From: Dave P. <dp...@we...> - 2009-12-23 09:19:18
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Hi, I'm passing this on from : https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?GoAheadAndLogIn=1&id=566843 quote "when adding a short dotted note (quarter/eighth/sixteenth/thirtytooth dotted) at the same position as a long note (whole or half note) but at an other height, the new note is added with the length of the existing one" unquote My musical notation knowledge is minimal, I assume this is a bug, can anyone reproduce it? I've also added bug 2919852 Thanks Dave P |
From: D. M. M. <mic...@ro...> - 2009-12-23 18:47:54
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On Wednesday 23 December 2009, Dave Plater wrote: > Hi, I'm passing this on from : > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?GoAheadAndLogIn=1&id=566843 It's impossible to view that link without creating an account, so I didn't bother. (Just too busy, sorry.) Anyway, I'm well-familiar with this one. > "when adding a short dotted note (quarter/eighth/sixteenth/thirtytooth > dotted) at the same position as a long note (whole or half note) but at > an other height, the new note is added with the length of the existing one" The upstream developer says: This is not a bug. Rosegarden is working as designed, and this design is not so different from other notation editors in both the open source and commercial realms. If you try to enter two different rhythms in the same voice in any other notation editor I tried, you get different bad results, but the results are all bad. The solution in a traditional notation editor is to insert the notes into a different voice, which is easily accomplished. Unfortunately, this is not so easy to accomplish in Rosegarden, and involves more manual work on the part of the user. We do hope to dream up and implement some way of automating this and making it behave in a more friendly manner in the future, but we have had this dream for years, and have not had the brain power to figure out a way to make it work yet. What users must do in the meantime is draw overlapping segments by hand, and resolve the conflicts manually. I elaborated on a bit of this in the "Piano Notation by Example" tutorial found here: http://rosegardenmusic.com/tutorials/supplemental/piano/index.html In the way of offering a nugget of hope that this whole thing might be resolved more elegantly in the future, I've just had an idea that I'm going to sneak off and try to cram in at the last possible minute, before I take another screenshot. Stay tuned. But anyway, the solution will *always* involve resolving this sort of rhythm conflict into different, separate segments manually. I only hope to make that a little more elegant to achieve in use, not eliminate the need, which is almost completely impossible. (I've only seen one piece of software that tried to resolve rhythm conflicts automatically, and it did a poor job, and had 20 years of development and a real budget on us. We're not even going to make that attempt.) -- D. Michael McIntyre |