[ros-general] Remote desktops

[Casper H. <ch...@us...>]

Moving to reactos-general...

man, 2002-06-03 kl. 11:39 skrev Joachim Breuer:
> Casper Hornstrup <ch...@us...> writes:
> > Something similar can be accomplished with Windows XP's remote desktop.
> > You connect to foo from your client. You then get your desktop like you
> > would have logged on to foo locally.
> 
> That's one other point of 'conceptual divergence' I have with win32: I
> do not want to redirect a whole desktop just to make 3 clicks in an
> admin application which should really have a (convenient) gui-less
> interface as well, anyway... Just my opinion.
> 
> For me, it is easier and less time consuming to do
>   ssh root@wedgedbox -c \
>     "killall -TERM sendmail; sleep 10; killall -KILL sendmail; \
>      sleep 5; /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail restart"
> than
>   vnc -bla -blo winbox / Terminal Services / ...
>   [login]
>   [start control app, TaskMan, whatever]
>   [click, clack, cluck]
>   [logout]
> 

Yes, that is certainly faster. I think Windows XP's Remote Desktop
feature was designed for tech support. Users can request technical
support from their system administrator. Normally the administrator
would then trow everything in his hands away and run down to the user to
offer his assistance ;-) With remote Remote Desktop the administrator
can connect to the user's machine remotely and guide the user through
whatever the user was trying to do (and have the user look at what the
administrator is doing).

> The point being that I can run the ssh command and then do something
> else, maybe check on its output a minute later, whereas desktop
> redirection requires me to actually "use" a GUI tunneled through a
> (usually) high-latency line - and that always sucks. I do not
> particularly care for X, but ssh/X-Forwarding is still handling single
> X apps at least a bit more gracefully than the Win remote desktop
> stuff I've seen so far. And I don't see much of a point of running the
> whole desktop remotely - although I do find it useful to be able to do
> so to "help" customers or check up their account settings (autostart,
> program icons/links, ...)
> 
> "Remotely" for me as used above is "beyond a WAN" - running remote
> desktops on a LAN is something I regularly do, where X still feels
> more 'local' than Terminal Services to me.
> 
> Again, today *ix gives me a choice: ssh command line, ssh X-Forwarding
> of single apps, VNC for the complete desktop.
> 
> 
> So long,
>    Joe

I have a 400MHz server running Linux Mandrake 8.1 and my 700MHz laptop
has the same OS. I don't use Remote X to administer the server because
it is too difficult. I would like to see the server desktop on my laptop
in a window, but this is not possible with X or with Windows XP's Remote
Desktop. That way I can just minimize the window when I need access to
my laptop. If I want to see the server desktop on my laptop, I need to
logout and restart X to connect to the server. This is a pain in the ass
to do so I don't do this. If I start a single graphical application
remotely on the server it takes too long to come up on the screen of my
laptop (ssh2/100Mbit Ethernet). kwrite (a simple text editor) takes
about 11 seconds. I'm too impatient for this so I usually use vim
instead.

- Casper