From: Guillaume L. <gla...@te...> - 2002-02-18 11:14:31
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On Monday 18 February 2002 12:07, Chris Cannam wrote: > > Oh, _vertical_ scrolling. Sorry. I misthought -- I do get the > track buttons, albeit a bit squished; OK, that's a relief somewhat. > it's the bar buttons I don't get. Even if you resize the main window a little bit ? -- Guillaume http://www.telegraph-road.org |
From: Chris C. <ca...@al...> - 2002-02-18 11:18:07
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Guillaume Laurent wrote: > Even if you resize the main window a little bit ? Um, for some reason I hadn't tried that "obvious" solution. I'll give it a go when the thing's built. Chris |
From: Richard B. <bo...@bo...> - 2002-02-18 12:30:14
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Another missing commit? > rosegardenguiview.cpp:438: no matching function for call to > `TrackEditor::getTrackButtons R |
From: Guillaume L. <gla...@te...> - 2002-02-18 13:06:58
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On Monday 18 February 2002 13:28, Richard Bown wrote: > Another missing commit? Damn. Fixed. -- Guillaume http://www.telegraph-road.org |
From: Chris C. <ca...@al...> - 2002-02-18 11:30:28
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Guillaume Laurent wrote: > On Monday 18 February 2002 12:07, Chris Cannam wrote: > >>Oh, _vertical_ scrolling. Sorry. I misthought -- I do get the >>track buttons, albeit a bit squished; > > OK, that's a relief somewhat. Vertical scrolling works, although scrolling upwards is flickery and it looks a bit odd the way it's happy to place track buttons in the space to the left of the horizontal scrollbar (at the bottom of the window). Also I think the track buttons appear to overlap the segment canvas & the horizontal scrollbar by a pixel or so -- there's some green colour shared between them, and the leftmost bevel of the scrollbar disappears when something scrolls over it. >>it's the bar buttons I don't get. > > Even if you resize the main window a little bit ? Ah -- yes, then they appear. Never get more than the width of the window, so they won't scroll. Chris |
From: Guillaume L. <gla...@te...> - 2002-02-18 13:10:15
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On Monday 18 February 2002 12:27, Chris Cannam wrote: > > Vertical scrolling works, although scrolling upwards is > flickery and it looks a bit odd the way it's happy to place > track buttons in the space to the left of the horizontal > scrollbar (at the bottom of the window). [...] Yes yes yes. There's still some fine tuning needed here, but it's not a priority. I hope to have fixed at least some of the crashes though. > Ah -- yes, then they appear. Never get more than the width > of the window, so they won't scroll. It can't scroll at the moment. I'm still far from done here, sorry for the delay. -- Guillaume http://www.telegraph-road.org |
From: Richard B. <bo...@bo...> - 2002-02-18 13:19:46
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Guillaume Laurent wrote: > It can't scroll at the moment. I'm still far from done here, sorry for the > delay. It's quite alright actually as it gives me the perfect excuse to do some work that actually pays. R |
From: Richard B. <bo...@bo...> - 2002-02-19 18:20:22
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How do I get the latest version of aRTS from CVS? I can't find where and how and when and stuff and I've lost where it's supposed to come from. And what exactly is going on with aRTS and kde multimedia anyhow? Who's actually in charge of saying yay or nay when it comes to what goes in and what doesn't? Or is it all by committee? And if so is that why it's so painful to get any information out of anyone? There are some pretty cool things promised here: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-multimedia&m=100378562103417&w=2 (ooh look, we get a mention) but how do we get some input? From that mail it all looks like it's get done on IRC hack spit. So my plan of attack is this: a) find out what aRTS has got now - for this I need to check the CVS b) if it doesn't look like it's got the stuff we need (good ALSA/OSS support), midi/audio synchronisation yet try and get someone to tell us if it'll be looked at soon. Any thoughts? R |
From: Guillaume L. <gla...@te...> - 2002-02-19 21:20:22
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On Tuesday 19 February 2002 19:18, Richard Bown wrote: > How do I get the latest version of aRTS from CVS? I can't find where > and how and when and stuff and I've lost where it's supposed to come > from. aRTS has been moved to its own cvs module, aptly named 'arts'. > And what exactly is going on with aRTS and kde multimedia anyhow? > Who's actually in charge of saying yay or nay when it comes to what > goes in and what doesn't? AFAIK Stefan Westerfeld is still the leader here. > From that mail it all looks like it's get done on IRC hack spit. It seems Stef prefers irc to mail as a way of input and discussion. > So my plan of attack is this: > > a) find out what aRTS has got now - for this I need to check the CVS cvs -z3 co arts should do the trick > b) if it doesn't look like it's got the stuff we need (good ALSA/OSS > support), midi/audio synchronisation yet try and get someone to > tell us if it'll be looked at soon. > > Any thoughts? Better try to do it ourselves (and integrate it to aRTS of course, I don't mean to fork anything). -- Guillaume. http://www.telegraph-road.org |
From: Chris C. <ca...@al...> - 2002-02-19 21:31:33
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Guillaume Laurent wrote: > On Tuesday 19 February 2002 19:18, Richard Bown wrote: > >>How do I get the latest version of aRTS from CVS? I can't find where >>and how and when and stuff and I've lost where it's supposed to come >>from. > > aRTS has been moved to its own cvs module, aptly named 'arts'. I don't know whether that answers Rich's question because I don't know how much he knew, but it wouldn't tell me anything. What CVS server? What's the rest of the path? > cvs -z3 co arts > > should do the trick Uh, the only CVS servers I have configured are SourceForge and GNOME. I'm sure it isn't on GNOME and SourceForge's arts project is something quite different. > Better try to do it ourselves (and integrate it to aRTS of course, I don't > mean to fork anything). Are you sure? It surely isn't really a good idea to start hacking on aRTS as well as Rosegarden. Remember gtk--. I think Rich is right -- I think we need to try to have a little more influence in the direction this thing takes; if that involves hacking the code, then maybe that's the way it has to be, but I don't want to see the situation persist for long in which Brahms is the "reference" sequencer for aRTS and Rosegarden is just somewhere in the queue. I'd like some reason to be well-disposed towards aRTS: for the moment all I can see is that Rich thought it was okay, but as a user it seems to do less for me than OSS did. Oh, and I'm not well-disposed towards projects that do all their discussion on IRC, but then hey, I don't much like phones either. Chris |
From: Richard B. <bo...@bo...> - 2002-02-20 08:25:44
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Guillaume Laurent wrote: > aRTS has been moved to its own cvs module, aptly named 'arts'. Which contains approximately half the code of the previous releases of aRTS. Of course I also need Qt3.0.2 - where the hell do you get it from considering that trolltech.com only have 3.0.1 on public release at the moment? R |
From: Guillaume L. <gla...@te...> - 2002-02-20 09:50:23
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On Wednesday 20 February 2002 09:23, Richard Bown wrote: > > Of course I also need Qt3.0.2 - where the hell do you get it from > considering that trolltech.com only have 3.0.1 on public release > at the moment? It's expected to be released anytime now, or you can get it from the 'qt-copy' module from kde's cvs. However I'd be surprised if Qt 3.0.1 wouldn't work. -- Guillaume http://www.telegraph-road.org |
From: Guillaume L. <gla...@te...> - 2002-02-19 21:57:50
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(sorry for the resend - wrong list) On Tuesday 19 February 2002 22:29, Chris Cannam wrote: > > aRTS has been moved to its own cvs module, aptly named 'arts'. > > I don't know whether that answers Rich's question because I don't > know how much he knew, but it wouldn't tell me anything. What CVS > server? cvs.kde.org or any mirror. > What's the rest of the path? There's no path, it's a module. > > Better try to do it ourselves (and integrate it to aRTS of course, I > > don't mean to fork anything). > > Are you sure? It surely isn't really a good idea to start hacking > on aRTS as well as Rosegarden. Remember gtk--. I agree, but gtk-- was something of much wider scope than providing ALSA wrappers (I think we can rule out OSS, Alsa being integrated in the Linux kernel) for aRTS. > I think Rich is right -- I think we need to try to have a little > more influence in the direction this thing takes; Yup... Perhaps the best way to go is to mail our concerns to Stefan first. > Oh, and I'm not well-disposed towards projects that do all their > discussion on IRC, but then hey, I don't much like phones either. Can't argue otherwise here :-). -- Guillaume. http://www.telegraph-road.org |
From: Chris C. <ca...@al...> - 2002-02-20 07:34:44
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Guillaume Laurent wrote: > On Tuesday 19 February 2002 22:29, Chris Cannam wrote: >> What's the rest of the path? > > There's no path, it's a module. This obtuseness is obviously just another way of saying RTFM, so cross-referencing with the KDE site it seems you can get arts from CVSROOT=":pserver:ano...@an...:/home/kde" with "cvs -z3 co arts". Do "cvs login" first, no password. Couldn't get cvs.kde.org to work, and by "path" I meant that all-important "/home/kde" bit. > I think we can rule out OSS, Alsa being integrated in the Linux > kernel Suppose this means I might think about getting ALSA then. ("Integrated in the Linux kernel" is hardly a very helpful phrase, being as it only appeared in 2.5.something which nobody uses yet. And OSS has been "integrated in the Linux kernel" for ages. I don't disagree in principle though.) Chris |
From: Richard B. <bo...@bo...> - 2002-02-20 08:08:22
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Chris Cannam wrote: > Suppose this means I might think about getting ALSA then. I wouldn't worry about it yet - you won't notice any difference until aRTS starts supporting on-board soundcard synths anyway. And even then you might be able to get away with OSS. R |
From: Guillaume L. <gla...@te...> - 2002-02-20 09:45:29
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On Wednesday 20 February 2002 08:32, Chris Cannam wrote: > This obtuseness is obviously just another way of saying RTFM, Sorry, I thought you already had all the info regarding KDE's cvs. > ("Integrated in the Linux kernel" is hardly a very helpful phrase, > being as it only appeared in 2.5.something which nobody uses yet. The point is just that in a not-too-distant future OSS will be phased out and remplaced by ALSA, so it's probably not a good idea to spend too much time on OSS. -- Guillaume http://www.telegraph-road.org |