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From: <as...@ce...> - 2006-01-31 12:19:32
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For Immediate Release 2006-Jan-30 Linköping, Sweden - Jan 30. 2006 -- Cendio AB has uncovered a GPL violation by 2X Software Ltd, a UK based company selling thin-client products. 2X violates the GPL by not providing source code to two of its products LinRDP and DOSRDP. These former products were acquired into 2X Software Ltd when it merged with Terminal-Services.net, and although they are not advertised on 2X' web site, the GPL demands that the source code is made available up to 3 years after they are released (GPL, paragraph 3b). LinRDP and DOSRDP are derived from rdesktop, an application that allows users on Linux and UNIX to connect to Windows using the RDP protocol. rdesktop is covered by the GPL license, which allows vendors to extend and market applications that are covered by it. However it also requires the vendor to provide the full corresponding source code and a copy of the full license text. The rdesktop team discovered the GPL violation more than 2 years ago. Cendio AB, the vendor of the thin client product ThinLinc, has been in constant communication with 2X Software Ltd during the last 3 months without being able to come to a fruitful resolution. Instead, Terminal-Services.net and then later 2X Software Ltd has refused to provide the source code to LinRDP and DOSRDP although they build upon rdesktop (see http://www.cendio.com/linrdp-dosrdp/ for proof). Peo Moosberg, the CEO of Cendio AB says: "Despite being in contact with 2X Software Ltd for a long time, we have not been able to resolve this issue. It's sad to see that players like 2X Software Ltd don't play by the rules. This will undermine the community and make it harder for the honest companies to continue to deliver their products and services." Cendio AB has contributed a number of features and extensions to rdesktop, among them improved support for national keyboards, support for sound and support for cut & paste. Two of the developers at Cendio AB are part of the rdesktop core team. About Cendio AB --------------- Cendio AB, a Swedish privately owned company, is a leading vendor for thin-client solutions based on Linux and Open Source. Cendio AB develops and markets ThinLinc and has contributed code to a number of open source projects, among them rdesktop, TightVNC, hiveconf, Esound, Wine, Python and UNFS3. About 2X Software Ltd --------------------- 2X Software Ltd is a UK based, privately owned company developing software for the server-based computing market. 2X develops and markets 2X ThinClientServer for Windows and Linux. Contact ------- For more information, please contact our Chief Developer: Peter Åstrand Telephone: +46 (0)13 - 21 46 00 E-mail: pet...@ce... References ---------- 2X Software Ltd: http://www.2x.com/ rdesktop: http://www.rdesktop.org/ ThinLinc: http://www.cendio.com/products/thinlinc -- Peter Åstrand ThinLinc Chief Developer Cendio www.cendio.se Teknikringen 3 583 30 Linköping Phone: +46-13-21 46 00 |
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From: Raphael B. E. V. <ra...@2x...> - 2006-01-31 13:30:06
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2X has indeed been in communication with Cendio. We have received 1 email in November and sent our due reply, as well as had a phone call with Per. Beyond that, no further communication was received from Cendio. There was most definitely no 'constant communication' and no written communication either. =46act of the matter is, that it was made clear to Cendio, that 2X does not maintain, nor market the DOSrdp and Linrdp products and does not currently have access to the source code. After that communication nothing was heared from Cendio. It is clear that Cendio is trying to put its competitors in a bad light under the 'GPL' banner. 2X objects to this kind of 'self promotion'. Its sad to see a company trying to compete in this under hand manner. Notwithstanding, 2X has conctacted Terminalsoft for a response to the matter and requested they obtain the source code to Linrdp and publish it as per the GPL. Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti 2X - www.2x.com Developers of Thin client computing software 2X ThinClientServer - Appserver - LoadBalancer - SecureRDP On Tuesday 31 January 2006 13:19, Peter =C5strand wrote: > For Immediate Release > > 2006-Jan-30 > > Link=F6ping, Sweden - Jan 30. 2006 -- Cendio AB has uncovered a GPL > violation by 2X Software Ltd, a UK based company selling thin-client > products. 2X violates the GPL by not providing source code to two of > its products LinRDP and DOSRDP. > > These former products were acquired into 2X Software Ltd when it > merged with Terminal-Services.net, and although they are not > advertised on 2X' web site, the GPL demands that the source code is > made available up to 3 years after they are released (GPL, paragraph > 3b). > > LinRDP and DOSRDP are derived from rdesktop, an application that > allows users on Linux and UNIX to connect to Windows using the RDP > protocol. rdesktop is covered by the GPL license, which allows > vendors to extend and market applications that are covered by it. > However it also requires the vendor to provide the full corresponding > source code and a copy of the full license text. > > The rdesktop team discovered the GPL violation more than 2 years ago. > Cendio AB, the vendor of the thin client product ThinLinc, has been in > constant communication with 2X Software Ltd during the last 3 months > without being able to come to a fruitful resolution. Instead, > Terminal-Services.net and then later 2X Software Ltd has refused to > provide the source code to LinRDP and DOSRDP although they build upon > rdesktop (see http://www.cendio.com/linrdp-dosrdp/ for proof). > > Peo Moosberg, the CEO of Cendio AB says: "Despite being in contact > with 2X Software Ltd for a long time, we have not been able to resolve > this issue. It's sad to see that players like 2X Software Ltd don't > play by the rules. This will undermine the community and make it > harder for the honest companies to continue to deliver their products > and services." > > Cendio AB has contributed a number of features and extensions to > rdesktop, among them improved support for national keyboards, support > for sound and support for cut & paste. Two of the developers at > Cendio AB are part of the rdesktop core team. > > > About Cendio AB > --------------- > > Cendio AB, a Swedish privately owned company, is a leading vendor for > thin-client solutions based on Linux and Open Source. Cendio AB > develops and markets ThinLinc and has contributed code to a number of > open source projects, among them rdesktop, TightVNC, hiveconf, Esound, > Wine, Python and UNFS3. > > > About 2X Software Ltd > --------------------- > > 2X Software Ltd is a UK based, privately owned company developing > software for the server-based computing market. 2X develops and > markets 2X ThinClientServer for Windows and Linux. > > > Contact > ------- > For more information, please contact our Chief Developer: > > Peter =C5strand > Telephone: +46 (0)13 - 21 46 00 > E-mail: pet...@ce... > > > References > ---------- > > 2X Software Ltd: http://www.2x.com/ > rdesktop: http://www.rdesktop.org/ > ThinLinc: http://www.cendio.com/products/thinlinc |
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From: Raphael B. E. V. <ra...@2x...> - 2006-01-31 14:44:54
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No, we don't distribute DOSrdp, nor LINrdp. We never have either. DOSrdp & LINrdp were developed by a company called Terminalsoft, based in China. This was clearly explained to Cendio. Go to our website at http://www.2x.com and you can clearly see for yourself we don't distribute them. You will also see that on of our products, 2X ThinClientServer, competes with Cendio's ThinLinc product. I think this explains a lot. In 2003, they sold some of their work to a company called Terminal-Services.NET. From this company we acquired 2 products - an application server, which allows Windows applications to be tunneled onto remote desktops and a Load Balancer - which allows RDP/ICA connections to be balanced over Terminal Services/Citrix servers. As mentioned in our previous email, we have contacted Terminalsoft developers and requested an official response and the source code in accordance with GPL. Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti 2X - www.2x.com Developers of Thin client computing software 2X ThinClientServer - Appserver - LoadBalancer - SecureRDP On Tuesday 31 January 2006 14:47, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Hi, > > do you distribute LinRDP or DOSRDP? If so, you cannot claim you did not > get the source code. If you distribute the programs, you have the > obligation to send the source code upon request. Yes, that means you have > to get the source code first. > > Hth, > Dscho |
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From: <as...@ce...> - 2006-01-31 14:50:08
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti wrote: Please, discussions like these does not belong to the rdesktop-announce mailing list. Use rdesktop-users instead. (Also, I don't think LWN is interested in this entire thread.) Regards, -- Peter Åstrand ThinLinc Chief Developer Cendio www.cendio.se Teknikringen 3 583 30 Linköping Phone: +46-13-21 46 00 |
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From: Ken B. <ke...@gm...> - 2006-02-01 03:55:41
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Please, continue this discussion in public. Regards, KenB On 1/31/06, Peter =C5strand <as...@ce...> wrote: > > On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti wrote: > > Please, discussions like these does not belong to the rdesktop-announce > mailing list. Use rdesktop-users instead. (Also, I don't think LWN is > interested in this entire thread.) > > Regards, > -- > Peter =C5strand ThinLinc Chief Developer > Cendio www.cendio.se > Teknikringen 3 > 583 30 Link=F6ping Phone: +46-13-21 46 00 > |
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From: David <in...@te...> - 2006-02-01 16:57:20
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