From: Alexandre P. <tec...@la...> - 2004-03-30 10:06:30
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Richard Bown <ric...@fe...>: > On Tuesday 30 March 2004 10:01, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > > I see no to technical reason for H. not to use pipes in > > order to cooperate with sequencers. > > There are probably loads of technical reasons - > we've certainly had enough of our own communicating > between RG's two big processes. However some form > of information interchange between RG and H would be > lovely - be it MIDI input/output, RG format i/o, > a shared data structure or whatever. Launching > Hyrdogen as a drum editor from within RG would be > great, as would having a button on Hydrogen to say > "Export to RG" (or other) and getting an exported > MIDI pattern across. > > Actually perhaps then to start all we have to do is > implement a Hydrogen import filter. Duh. It's all > just XML after all.. This will be just RG-Hydrogen solution, while people keep using MusE. Missing is a common interchange protocol, except. GMPI is half the way of discussing without any code :-( So MIDI would be best for now from my user's POV. Alexandre |
From: Alexandre P. <tec...@la...> - 2004-03-30 10:50:41
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Richard Bown <ric...@fe...>: > On Tuesday 30 March 2004 11:05, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > > > Actually perhaps then to start all we have to do is > > > implement a Hydrogen import filter. Duh. It's all > > > just XML after all.. > > > > This will be just RG-Hydrogen solution, while people > > keep using MusE. Missing is a common interchange > > protocol, except. GMPI is half the way of discussing > > without any code :-( > > Exactly - common interchange stuff is all very well if > people stop talking and actually write some code at some > point or other. Anyway, no great shakes here. A Hydrogen > import filter for RG is something that we're solely > responsible for so I've got no problem going ahead and > implementing it. A bigger solution may appear at some > point or other. > > > So MIDI would be best for now from my user's POV. > > Yeah, it would certainly help if Hydrogen could export > directly to MIDI in some meaningful way. Anyway, it's > probably time to stop crossposting this now. I've > subscribed to hydrogen-devel if anyone wants to continue > it on there. But won't it require a native drum editor at some (and maybe early) stage? Alexandre |
From: Richard B. <ric...@fe...> - 2004-03-30 11:00:18
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On Tuesday 30 March 2004 11:50, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > But won't it require a native drum editor at some > (and maybe early) stage? A drum editor isn't considered to be part of 1.0 functionality as you can do a lot of this with the matrix editor now. Perhaps we could offer a drum overlay for this editor - that might make sense - but it would still require a reasonable amount of effort. Either people can use the matrix editor as is or we can make a Hydrogen input filter and encourage people to see how their Hydrogen patterns appear in RG. I'm working on that right now actually 'cos I'm quite interested in seeing if it works.. R |
From: Richard B. <ric...@fe...> - 2004-03-30 15:33:31
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On Tuesday 30 March 2004 11:59, Richard Bown wrote: > editor as is or we can make a Hydrogen input filter and encourage people to > see how their Hydrogen patterns appear in RG. Ok, there's a very basic hydrogen import filter in CVS. It lifts out each drum line from each pattern into its own Segment and places those on new tracks at the first bar - it does this for all the patterns in the song. Currently the "song mode" is ignored - so you can only do things with these imported patterns. Plus the drum mappings aren't quite correct for GM drums yet. Should work on a fairly recent version of Hydrogen for you though. Shouldn't be too hard to extend this filter to lift out an entire Hydrogen song and turn that into a single or multiple Segments in RG too. Adding this as a merge feature would be good too. R |
From: Chris C. <ca...@al...> - 2004-03-30 15:43:26
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On Tuesday 30 Mar 2004 4:33 pm, Richard Bown wrote: > Shouldn't be too hard to extend this filter to lift out an entire > Hydrogen song and turn that into a single or multiple Segments in > RG too. Adding this as a merge feature would be good too. Merging should be trivial -- the same code is used for all file types once the document is available (now I look at it I think that code's been rearranged yet again since I was last there, but the principle should stand). Chris |
From: Richard B. <ric...@fe...> - 2004-03-30 10:27:38
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On Tuesday 30 March 2004 11:05, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > Actually perhaps then to start all we have to do is > > implement a Hydrogen import filter. Duh. It's all > > just XML after all.. > > This will be just RG-Hydrogen solution, while people > keep using MusE. Missing is a common interchange > protocol, except. GMPI is half the way of discussing > without any code :-( Exactly - common interchange stuff is all very well if people stop talking and actually write some code at some point or other. Anyway, no great shakes here. A Hydrogen import filter for RG is something that we're solely responsible for so I've got no problem going ahead and implementing it. A bigger solution may appear at some point or other. > So MIDI would be best for now from my user's POV. Yeah, it would certainly help if Hydrogen could export directly to MIDI in some meaningful way. Anyway, it's probably time to stop crossposting this now. I've subscribed to hydrogen-devel if anyone wants to continue it on there. R |