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From: Chris K. <ch...@ka...> - 2003-07-31 19:01:25
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Markus Hoenicka wrote: > > Hi Chris, > Hi Markus, > I guess the problem you ran into is related to the fact that many of > your database entries lack the author string. Would you mind trying > again, giving each entry at least one mock author? If this fixes your > problem, I can go back to the sources and try to work around the > problem. Indeed, this fixed the problem: I supplied an author name to every bibliographic entry I use and that error went away. I remember reading in the (excellent) documentation that only one or two fields are required to be filled (I think TY and something else), but the Author field was not mentioned in this context. So I guess it is some bug you will be able to locate and fix after this information - if you need more, just contact me. Bear in mind that I have a lot of "electronic" entries (TY=ELEC), if this makes a difference (but why should it?). > If this does not fix your problem, please send me a complete > set of data (RIS input file, SGML document, the commands you run to > cause the problem) off-list. > Well, I get a new behaviour now: the only thing I see is POS then it ends without any error messages and the .bib.sgml file is empty! The id.xml file is filled, though (it was filled even with the previous error). I tried it with both IDs and citation keys in my citations - same result. I have searched the code a little and saw that this "POS" should actually be, sent to the refdb server - why do I see it on the command line output? I included the refdb catalog file in my SGML_CATALOG_FILES, but did not change anything: SGML_CATALOG_FILES="/usr/share/sgml/CATALOG.iso_ent" SGML_CATALOG_FILES="$SGML_CATALOG_FILES:/usr/share/sgml/CATALOG.docbook-dsssl-stylesheets" SGML_CATALOG_FILES="$SGML_CATALOG_FILES:/usr/share/sgml/CATALOG.docbook_3" SGML_CATALOG_FILES="$SGML_CATALOG_FILES:/usr/share/sgml/CATALOG.docbook_4" SGML_CATALOG_FILES="$SGML_CATALOG_FILES:/usr/share/sgml/openjade/catalog" SGML_CATALOG_FILES="$SGML_CATALOG_FILES:/usr/share/sgml/stylesheets/sgmltools/sgmltools.cat" SGML_CATALOG_FILES="$SGML_CATALOG_FILES:/usr/share/sgml/dtd/sgmltools/catalog" SGML_CATALOG_FILES="$SGML_CATALOG_FILES:/usr/share/refdb/refdb.cat" export SGML_CATALOG_FILES I use: expat-1.95.2-15 docbook_3-3.1-98 docbook_4-4.1-97 docbook-dsssl-stylesheets-1.72-34 docbook-xml-website-2.0a2-27 docbook-xsl-stylesheets-1.42-34 html-dtd-2001.11.7-0 iso_ent-2000.11.03-122 jade_dsl-1.2.1-369 openjade-1.3-289 sgmltools-lite-3.0.2-164 tei-3-331 all from SuSE. I have the feeling that I may be missing something that has to do with XML processing, since I concentrate on SGML and never bothered with XML. Let me know what other you need. It would be great if I could get this to work, because I am trying to incorporate it in a "LyX-SGML" framework: you write in LyX, the rest is done by some scripts of mine. I don't want to tell my users "supply your own bibliography SGML file". Refdb would fit perfectly here in supplying it. I appreciate your patience with my rants. I am not as cool as I would like to be lately. -- Regards Chris Karakas http://www.karakas-online.de -- -- Regards Chris Karakas http://www.karakas-online.de |
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From: Bruce D'A. <bd...@fa...> - 2003-07-31 21:11:37
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On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 03:01 PM, Chris Karakas wrote: >> I guess the problem you ran into is related to the fact that many of >> your database entries lack the author string. Would you mind trying >> again, giving each entry at least one mock author? If this fixes your >> problem, I can go back to the sources and try to work around the >> problem. > > Indeed, this fixed the problem: Having been trying to convince the MODS people of the need for attributes to indicate unattributed and anonymous authors, I can tell you this is an important issue for me. I've got records for articles with no author (for example, the Economist does not list author names on articles), records for which I know there is an author but cannot figure out what it is (think an archival document), and even a few real anonymous authors (which is different). So, obviously I hope the bug gets fixed. Longer term, maybe we can look at this issue for future revisions (of citestylex, etc.)? Bruce |
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From: Markus H. <mar...@mh...> - 2003-08-01 23:03:10
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Hi, Bruce D'Arcus writes: > Having been trying to convince the MODS people of the need for > attributes to indicate unattributed and anonymous authors, I can tell > you this is an important issue for me. I've got records for articles > with no author (for example, the Economist does not list author names > on articles), records for which I know there is an author but cannot > figure out what it is (think an archival document), and even a few real > anonymous authors (which is different). > > So, obviously I hope the bug gets fixed. Longer term, maybe we can > look at this issue for future revisions (of citestylex, etc.)? > I'll wait for some test data to see what's going on. I've fixed one obvious pitfall in CVS: all references with no authors were treated as subsequent entries of the same author in the bibliography stuff. There may be some more potholes like this. Otherwise the styles do contain provisions to deal with references without authors. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka mar...@ca... (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de |
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From: Markus H. <mar...@mh...> - 2003-07-31 22:36:03
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Hi, Chris Karakas writes: > Indeed, this fixed the problem: I supplied an author name to every bibliographic > entry I use and that error went away. I remember reading in the (excellent) > documentation that only one or two fields are required to be filled (I think TY and > something else), but the Author field was not mentioned in this context. So I guess > it is some bug you will be able to locate and fix after this information - if you > need more, just contact me. Bear in mind that I have a lot of "electronic" entries > (TY=ELEC), if this makes a difference (but why should it?). > I'll have to try and see what problems crop up if you use references without authors. According to the RIS "spec", authors are not mandatory, but there may be some issues when creating bibliographies. In order to speed up things... > > If this does not fix your problem, please send me a complete > > set of data (RIS input file, SGML document, the commands you run to > > cause the problem) off-list. > > Would you mind providing some sample data along these lines? This would allow me to debug this a lot faster. > > Well, I get a new behaviour now: the only thing I see is > > POS > > then it ends without any error messages and the .bib.sgml file is empty! The id.xml > file is filled, though (it was filled even with the previous error). > > I tried it with both IDs and citation keys in my citations - same result. > > I have searched the code a little and saw that this "POS" should actually be, sent > to the refdb server - why do I see it on the command line output? > This happens when the server child process crashes :-O I've fixed a load of bugs in the bibliography code lately, so it would be really helpful if you could test the current CVS version. If you don't feel like building from CVS, please hold on a couple of days. I'll do another prerelease with the most recent bugfixes on the weekend or early next week. > I included the refdb catalog file in my SGML_CATALOG_FILES, but did not change > anything: > This is not a matter of concern until foo.bib.sgml is created properly. I'd suggest to get this done first and then revisit the SGML processing if this still fails. > It would be great if I could get this to work, because I am trying to incorporate it > in a "LyX-SGML" framework: you write in LyX, the rest is done by some scripts of > mine. I don't want to tell my users "supply your own bibliography SGML file". Refdb > would fit perfectly here in supplying it. > Sounds like an interesting concept. Is there any public description of this setup available? regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka mar...@ca... (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de |
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From: Jorgen O. <jo...@im...> - 2005-03-23 21:26:06
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I have just managed to get refdb running on one of our linux servers. The idea is to try it out an maybe have refdb replace the reference managers which is currently running on most of our windows desktops. Having just tried the first tests from the refdb manual I am only beginning to get an idea about how refdb works. I am a little puzzled about the citation styles. As far as I can see only two styles are available for instalment on the server following the initial installation. My question is if there exists a downloadable list of additional styles for specific journals ? Regards Jorgen -------------------------------------------- Jorgen Olsen, MD, DMSc, Associate Professor Department of Medical Biochemistry & Genetics University of Copenhagen The Panum Institute. Build. 6.4. Blegdamsvej 3 DK-2200 Copenhagen N Denmark Phone 45 35327637 Fax. 45 35367980 Homepage http://www.imbg.ku.dk/cmec/staff/jolsen/jolsen.html |
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From: Markus H. <mar...@mh...> - 2005-03-24 12:41:06
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Jorgen Olsen <jo...@im...> was heard to say: > I am a little puzzled about the citation styles. As far as I can see only > two styles are available for instalment on the server following the initial > installation. > > My question is if there exists a downloadable list of additional styles for > specific journals ? > Unfortunately your observation is correct. I'll certainly add more styles as soon as I need them myself, but I lack the time to write styles just for the heck of it. If anyone has written or customized styles, please let the list know and we'll find a way to make them available on the web. If you (or anyone else) wants to hack styles, please be aware that David Nebauer provided a nice script which allows to define styles interactively. The script is available through CVS (check out the makestyle module). You can also download the files from the CVS web frontend: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/refdb/makestyle/ Please see also the following thread for some additional information about this tool: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=5280195&forum_id=1798 regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka mar...@ca... (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de |
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