[Aere Greenway <Aere@Dvorak-Keyboards.com>]

Ted:

The "non-virtuouso case" is fine.  That would just fix what was already
there, and should work.  The "virtuooso case" is something that hasn't
yet worked in Rosegarden - possibly from the very beginning, and
certainly hasn't worked since Ubuntu 8.04.  

Being able to hear what is being recorded would be very desirable for
what I'm doing.  The work-around involves turning-off MIDI-thru, and
piping the audio (from the source) manually, using qjackctl, to the
synthesizer being used.  This procedure is needlessly complex.  You
should be able to just hear what you're recording in Rosegarden.  

An alternative would be to use MusE, but all of my course-ware (and
experience) is with Rosegarden, and I would have to re-do (and re-gain)
the expertise being imparted, if I had to use MusE.  

In my view, there is only one crash (which can also manifest itself as a
hang), which you worked on, and have a fix for.  

I did run into another crash just recently, but I tested it on the new
(development) version of Rosegarden, and found that version did not
crash, so I am not particularly concerned about that crash.  

That other crash does happen with the version of Rosegarden you get with
Ubuntu 12.04, so if you want me to document that crash for information
sake, I will be happy to do so.  

- Aere


On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 22:32 -0400, Ted Felix wrote:

> On 09/11/2012 09:34 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
> > The case where input events get missed when recording is (of the
> > problems not yet fixed) the highest priority, which I think the
> > Beethoven piece is a part of.
> 
>    Ok, there were two test cases where notes were dropped.  One was very 
> serious in that rg would drop notes even with simple (non-virtuoso) 
> input.  I fixed this and the fix is in rg 12.04.
> 
>    The other test case is the Beethoven case.  Essentially, given 
> virtuoso level input, rg fails miserably at MIDI recording.
> 
>    I'm wondering if you can get away with the non-virtuoso level of 
> quality that we have now for your project.  If so, you might want to 
> move the Beethoven dropped notes problem to lower priority.  Your 
> choice.  Try your easier test cases with the latest and you should find 
> that it works fine.  Once you've checked it out, let me know if you want 
> to shuffle the priorities.
> 
> > The next highest priority (from my point of view) is the ability to hear
> > the multiple instruments being recorded by way of the recording filter
> > as they are being recorded, is the next highest priority, since my MIDI
> > device sends on at least two MIDI channels, each of which are almost
> > always a different instrument sound.  There are ways of working around
> > this, but they are needlessly complicated.
> 
>    Right.  I was hoping Tom could address this one since he's more 
> familiar with that area.  He already addressed the issue of sending a 
> program change when switching track selection.  It would be nice if it 
> would also send program changes on the armed tracks/channels when record 
> is started like it used to.  It requires two MIDI sources to test.  But 
> that's not a problem given vmpk.  I think you can just run two 
> instances.  Or one vmpk and one real MIDI keyboard.  Tom, if you're 
> reading this, can you take a further look at this, or point me to the 
> right classes and I'll see what I can do?
> 
> > Certainly the crash (already fixed?) is probably the highest priority.
> 
>    I'm hoping that was your crash from before.  However, I'm not sure 
> whether you were recording something really long, then deleting a 
> segment.  That's the key to the crash that I fixed.  If you have another 
> crash procedure, I can have a look at it too.
> 
> Ted.
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Sincerely,
Aere