'm writing a feature article for Electronic Musician magazine -- and trying to absorb the entire world of Linux Audio in just a few short weeks....). Thanks! A----- |
From: Chris C. <ca...@al...> - 2003-09-29 11:26:59
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On Monday 29 Sep 2003 1:46 am, Allan Metts wrote: > --*-- I can't figure out how to set up a track to record from audio > instead of MIDI. It should be simply a question of using the instrument menu (the=20 popdown menu on the track label -- click and hold with the left mouse=20 button over the track label) to select an Audio instrument instead of=20 a MIDI one, and then recording on that track. > --*-- Oddly enough, I was able to Remap all of my tracks to Jack > Audio -- and I saw the Instrument Settings pane change from > MIDI-based ones to audio. Remap Instruments is a quick way of doing the operation I described=20 above for a whole set of tracks at once. Of course, if you used it=20 to switch all your tracks to audio instruments, you should have then=20 been able to record audio on them (just not MIDI as well). As Richard pointed out, this should have worked in 0.9.1 but not in=20 current CVS -- you don't say what version you're using. Chris |
From: Richard B. <bo...@bo...> - 2003-09-29 09:44:10
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On Monday 29 September 2003 2:46 am, Allan Metts wrote: > Hi all, > > Is Audio Recording a working feature? It will be in 0.9.1 and earier versions - in latest CVS it's broken due to big structural changes. R |
From: Allan M. <am...@mi...> - 2003-09-29 06:50:13
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Hi all, Is Audio Recording a working feature? I see indications on Source Forge that it is, but I seem to be missing something... --*-- Jack is up and running --*-- I can't figure out how to set up a track to record from audio instead of MIDI. Seems like I need the equivalent of "Manage MIDI Devices" -- except for audio. I poked in this dialog a bit, but it wouldn't allow me to set up a device that connects to Jack. --*-- Oddly enough, I was able to Remap all of my tracks to Jack Audio -- and I saw the Instrument Settings pane change from MIDI-based ones to audio. But I couldn't manage to set anything up that easily allowed a set of MIDI-based tracks alongside a set of audio ones. Can someone straighten me out? Thanks in advance, Allan |
From: Guillaume L. <gla...@te...> - 2003-09-27 15:30:32
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(please keep this on the mailing-list) On Saturday 27 September 2003 16:28, Florian Fernandez wrote: > Le Vendredi 26 Septembre 2003 17:34, Guillaume Laurent a =E9crit : > > On Friday 26 September 2003 17:31, Florian Fernandez wrote: > > > make[2]: *** Pas de r=E8gle pour fabriquer la cible =AB > > > AudioFileManager.moc.cpp =BB, n=E9cessaire pour =AB > > > libRosegardenSound_la.all_cpp.cpp =BB. Arr=EAt. > > > > Seems that this moc file wasn't generated. Are you sure there wasn't = any > > problems during the 'make -f Makefile.cvs' ? > > Hi, > > I deleted my cvs version of rosegarden and I retrieved again today. > > I tried without --enable-final configure option and now that works but = I > got this: > > [root@Weid /usr/src/audio]# ./configure --disable-debug > --disable-dependency- tracking --prefix=3D/home/system/kde-3.1.3 > > [...] > ntrolBlock.lo `test -f 'ControlBlock.cpp' || echo './'`ControlBlock.cpp > In file included from ControlBlock.cpp:24: > ../gui/rosedebug.h: In function `kdbgstream& operator<<(kdbgstream&, co= nst > Rosegarden::RealTime&)': > ../gui/rosedebug.h:69: error: `s' undeclared (first use this function) > ../gui/rosedebug.h:69: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported o= nly > once > for each function it appears in.) > make[2]: *** [ControlBlock.lo] Erreur 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/audio/rosegarden/sound' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/audio/rosegarden' > make: *** [all] Erreur 2 Amazing, you actually found a very old compile bug :-). We had never seen= it=20 before because we never compile with --disable-debug. I've fixed the bug = in=20 cvs, anon-cvs should reflect it in 24h or so. In the meantime, you can ei= ther=20 compile without --disable-debug, or fix the bug on your copy of rosedebug= .h,=20 it's just a matter of adding an 's' in the method's prototype : Before : operator<<(kdbgstream &, const Rosegarden::RealTime&) { return s; } After : operator<<(kdbgstream &s, const Rosegarden::RealTime&) { return s; } --=20 Guillaume. http://www.telegraph-road.org |
From: pbennison <pbe...@ip...> - 2003-09-26 23:56:06
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Hi Chris I read recently in one of the docs attached to rg that repeats, first and second time bars, and related signs had yet to be worked on. Thought some comments on how these may "look" from a user perspective might be helpful. 1. These could all be applied to a score through a tool bar similar to the Marks/Clefs/Accidentals toolbars. 2. Because the signs affect all staves at the same point in the score, they should be automatically applied on a "select all staves" basis. This will accommodate scores for orchestral arrangements as well as single stave "solo" parts. 3. Signs which should be included on the tool bar are: double bar repeat bar (both left and right facing) First time bar Second time bar For continuation Del segno Coda (there may be one or two others I have omitted) 4. The first time bar will need to be of indefinite length - often it will cover 2 to 8 bars, but I have played pieces where it has covered up to 20 bars. 5. The ability to vary the First time bar to accommodate sections which must be played three times would also be useful. In these cases, it will also be necessary to be able to vary the Second time bar to show "3rd time". 6. The tricky part of creating this facility will no doubt be getting the playback function to "read" and hence play to these signs - sorry, beyond my area of expertise. Keep up the good work Paul Bennison |
From: Richard B. <bo...@bo...> - 2003-09-26 06:26:24
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On Thursday 25 September 2003 9:09 pm, Allan Metts wrote: > I see indications of Jack Transport support in the Rosegarden GUI. > Is this a working feature? No. Because JACK's transport interface went some considerable restructuring earlier in the year and so to prevent breakage during the move I just commented ours out. Now the transport stuff is reasonably stable and some other apps have implemented it - we're still waiting. We only had JACK master before anyway so to implement that again would be straightforward - to have RG a JACK slave would require more work. It's all on the to-do list. B |
From: Allan M. <am...@mi...> - 2003-09-25 20:09:09
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Hi there, I see indications of Jack Transport support in the Rosegarden GUI. Is this a working feature? I've tried using Rosegarden as both a master and a slave in this capacity (alongside ardour), and I haven't been able to get one to work alongside the other. Each application seems to do its own thing, from a transport standpoint. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? Is anyone out there doing synchronized audio and MIDI recording and/or playback? If so, how? Allan |
From: pbennison <pbe...@ip...> - 2003-09-25 09:50:15
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Hi Chris I am using Linux-from-scratch operating system (www.linuxfromscratch.org) with KDE 3.1.2 and Gnome 2.2 desk tops. My son built the system (using the PLFS Hint) for me, as I have no background in these matters. The tool chain consists of gcc-3.2.2, Binutils-2.13.2, Glibc-2.3.2 and Linux-2.4.20. My apologies for exceeding the 40k limit - didn't realise it existed. For those who want to fill in the gaps, I attach smaller versions of the attachments. Regards Paul Bennison On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:26 pm, you wrote: > On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 9:50 am, pbennison wrote: > > I have been able to re-produce the problem referred to re clef, key > > and time signatures. Screenshot 1 and 2 illustrate the problem, > > which essentially is a crowding of the three symbols to be almost > > unreadable. > > I see it now. It happens when you have the notation editor configured > to use a font size other than the default 8 pixels. (If you use the > default size and then change the size once the notation window is > open, there's no problem -- not very convenient though. If you > configure to a larger size such as you have, then the clef, key and > time get squashed up; if you configure to a smaller size, they get > stretched out.) WIll fix. > > It's always interesting seeing how other people have things > configured. It had never occurred to me that if you have the toolbar > configured to show text as well as icons, then you get the whole undo > function text ("Undo Change to Key C# major") on the toolbar button. > That's a bit ungainly. (Actually I don't even know _how_ to > configure the toolbars to show text as well as icons. Did you do > that, or is it a default in RedHat or whichever distro you use?) > > > Chris |
From: Chris C. <ca...@al...> - 2003-09-25 08:40:20
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Vladimir Savic wrote: > Right click everywhere in empty space of toolbox; from > Toolbar Menu pick Text Position -> Text Under Icons!! Oh yes! Well, you really do learn something every day. Chris |
From: Richard B. <bo...@bo...> - 2003-09-25 08:15:16
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On Thursday 25 September 2003 8:41 am, Geoff Beasley wrote: > it's the one thing stopping me from using Rosegarden in my music > studio at the moment. Are there plans for an implementaion ? Yes - there are indeed plans and have been for quite a while. It's just finding the time to implement them when I have to make money to live as well. Sponsorship of a feature is always welcome. R |
From: Geoff B. <son...@bi...> - 2003-09-25 07:35:32
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it's the one thing stopping me from using Rosegarden in my music studio at= the moment. Are there plans for an implementaion ? |
From: <svl...@ya...> - 2003-09-24 14:59:16
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> >Chris > Cannam wrote: > > > That's a bit ungainly. (Actually I don't even > know _how_ to > > configure the toolbars to show text as well as > icons. Did you do > > that, or is it a default in RedHat or whichever > distro you use?) > > I've never turned it on, but it's in the global KDE > config somewhere. > I did not see screenshots, but it should be easy (if we're talking about same thing): Right click everywhere in empty space of toolbox; from Toolbar Menu pick Text Position -> Text Under Icons!! Vladimir ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk |
From: Silvan <dmm...@us...> - 2003-09-24 13:30:17
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On Wednesday 24 September 2003 05:56 am, Chris Cannam wrote: > That's a bit ungainly. (Actually I don't even know _how_ to > configure the toolbars to show text as well as icons. Did you do > that, or is it a default in RedHat or whichever distro you use?) I've never turned it on, but it's in the global KDE config somewhere. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <dmm...@us...> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 Confirmed post number: 17907 Approximate word count: 537210 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ |
From: Chris C. <ca...@al...> - 2003-09-24 10:09:03
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On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 9:50 am, pbennison wrote: > I have been able to re-produce the problem referred to re clef, key > and time signatures. Screenshot 1 and 2 illustrate the problem, > which essentially is a crowding of the three symbols to be almost > unreadable. I see it now. It happens when you have the notation editor configured=20 to use a font size other than the default 8 pixels. (If you use the=20 default size and then change the size once the notation window is=20 open, there's no problem -- not very convenient though. If you=20 configure to a larger size such as you have, then the clef, key and=20 time get squashed up; if you configure to a smaller size, they get=20 stretched out.) WIll fix. It's always interesting seeing how other people have things=20 configured. It had never occurred to me that if you have the toolbar=20 configured to show text as well as icons, then you get the whole undo=20 function text ("Undo Change to Key C# major") on the toolbar button. =20 That's a bit ungainly. (Actually I don't even know _how_ to=20 configure the toolbars to show text as well as icons. Did you do=20 that, or is it a default in RedHat or whichever distro you use?) Chris |
From: Chris C. <ca...@al...> - 2003-09-22 14:00:10
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pbennison wrote: > 1. I need to be able to write a cadenza. This will involve > (effectively) suspending the operation of the time signature for the > duration of a bar without actually inserting a new time signature. You can sort-of work around this by adding a new time signature for one bar only, and marking it "hidden" (there's a checkbox for that in the time signature dialog). Time signatures can be as complex as you like, so if your cadenza has 17 quavers in it (or whatever) than you can always enter a 17/8 signature. > [...] any tuplet indication for the snare etc needs to go above the > grouping to keep the bass drum line clearly readable. At the moment, > the tuplet indicator defaults to below the notes when tails are up. Hmm, yes, I can see that. > 3. The default setting for positioning the time signature leaves > very little space for the clef and the key signature, which end up > being crushed onto each other. I'm not sure I understand this one. The behaviour you're asking for is the way it is supposed to be working now. I just tested it on an empty staff, and the time signature does get pushed to the right when the clef and key are entered. In what circumstance are you finding this doesn't happen? > 4. I have had some problems with the programme crashing after > entering only a few bars of notation. [...] The diagnosis or > error message is number 6 (whatever that means). Sounds like signal 6 -- abort -- failed assertion or uncaught exception. This ought to be easy enough to fix, but we really need more information first -- for example, if you ran Rosegarden from a command-line then it might print an error message before it finally exits (look for something with the word "exception" in it), or possibly it might pop up a dialog with a stack trace (in which case we'd like a copy of the stack trace). > 5. When writing (in notation form), it is disconcerting to have to > save, close and re-open the score to be able to play back. I would > like to be able to go directly to play-back from entering notation. Uh-oh. This certainly should work -- you should be able to enter notes in notation and then just hit Play in the transport window or wherever and hear them immediately. We had another report recently that suggested this was not working for someone else at the moment either. We'll look into this. Chris |
From: pbennison <pbe...@ip...> - 2003-09-22 11:32:09
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Greetings and salutations I am using Rosegarden to arrange and transcribe music for Brass Band. This involves writing for transposing instruments, and includes some specific features. I have (until recently) been a user of the Encore system, but that does not operate on Linux. I have found some of the recent improvements to Rosegarden to be very helpful, eg the click and drag to change the pitch of a note (a very sensitive action), but there are some other features which would be very helpful. Some of these may be under consideration now, in which case you will know there is an immediate use for them here. 1. I need to be able to write a cadenza. This will involve (effectively) suspending the operation of the time signature for the duration of a bar without actually inserting a new time signature. 2. In the percussion stave, I need to be able to write for the snare drum, bass drum, tom-toms and cymbols (hi-hat etc) - ie drum kit - on the one stave. This usually means having stems up on snare drum, tom-toms and cymbols, and down on bass drum. In this case any tuplet indication for the snare etc needs to go above the grouping to keep the bass drum line clearly readable. At the moment, the tuplet indicator defaults to below the notes when tails are up. 3. The default setting for positioning the time signature leaves very little space for the clef and the key signature, which end up being crushed onto each other. This looks untidy and can be difficult to read. It would be helpful if the time signature could move to the right as the clef and time signature are inserted. 4. I have had some problems with the programme crashing after entering only a few bars of notation. While there is an auto-save (thankfully), the result (when there are multiple crashes) is frustration. The diagnosis or error message is number 6 (whatever that means). 5. When writing (in notation form), it is disconcerting to have to save, close and re-open the score to be able to play back. I would like to be able to go directly to play-back from entering notation. Keep up the good work. I am looking forward to again having a system which enables me to do some real work! Regards. Paul Bennison |
From: Larry T. <lt...@we...> - 2003-09-19 19:29:07
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When the "send MIDI clock and system messages" box is checked, I've noticed that Rosegarden (a July CVS version) sends a stream of song position pointers, and no start, stop or continue messages at all. I always thought (and I could easily be wrong), that the proper way to use MIDI realtime/system messages, was to send a single song position pointer, followed by a continue message, and then use MIDI clock messages to conduct the synchronization during playback. I took a look around the web, and the second-hand MIDI descriptions I read were all kind of vague about whether it's allowed to use song postion pointer as a synchronization device during playback. I personally have no problem with it, except for this - using thie technique, how do I know when playback has stopped or started, since Rosegarden isn't sending the start/continue/stop messages? (Or maybe it is, and my MIDI parser is loosing them). I think the only way is to use a timeout technique - if I don't receive a song position pointer after a timeout period, I consider playback to be stopped, until the next spp is received. Is this the way to do it? Or is this behavior a bug and I should get the latest CVS (yeah I know I should but want to make sure audio is working before I bother) Thanks in advance Larry |
From: Ronnie K. <ro...@ko...> - 2003-09-18 13:34:33
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Hi. > If this is the case try rebuilding and pay attention to the flags > to configure - the default should be for ALSA anyway but I wonder > if something whacky is going on with a Gentoo installer to make > RG build with no sound support? BTW what version of RG are you > using? It's rosegarden-4.0.9 (the latest ebuild from gentoo mirrors). From rosegarden-4.0.9.ebuild : src_compile() { ./configure \ --host=${CHOST} \ --prefix=/usr \ --infodir=/usr/share/info \ --mandir=/usr/share/man \ --with-jack \ --with-ladspa || die "./configure failed" emake || die } Now when you mention "no sound support", i did that some time before installing the Gentoo ebuild. What i did was trying to compile rosegarden-4.0.9.1 from sourceforge. However, I never got this compile to work, so I was fiddling with the flags and the only time it built successfully was with the --no-sound (or --nosound?). Oh, those installs are removed btw, so the "right" rosegarden is in the path now... Snip from Gentoo emerge configure/build (ebuild): .... checking for gzgets in -lz... yes checking for ALSA CFLAGS... checking for ALSA LDFLAGS... -lasound -lm -ldl -lpthread checking for libasound headers version >= 0.9.0... found. checking for snd_ctl_open in -lasound... yes checking for jack/jack.h... yes checking for shm_open in -lrt... yes checking for jack_client_new in -ljack... yes checking for lrdf_dump in -llrdf... no ... /Ronnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Bown" <bo...@bo...> To: "Ronnie Kolehmainen" <ro...@ko...>; <ros...@li...> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] How do I get midi/sequencer started? > On Thursday 18 September 2003 8:57 am, Ronnie Kolehmainen wrote: > > > and sorry if this is a noobish question, but I can't find any answer > > in the docs. My problem is getting midi sequencer working with > > Rosegarden. Maybe this is alsa-related, but since aseqview is working > > i posted to this list. > > Looks like your system is all ready to go. > > > This is output from starting rosegardensequencer: > > > > bash-2.05b$ rosegardensequencer > > rosegardensequencer: Registering with DCOP server > > rosegardensequencer: created plugin manager > > MappedAudioPluginManager::discoverPlugins - discovering plugins > > rosegardensequencer: RosegardenSequencer - started OK > > > > That's all I get. > > I would say that Rosegarden is wrongly configured in that case. > It should report the ALSA client it's creating on sequencer > start up. I'm not personally familiar with Gentoo but all the packages > (erm, forgotten what they're called) get built on your system don't > they or something? > > If this is the case try rebuilding and pay attention to the flags > to configure - the default should be for ALSA anyway but I wonder > if something whacky is going on with a Gentoo installer to make > RG build with no sound support? BTW what version of RG are you > using? > > Cheers, > R > |