Can't get Refind to boot separate disks properly

[methanoid]

I have got multiple OS's on different SSDs. Legacy/CSM is disabled.

I have MacOS,Windows10,Kubuntu,PrimeOS(Android) (and more planned). Each OS
works fine and boots from the UEFI entry in the BIOS selecting each with
F12 to choose which i want

I wanted manual stanzas so added them. Kubuntu works fine. PrimeOS works
fine.

Windows starts to load but then goes to a black screen for 5-10 minutes
before loading (but same install boots in seconds if I select from
UEFI/BIOS menu with F12. I've tried loading Bootx64.efi, Bootmgfw.efi and
Bootmgr.efi. Same story

MacOS is set to load OpenCore via Bootx64.efi as it works fine with that
loader but it doesnt with rEFInd. It loads Kubuntu for some reason (maybe
cos thats same EFI where rEFInd sits)

I have scanfor external,optical,manual (removing internal so I don't get
auto scan entries, too many of those)

plus these manual entries

Load rEFInd theme Regular

include themes/refind-theme-regular/theme.conf

menuentry "Kubuntu" {
icon /EFI/refind/icons/os_kubuntu.png
#volume E8102FB1-8E4D-400A-9857-06A4461F3091
loader /EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi
}

menuentry "Windows 10" {
icon \EFI\refind\icons\os_win8.png
volume 948E693F-BACD-47D5-939F-F2D79AFD0C0A
loader /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi

loader \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgr.efi

loader \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi

loader \EFI\Boot\bootx64.efi

}

menuentry "MacOS" {
icon /EFI/refind/icons/os_mac.png
volume 8807B4D8-1F4A-46AE-A0C1-B3C4E95645DB
loader /EFI/BOOT/BOOTx64.efi
}

menuentry "PrimeOS" {
icon /EFI/refind/icons/os_android.png
volume AD801A46-48B0-41C3-8CF7-8DB26E1B9185
loader /EFI/boot/bootx64.efi
}

Any ideas?

[methanoid]

Much reading has led me to try firmware_bootnum which allows me to get Windows 10 & OpenCore/MacOS to work BUT... I'd still prefer NOT to use that as it adds a small pic of a chip over the Windows and Mac logos...

So still not where i want to be