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Re: [ros-kernel] Re: ROS gui
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From: Robert K. <ro...@ko...> - 2002-07-20 10:34:23
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Do you also know these people? Word belongs to Windows. Explorer is the OS/windows. A display runs sometimes in DOS-mode. The internet is an application on the desktop and consists of just HTML sites. It belongs to either AOL or M$ who maintains all the content (including warez-sites?) ! Richard Campbell schrieb: > I think you guys need to stop thinking like geeks and start thinking > like AOLers... (i.e. explorer DOES need to be cloned because it is > part of windows nt.) > > PS, I've missed out on alot of ROS development (although very few > people have missed my flames I'm sure :)) I hope to be up to speed > > >> From: rea...@li... >> Reply-To: rea...@li... >> To: rea...@li... >> Subject: reactos-kernel digest, Vol 1 #239 - 13 msgs >> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:10:27 -0700 >> >> Send reactos-kernel mailing list submissions to >> rea...@li... >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/reactos-kernel >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> rea...@li... >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> rea...@li... >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of reactos-kernel digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. =?iso-8859-1?Q?YAW:_yet_another_windows_(old_project)?= >> (=?utf-8?Q?ea...@io...?=) >> 2. Re: YAW: yet another windows (old project) (Royce Mitchell III) >> 3. Re: YAW: yet another windows (old project) (Thomas J. Hruska) >> 4. Re: finally got good stack trace... (David Welch) >> 5. Re: The Explorer replacement we need. (KJK::Hyperion) >> 6. FW: Proposal - alt.os.reactos Discussion forum for the OpenSource >> WindowsNT/2K clone ReactOS (Steven Edwards) >> 7. newsgroup (Steven Edwards) >> 8. Re: newsgroup (David Welch) >> 9. Re: newsgroup (Steven Edwards) >> 10. Re: finally got good stack trace... (Eric Kohl) >> 11. Re: finally got good stack trace... (Royce Mitchell III) >> 12. Re: The Explorer replacement we need. (Nick Date) >> 13. Re: The Explorer replacement we need. >> (=?iso-8859-2?Q?H=E1morszky_Bal=E1zs?=) >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:37:44 +0200 >> From: "=?utf-8?Q?ea...@io...?=" <ea...@io...> >> To: rea...@li... >> Subject: [ros-kernel] >> =?iso-8859-1?Q?YAW:_yet_another_windows_(old_project)?= >> Reply-To: rea...@li... >> >> SXMgaXQgYSBkZWFkIHByb2plY3Q/DQoNCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuaWNlLnJ1L3lhdy8= >> >> >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:17:04 -0600 (Central Standard Time) >> From: Royce Mitchell III <ro...@ev...> >> To: rea...@li... >> Subject: Re: [ros-kernel] YAW: yet another windows (old project) >> Reply-To: rea...@li... >> >> That's the impression I got when I checked them out a few >> weeks ago. >> >> Royce3 >> >> > >> >Subject: [ros-kernel] YAW: yet another windows (old project) >> > From: "=?utf-8?Q?ea...@io...?=" <ea...@io...> >> > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:37:44 +0200 >> > To: rea...@li... >> > >> >SXMgaXQgYSBkZWFkIHByb2plY3Q/DQoNCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuaWNlLnJ1L3lhdy8= >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------------------------------- >> >This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek >> >Welcome to geek heaven. >> >http://thinkgeek.com/sf >> >_______________________________________________ >> >reactos-kernel mailing list >> >rea...@li... >> >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/reactos-kernel >> >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:08:06 -0400 >> To: rea...@li... >> From: "Thomas J. Hruska" <shi...@sh...> >> Subject: Re: [ros-kernel] YAW: yet another windows (old project) >> Reply-To: rea...@li... >> >> At 02:37 PM 7/17/2002 +0200, =?utf-8?Q?ea...@io...?= writeth: >> >SXMgaXQgYSBkZWFkIHByb2plY3Q/DQoNCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuaWNlLnJ1L3lhdy8= >> >> For those who can't read/speak/understand the Base64 language: >> ------------Start of Base64 Decode--------------- >> Is it a dead project? >> >> http://www.ice.ru/yaw/ >> -------------End of Base64 Decode---------------- >> >> Hope this helps! >> >> >> Thomas J. Hruska -- shi...@sh... >> Shining Light Productions -- "Meeting the needs of fellow programmers" >> http://www.shininglightpro.com/ >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:07:52 +0000 >> From: David Welch <we...@cw...> >> To: rea...@li... >> Subject: Re: [ros-kernel] finally got good stack trace... >> Reply-To: rea...@li... >> >> On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 10:26:26PM -0500, Royce Mitchell III wrote: >> > Any ideas? >> > >> Yes, ntoskrnl is an exception, just add 0xc0000000 to the printed >> address when using addr2line. I'm sorry figuring out where the kernel >> crashed >> can be such a bear. >> >> > It is still reporting div/0 by the way, and I have latest CVS... >> > >> Seems to be working here. >> >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:04:47 +0200 >> To: rea...@li... >> From: "KJK::Hyperion" <no...@li...> >> Subject: Re: [ros-kernel] The Explorer replacement we need. >> Reply-To: rea...@li... >> >> At 20.25 17/07/2002, you wrote: >> >Also wine has some bugs with its CxxFrameHandler >> >> what's this? >> >> >Dont get me wrong I am not oposed to a project to rewrite explorer.exe. >> >> and I'm not supporting such a project :-) Explorer isn't exactly the >> best >> desktop around, it's Shell32 that matters >> >> >1. It doesnt link to msvcp60.dll >> >> C++ runtime? whoa, it's big. It implements the STL, I see. We could use >> STLPort for this, it's the STL the OpenOffice guys are using, and it >> looks >> good (http://www.stlport.org/). The problem is that the DLL uses >> Microsoft's C++ name decoration. I started documenting their decoration >> scheme some time ago, but I can't find the BNF grammar I hacked together >> anymore. If you need help on adding this to g++, I can try >> reconstructing >> what I had found out >> >> >4. After only 1 day of work I can now compile 50% of geoShell under >> >mingw/gcc 3.1. I was working on litestep I would be banging my head >> in to >> >the wall right now. >> >> ;-) >> >> > > but was is usable? would you use it? I downloaded it >> > > and gave it a try, and >> > > my answer is ... >> >I was using it....the only real problem I had was the lack of >> Desktop Icons. >> >> me too. Anyway, what do you think of my idea of the desktop as an >> always-on-bottom bar with a Desktop widget in it? >> >> > > ... nope, geoshell is not ready for "prime time". It >> > > didn't even *work* for >> > > me. Some menus didn't open, some plugins behaved >> > > odd, some menus flickered. >> > > A disappointment >> >The only thig left that really bothers me is so bugs in minamizing the >> >geobars. >> >> I noticed a long series of bug and quirks, instead. The Favorites menu >> doesn't open (not that I really miss it, since I use Opera full-time). >> There's a duplicate Programs menu because I have a localized Windows >> and it >> was expecting the folder to be literally called "Programs". The "lock >> screen" doesn't lock the screen at all, it starts the screen saver. Some >> control panel applets had the wrong icon or caption. Some icons appeared >> shrunk. If you want a full bug report, I can reinstall geOShell >> >> >I agree adding stuff to the bars could be better... I think the size of >> >the default geObar doesnt help to much. >> >> that's why Office (and most programs with similar toolbars) has a >> separate >> dialog >> >> [...] >> >Come on dude how hard is it to rename the resources? >> >> I think you misunderstood me. I'm just pointing out usability problems. >> Mine is a designer's point of view, not a developer's. But if it's >> easy to >> solve, even better :-) >> >> [...] >> >I dont see why we couldnt implement this if we adopt R4. they are >> working >> >on R6 but are willing to help us if we do future development on R4 >> for ReactOS. >> >> again: it's not (strictly) a technical matter. I just want an opinion >> on my >> remarks: do they make sense to you? do you agree? anything to add? >> >> BTW, I didn't ask directly to the geOShell team because I was afraid >> they >> were a bit too "1337" to understand usability arguments (no offense >> meant, >> I just seem to have strange prejudices against IRC'ers) >> >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:50:23 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Steven Edwards <ste...@ya...> >> To: rea...@li... >> Subject: [ros-kernel] FW: Proposal - alt.os.reactos Discussion forum >> for the OpenSource WindowsNT/2K clone ReactOS >> Reply-To: rea...@li... >> >> Proposal - alt.os.reactos Discussion forum for the >> OpenSource WindowsNT/2K clone ReactOS >> >> CHARTER: alt.os.reactos discusses design and >> implementation of the ReactOS operating systems and >> its >> relation to the Microsoft Windows Operating Systems. >> Subjects will include but not be limited to >> device drivers, win32api support, the posix subsystem >> and license issues X11/BSD and GNU GPL/LGPL. >> >> The newsgroup will not be moderated. Binary, >> off-topic, spam and advertising posts are not >> permitted. >> Discussion of hacks, cracks, warez, serial numbers or >> the illegal exchange of copyrighted software is >> banned. >> >> JUSTIFICATION: A scan of messages in Google Groups in >> the 3 months from 5/17/98 to 7/17/98 showed >> *exactly* 1,010 relevant matches discussing ReactOS. >> ReactOS is the key topic of no less then 3 >> mailing lists and 2 web message boards and as such >> central repository such as a news group would be >> convenient. >> >> Thanks >> Steven Edwards >> >> -- >> "Every revolution was once a thought in one man's >> mind" >> - Ralph Waldo Emerson >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes >> http://autos.yahoo.com >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:52:11 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Steven Edwards <ste...@ya...> >> To: rea...@li... >> Subject: [ros-kernel] newsgroup >> Reply-To: rea...@li... >> >> I forgot to add that you can help by responding in >> alt.config to help show support. >> >> Thanks >> Steven >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes >> http://autos.yahoo.com >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:35:53 +0000 >> From: David Welch <we...@cw...> >> To: rea...@li... >> Subject: Re: [ros-kernel] newsgroup >> Reply-To: rea...@li... >> >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 11:52:11PM -0700, Steven Edwards wrote: >> > I forgot to add that you can help by responding in >> > alt.config to help show support. >> > >> Do we really need a newsgroup? I don't see a lot of discussion of >> ReactOS on usenet and we could always use alt.os.development. >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 01:53:29 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Steven Edwards <ste...@ya...> >> Subject: Re: [ros-kernel] newsgroup >> To: rea...@li... >> Reply-To: rea...@li... >> >> I guess/hope not now. I forgot about the sig. juliet >> uses and that showed up a 1000 times and got flamed >> for it. Cancel the request as I have killed the thread >> and probly pissed everyone off anyway. =P What a bunch >> of nice people there are on usenet. >> >> Thanks >> Steven >> >> > Do we really need a newsgroup? I don't see a lot of >> > discussion of >> > ReactOS on usenet and we could always use >> > alt.os.development. >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes >> http://autos.yahoo.com >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 10 >> From: "Eric Kohl" <ek...@rz...> >> To: <rea...@li...> >> Subject: Re: [ros-kernel] finally got good stack trace... >> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:04:03 +0200 >> Reply-To: rea...@li... >> >> "Royce Mitchell III" <ro...@ev...> wrote: >> >> > I put a bunch of DbgPrint's all over that function last night, and >> didn't >> > see any of them on-screen... >> >> Please try a clean rebuild of the current CVS tree. David fixed some >> severe >> bugs and I got my 9 year old Seagate ST3144A (130 MB) running which >> reported >> 576 byte sectors. ;-) >> >> Eric >> >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 11 >> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:44:08 -0600 (Central Standard Time) >> From: Royce Mitchell III <ro...@ev...> >> To: rea...@li... >> Subject: Re: [ros-kernel] finally got good stack trace... >> Reply-To: rea...@li... >> >> I can't wait to try! >> >> /me rubbing hands with glee >> >> :) >> >> Royce3 >> >> > >> >Subject: Re: [ros-kernel] finally got good stack trace... >> > From: "Eric Kohl" <ek...@rz...> >> > Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:04:03 +0200 >> > To: <rea...@li...> >> > >> >"Royce Mitchell III" <ro...@ev...> wrote: >> > >> >> I put a bunch of DbgPrint's all over that function last night, and >> didn't >> >> see any of them on-screen... >> > >> >Please try a clean rebuild of the current CVS tree. David fixed some >> severe >> >bugs and I got my 9 year old Seagate ST3144A (130 MB) running which >> reported >> >576 byte sectors. ;-) >> > >> >Eric >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------------------------------- >> >This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek >> >Welcome to geek heaven. >> >http://thinkgeek.com/sf >> >_______________________________________________ >> >reactos-kernel mailing list >> >rea...@li... >> >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/reactos-kernel >> >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 12 >> From: "Nick Date" <nic...@ya...> >> To: <rea...@li...> >> Subject: Re: [ros-kernel] The Explorer replacement we need. >> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:28:43 +0100 >> Reply-To: rea...@li... >> >> Hiya. >> >> Sorry to step in after being away for so long (my life's up in the >> air at >> the moment to say the least). >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "KJK::Hyperion" <no...@li...> >> To: <rea...@li...> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [ros-kernel] The Explorer replacement we need. >> >> >> > At 20.25 17/07/2002, you wrote: >> >> > >Dont get me wrong I am not oposed to a project to rewrite >> explorer.exe. >> >> > and I'm not supporting such a project :-) Explorer isn't exactly >> the best >> > desktop around, it's Shell32 that matters >> >> [snip] >> >> You're right of course, but I think it would be nice to have a shell >> with a >> windoze-a-like feel to it. End users hate change of any sort and a >> familiar(ish) interface would probably stop them having a heart >> attack, or >> mental breakdown or whatever. ;-) >> >> Hi to everyone and sorry I'm not active in the message lists at the >> moment. >> I've got a new job starting on monday (warehouse work at a plumbing >> merchants) so things should start to pick up and I'll have more free >> time to >> keep up with the project. >> >> Best regards. >> >> Nick. >> >> -- >> Nick Date >> Bath, England, UK >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Everything you'll ever need on one web page >> from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts >> http://uk.my.yahoo.comm >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 13 >> From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?H=E1morszky_Bal=E1zs?= <ba...@cr...> >> To: rea...@li... >> Subject: Re: [ros-kernel] The Explorer replacement we need. >> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:11:53 +0200 >> Reply-To: rea...@li... >> >> >> Take two look: >> http://www.geoshellx.com/userguide.asp?doc=desktop.inc >> http://www.geoshellx.com/plugins/r48/geoDeskInstaller_1_0.exe >> >> >> >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> reactos-kernel mailing list >> rea...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/reactos-kernel >> >> >> End of reactos-kernel Digest > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > reactos-kernel mailing list > rea...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/reactos-kernel |
