razor-users

[Razor-users] Help

[Willo M. <wi...@ma...>]

Hello,


My name is Willo Marchais, representing Malucette. 

We recently discovered that our emails are being flagged by Razor2, which is affecting our ability to communicate effectively with our customers.

We take spam issues very seriously and are committed to adhering to best practices in email marketing. We would be grateful if you could review our status in your database and provide us with information on why we were included. We are willing to take any necessary steps to comply with your requirements and resolve this issue promptly.

Here are the details of our domain:

Domain: malucette.com
Email : he...@ma... 
We are sending with Klaviyo
Thank you for your assistance and understanding.

Best regards,





Willo MArchais

Founder and CEO 

Malucette

0695766743

[Razor-users] A Little Help for a newbie

[Stephen S. <ste...@gm...>]

I've never heard of Vipul's Razor and I just received a spam report of from
an email sent froy marketing email server of :
-2.43 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 Razor2 gives confidence level above 50%
cf: 100
-1.729 RAZOR2_CHECK Listed in Razor2 (http://razor.sf.net/)
And I have no idea what that means.

Any Help??



-- 
Stephen Sunderlin
212-799-3753
ste...@gm...

Re: [Razor-users] (no subject)

[maxal <mn...@sb...>]

hi matus,

this list is quite dead and 
https://sourceforge.net/p/razor/support-requests too. 

as razor is owned by cloudmark now you can try a ticket via 

https://cloudmark.com/en/support/cloudmark-authority

kind regards
max

On Thu, 2019-03-21 at 09:21 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> for about a week, we ocasionally get messages from our cron:
> 
> razor2: razor2 check failed:  razor2: razor2 had unknown error during
> get_server_info at
> /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Razor2.pm line 186,
> <GEN3> line 1. at /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Razor2.pm
> line 329.
> 
> trying to debug the issue I found out that razor-discover sometimes
> fails:
> 
> uhlar@fantomas% razor-admin -discover
> uhlar@fantomas% razor-admin -discover
> uhlar@fantomas% razor-admin -discover
> nextserver: Bootstrap discovery failed. Giving up.
> Exit 2
> uhlar@fantomas%
> 
> is there a problem with any of the razor servers?
> 
> I was able to capture two such conversations and got following:
> 
> ---- problem conversation start
> 
> Follow: tcp,ascii
> Filter: tcp.stream eq 2
> Node 0: 192.168.x.x:44341
> Node 1: 208.83.139.205:2703
>         25
> sn=C&srl=43830&a=l&a=cg
> 
> 12
> a=g&pm=csl
> 
>         9
> err=240
> 
> 12
> a=g&pm=nsl
> 
>         9
> err=240
> 
> ---- problem conversation end
> 
> ---- OK conversation start
> 
> Follow: tcp,ascii
> Filter: tcp.stream eq 2
> Node 0: 192.168.x.x:49615
> Node 1: 208.83.137.117:2703
>         23
> sn=D&srl=670&a=l&a=cg
> 
> 12
> a=g&pm=csl
> 
>         71
> -csl=?
> c302.cloudmark.com
> c303.cloudmark.com
> c301.cloudmark.com
> .
> 
> 12
> a=g&pm=nsl
> 
>         91
> -nsl=?
> n001.cloudmark.com
> n003.cloudmark.com
> n002.cloudmark.com
> n004.cloudmark.com
> .
> 
> 5
> a=q
> 
> ---- OK conversation end
> 

[Razor-users] (no subject)

[Matus U. - f. <uh...@fa...>]

Hello,

for about a week, we ocasionally get messages from our cron:

razor2: razor2 check failed:  razor2: razor2 had unknown error during
get_server_info at /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Razor2.pm line 186,
<GEN3> line 1. at /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Razor2.pm line 329.

trying to debug the issue I found out that razor-discover sometimes fails:

uhlar@fantomas% razor-admin -discover
uhlar@fantomas% razor-admin -discover
uhlar@fantomas% razor-admin -discover
nextserver: Bootstrap discovery failed. Giving up.
Exit 2
uhlar@fantomas%

is there a problem with any of the razor servers?

I was able to capture two such conversations and got following:

---- problem conversation start

Follow: tcp,ascii
Filter: tcp.stream eq 2
Node 0: 192.168.x.x:44341
Node 1: 208.83.139.205:2703
        25
sn=C&srl=43830&a=l&a=cg

12
a=g&pm=csl

        9
err=240

12
a=g&pm=nsl

        9
err=240

---- problem conversation end

---- OK conversation start

Follow: tcp,ascii
Filter: tcp.stream eq 2
Node 0: 192.168.x.x:49615
Node 1: 208.83.137.117:2703
        23
sn=D&srl=670&a=l&a=cg

12
a=g&pm=csl

        71
-csl=?
c302.cloudmark.com
c303.cloudmark.com
c301.cloudmark.com
.

12
a=g&pm=nsl

        91
-nsl=?
n001.cloudmark.com
n003.cloudmark.com
n002.cloudmark.com
n004.cloudmark.com
.

5
a=q

---- OK conversation end

-- 
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Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address.
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in first quarter of year 1901

[Razor-users] What das "err 221" mean?

[David S. <dav...@en...>]

Dear razor users,

since three month I'm using razor together with amavis to identify spam. To contribute to this project and make the spam detection better I want to report the mails which got not detected by using the razor-report command line utility.
For informal reasons I run the report in verbose mode (-d switch). For some emails the razor server reports " report: mail 1, 0: Server accepted report" which looks to me that the email was successfully reported as spam.
But in 99% of the cases I get the error 221:

mail 1.0, eng 8: got err 221 for query:
 HASH - HASH(0x1285ba8),3 keys
    a => r
    e => 8
    s => ARRAY - ARRAY(0x11a9608),3 items
        Ddy6Pd75oDcA
        WrIEdpzWoDcA
        t7JW3jJLoDcA

So I suppose that the email is not reported nor recognized as spam.
Is that right?
What does err 221 mean and why does it appear?
What can I do to successfully report the email?

Cheers.

David

Re: [Razor-users] Progress on bugs opened against Razor

[Philip P. <phi...@re...>]

Giving a nudge…


> On May 30, 2018, at 8:14 PM, Todd Rinaldo <to...@ri...> wrote:
> 
> Probably within a week.
> 
> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 8:58 PM, Philip Prindeville
> <phi...@re...> wrote:
>> Is there a schedule or criteria for the next release?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2018, at 11:50 PM, Todd Rinaldo <to...@ri...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm going to go ahead and declare this project dead in sourceforge.
>>> Within reason, I will accept and merge all pull requests at:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/toddr/Razor2-Client-Agent/pulls
>>> 
>>> and feel free to port any issues here:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/toddr/Razor2-Client-Agent/issues
>>> 
>>> Todd
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Philip Prindeville
>>> <phi...@re...> wrote:
>>>> Hi.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m looking at the scoreboard for bugs on Razor:
>>>> 
>>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/razor/bugs/search/?q=%21status%3Aclosed-invalid+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-later+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-duplicate+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-out-of-date+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-accepted+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-works-for-me+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-wont-fix+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-fixed
>>>> 
>>>> and noticing that some bugs are more than 10 years old, indeed the majority are 8 years or older.
>>>> 
>>>> I opened one in February with a fix attached:
>>>> 
>>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/razor/bugs/69/
>>>> 
>>>> and I was hoping that because it’s relatively trivial, has a fix, and is easy to test thing might get handled a little more quickly but that’s not the case.
>>>> 
>>>> What do I need to help carry it across the goal line?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> -Philip
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Razor-users mailing list
>>>> Raz...@li...
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Todd Rinaldo
>>> to...@ri...
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Todd Rinaldo
> to...@ri...

Re: [Razor-users] Progress on bugs opened against Razor

[Todd R. <to...@ri...>]

Probably within a week.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 8:58 PM, Philip Prindeville
<phi...@re...> wrote:
> Is there a schedule or criteria for the next release?
>
>
>
>> On May 24, 2018, at 11:50 PM, Todd Rinaldo <to...@ri...> wrote:
>>
>> I'm going to go ahead and declare this project dead in sourceforge.
>> Within reason, I will accept and merge all pull requests at:
>>
>> https://github.com/toddr/Razor2-Client-Agent/pulls
>>
>> and feel free to port any issues here:
>>
>> https://github.com/toddr/Razor2-Client-Agent/issues
>>
>> Todd
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Philip Prindeville
>> <phi...@re...> wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> I’m looking at the scoreboard for bugs on Razor:
>>>
>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/razor/bugs/search/?q=%21status%3Aclosed-invalid+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-later+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-duplicate+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-out-of-date+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-accepted+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-works-for-me+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-wont-fix+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-fixed
>>>
>>> and noticing that some bugs are more than 10 years old, indeed the majority are 8 years or older.
>>>
>>> I opened one in February with a fix attached:
>>>
>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/razor/bugs/69/
>>>
>>> and I was hoping that because it’s relatively trivial, has a fix, and is easy to test thing might get handled a little more quickly but that’s not the case.
>>>
>>> What do I need to help carry it across the goal line?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -Philip
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Razor-users mailing list
>>> Raz...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Todd Rinaldo
>> to...@ri...
>



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to...@ri...

Re: [Razor-users] Progress on bugs opened against Razor

[Philip P. <phi...@re...>]

Awesome, thanks.


> On May 30, 2018, at 8:06 PM, Todd Rinaldo <to...@ri...> wrote:
> 
> Probably within a week.
> 
> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 8:58 PM, Philip Prindeville
> <phi...@re...> wrote:
>> Is there a schedule or criteria for the next release?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2018, at 11:50 PM, Todd Rinaldo <to...@ri...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm going to go ahead and declare this project dead in sourceforge.
>>> Within reason, I will accept and merge all pull requests at:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/toddr/Razor2-Client-Agent/pulls
>>> 
>>> and feel free to port any issues here:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/toddr/Razor2-Client-Agent/issues
>>> 
>>> Todd
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Philip Prindeville
>>> <phi...@re...> wrote:
>>>> Hi.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m looking at the scoreboard for bugs on Razor:
>>>> 
>>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/razor/bugs/search/?q=%21status%3Aclosed-invalid+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-later+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-duplicate+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-out-of-date+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-accepted+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-works-for-me+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-wont-fix+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-fixed
>>>> 
>>>> and noticing that some bugs are more than 10 years old, indeed the majority are 8 years or older.
>>>> 
>>>> I opened one in February with a fix attached:
>>>> 
>>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/razor/bugs/69/
>>>> 
>>>> and I was hoping that because it’s relatively trivial, has a fix, and is easy to test thing might get handled a little more quickly but that’s not the case.
>>>> 
>>>> What do I need to help carry it across the goal line?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> -Philip
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Razor-users mailing list
>>>> Raz...@li...
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Todd Rinaldo
>>> to...@ri...
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Todd Rinaldo
> to...@ri...

Re: [Razor-users] Progress on bugs opened against Razor

[Philip P. <phi...@re...>]

Is there a schedule or criteria for the next release?



> On May 24, 2018, at 11:50 PM, Todd Rinaldo <to...@ri...> wrote:
> 
> I'm going to go ahead and declare this project dead in sourceforge.
> Within reason, I will accept and merge all pull requests at:
> 
> https://github.com/toddr/Razor2-Client-Agent/pulls
> 
> and feel free to port any issues here:
> 
> https://github.com/toddr/Razor2-Client-Agent/issues
> 
> Todd
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Philip Prindeville
> <phi...@re...> wrote:
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I’m looking at the scoreboard for bugs on Razor:
>> 
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/razor/bugs/search/?q=%21status%3Aclosed-invalid+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-later+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-duplicate+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-out-of-date+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-accepted+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-works-for-me+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-wont-fix+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-fixed
>> 
>> and noticing that some bugs are more than 10 years old, indeed the majority are 8 years or older.
>> 
>> I opened one in February with a fix attached:
>> 
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/razor/bugs/69/
>> 
>> and I was hoping that because it’s relatively trivial, has a fix, and is easy to test thing might get handled a little more quickly but that’s not the case.
>> 
>> What do I need to help carry it across the goal line?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> -Philip
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
>> _______________________________________________
>> Razor-users mailing list
>> Raz...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Todd Rinaldo
> to...@ri...

Re: [Razor-users] Progress on bugs opened against Razor

[Philip P. <phi...@re...>]

Done.

https://github.com/toddr/Razor2-Client-Agent/pull/4

Thanks



> On May 24, 2018, at 11:50 PM, Todd Rinaldo <to...@ri...> wrote:
> 
> I'm going to go ahead and declare this project dead in sourceforge.
> Within reason, I will accept and merge all pull requests at:
> 
> https://github.com/toddr/Razor2-Client-Agent/pulls
> 
> and feel free to port any issues here:
> 
> https://github.com/toddr/Razor2-Client-Agent/issues
> 
> Todd
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Philip Prindeville
> <phi...@re...> wrote:
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I’m looking at the scoreboard for bugs on Razor:
>> 
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/razor/bugs/search/?q=%21status%3Aclosed-invalid+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-later+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-duplicate+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-out-of-date+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-accepted+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-works-for-me+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-wont-fix+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-fixed
>> 
>> and noticing that some bugs are more than 10 years old, indeed the majority are 8 years or older.
>> 
>> I opened one in February with a fix attached:
>> 
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/razor/bugs/69/
>> 
>> and I was hoping that because it’s relatively trivial, has a fix, and is easy to test thing might get handled a little more quickly but that’s not the case.
>> 
>> What do I need to help carry it across the goal line?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> -Philip
>> 

[Razor-users] Progress on bugs opened against Razor

[Philip P. <phi...@re...>]

Hi.

I’m looking at the scoreboard for bugs on Razor:

https://sourceforge.net/p/razor/bugs/search/?q=%21status%3Aclosed-invalid+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-later+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-duplicate+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-out-of-date+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-accepted+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-works-for-me+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-wont-fix+%26%26+%21status%3Aclosed-fixed

and noticing that some bugs are more than 10 years old, indeed the majority are 8 years or older.

I opened one in February with a fix attached:

https://sourceforge.net/p/razor/bugs/69/

and I was hoping that because it’s relatively trivial, has a fix, and is easy to test thing might get handled a little more quickly but that’s not the case.

What do I need to help carry it across the goal line?

Thanks,

-Philip

Re: [Razor-users] mail-tester.com

[<abs...@li...>]

Hi shanew, which ports should I allow through my firewall, in order to make razor-check contact server correctly?

Thank you!



> Il 13 giugno 2017 alle 23.12 sh...@sh... ha scritto:
>
>
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2017, dontexit via Razor-users wrote:
>
> > I just tested my newsletter with https://www.mail-tester.com/
> > It seems that some negative score is related to razor:
> >
> > -2.43 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100
> > -1.79 RAZOR2_CHECK
> >
> > How can I understand those tests? How can I improve razor reputation?
>
> First, it's important to be aware that razor scores the content of
> emails (I'm fuzzing over the technical details). It is not looking at
> your network reputation, whether you're on blacklists, etc. That's
> some other tool's job.
>
> To get more details, you could install razor and then do a
> razor-check, which would give you more detail on what's causing that
> mail to be scored as it is. Alternately, you could post the full
> email, with headers, to some place like paste-bin, then share it with
> the list and hope someone takes the time to check it for you.
>
>
> --
> Public key #7BBC68D9 at | Shane Williams
> http://pgp.mit.edu/ | System Admin - UT CompSci
> =----------------------------------+-------------------------------
> All syllogisms contain three lines | sh...@sh...
> Therefore this is not a syllogism | www.ischool.utexas.edu/~shanew------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users

Re: [Razor-users] FW: mail-tester.com

[<sh...@sh...>]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2017, Scott Chandler wrote:

> You can check the reputation of the IP address of your email server. I don’t
> know if having a good or bad reputation here affect the razor score

Razor score is determined based on the content of the email.  IP or
domain name reputation have no impact.


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Re: [Razor-users] mail-tester.com

[<sh...@sh...>]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2017, dontexit via Razor-users wrote:

> I just tested my newsletter with https://www.mail-tester.com/
> It seems that some negative score is related to razor:
> 
> -2.43 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100
> -1.79 RAZOR2_CHECK
> 
> How can I understand those tests? How can I improve razor reputation?

First, it's important to be aware that razor scores the content of
emails (I'm fuzzing over the technical details).  It is not looking at
your network reputation, whether you're on blacklists, etc.  That's
some other tool's job.

To get more details, you could install razor and then do a
razor-check, which would give you more detail on what's causing that
mail to be scored as it is.  Alternately, you could post the full
email, with headers, to some place like paste-bin, then share it with
the list and hope someone takes the time to check it for you.


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[Razor-users] FW: mail-tester.com

[Scott C. <sch...@co...>]

You could register a computer system that has the razor software installed. Then use the razor-admin to get yourself an account. I think you can razor-revoke on your emails to tell the system that each of the emails you send out is NOT spam. Of course you have to build up your account because it is based on user reputation. Your sending an email into the razor system marked as NOT spam might help decrease the systems scoring of your emails but if the people who are reporting your emails as spam have very good reputations, it may not help much. Other than that, I can’t think of any other things you can try other than make sure that you are using clean mailing lists, your emails conform to the CAN AM Spam Act. Make sure the emails are clean and easy to opt out of. Honor the opt outs. I run an email server and I only report emails to the razor system if they are obvious spam, have no opt out, don’t comply with the CAN AM Spam Act, don’t have a business address or have gibberish at the bottom that tries to fool and poison bayesian filter systems.

 

You can check the reputation of the IP address of your email server. I don’t know if having a good or bad reputation here affect the razor score but everything helps. If your email server is at a hosted site, and a lot of the IP’s come up “poor”, you might need to change hosting providers. I have pools of IP’s that get automatically quarantined because the hosting companies literally don’t care that their customers spam in mass. As long as they make their money, they don’t care. Customers that are trying to be legitimate at these hosting sites literally have no chance of their emails getting through to many people.

https://talosintelligence.com/reputation_center

 

Hope this helps. If I am in error on my stuff, anyone is free to correct my statement.

 

 

 

From: dontexit via Razor-users [mailto:raz...@li...] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:56 AM
To: raz...@li...
Subject: [Razor-users] mail-tester.com

 

Hi all,

I just tested my newsletter with https://www.mail-tester.com/

It seems that some negative score is related to razor:

 

-2.43 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100

-1.79 RAZOR2_CHECK

How can I understand those tests? How can I improve razor reputation?

Thank you!

[Razor-users] mail-tester.com

[<abs...@li...>]

Hi all,

I just tested my newsletter with https://www.mail-tester.com/

It seems that some negative score is related to razor:


-2.43 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100

-1.79 RAZOR2_CHECK

How can I understand those tests? How can I improve razor reputation?

Thank you!

Re: [Razor-users] Newbie Help Needed

[<sh...@sh...>]

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017, Thczv F. Thczv wrote:

> Nonetheless, when I run razor-report, I keep getting this error:
> 
> Bootstrap Error: Your Razor2 identity was not found.
>      If you haven't registered, please do so:
>      "razor-admin -register -user=[name/email_address] -pass=[password]".
>      (Further information can be found in the razor-admin(1) manpage)
>   If you did register, please ensure your identity symlink (or file) is in o
> rder.

Dave,

One possiblity if you followed that guide is that the identity file is
saved one place and when you run razor-report it's looking in a
different spot.  When you run razor-report are you running it as
yourself?  And if so, are you using any options?

what does "ls -l /etc/mail/spamassassin/.razor" return?

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Re: [Razor-users] False positives

[<sh...@sh...>]

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017, Robert Boyl wrote:

> I tried to report false positives to Razor, but it won't accept.
> 
> In our system, headers are still being added after the message has been
> analyzed by Razor, so when you run the checksum on the complete message, you
> don't get the same result as when Razor first analyzed it
> 
> Ideas how to solve?

First, keep in mind that your ability to revoke messages depends in
part on your reputation in the Razor system.  If you have only
reported a few emails or you've reported/revoked contrary to other
reporters, you may not have enough reputation to change how Razor
classifies it.

Assuming that's not the case, how are you trying to revoke the message
(piping it directly to razor-revoke, using spamassassin's -k option,
etc.)?


Second, I was under the impression that razor doesn't use headers when
calculating checksums (it certainly doesn't for some of them), and in
local testing I've been unable to change the headers of an email in
such a way that it returns a different hash.  What sort of headers
are being added that it leads to a different hash?  Or is it that your
mail system is altering the body in some way?


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Re: [Razor-users] False positives

[maxal <mn...@sb...>]

hi rob,

On Tue, 2017-01-24 at 13:09 -0200, Robert Boyl wrote:
> Hi, everyone
> 
> I tried to report false positives to Razor, but it won't accept.

revoking in general works fine via 

razor-revoke -f -d /mail (if not registered use 'razor-admin -create'
to create a default config in /etc/razor/razor-agent.conf followed by
'razor-admin -register -user=foo -pass=bar')

snip from log

Jan 25 12:09:18.078340 revoke[36988]: [ 5] revoke: mail 1, 3: Server
accepted report.
Jan 25 12:09:18.078380 revoke[36988]: [ 3] Sent revoke.
Jan 25 12:09:18.078414 revoke[36988]: [ 5] disconnecting from server
n002.cloudmark.com
Jan 25 12:09:18.078483 revoke[36988]: [ 4] n002.cloudmark.com << 5
Jan 25 12:09:18.078512 revoke[36988]: [ 6] a=q
Jan 25 12:09:18.078614 revoke[36988]: [ 8] razor-revoke finished
successfully.

> 
> In our system, headers are still being added after the message has
> been analyzed by Razor, so when you run the checksum on the complete
> message, you don't get the same result as when Razor first analyzed
> it
> 
> Ideas how to solve?
> 
> Also, where can I see statistics of Razor2 efficiency?

for a single mail you can use

spamassassin -t -D razor2 < /mail

or have a look at razors debug output

razor-check -d /mail

kind regards
max



> 
> Thanks,
> Rob
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[Razor-users] False positives

[Robert B. <rob...@gm...>]

Hi, everyone

I tried to report false positives to Razor, but it won't accept.

In our system, headers are still being added after the message has been
analyzed by Razor, so when you run the checksum on the complete message,
you don't get the same result as when Razor first analyzed it

Ideas how to solve?

Also, where can I see statistics of Razor2 efficiency?

Thanks,
Rob

[Razor-users] Newbie Help Needed

[Thczv F. T. <thc...@gm...>]

Hello all,

I don't see a lot of activity on this list, so hopefully there are people
out there who are still subscribed, and are willing to help me get Razor
properly configured.

I have been receiving a lot of spam lately that hasn't been caught by
Spamassassin.  I successfully configured Pyzor (I think), but I can't get
Razor to work.

I followed the instructions here:

https://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RazorSiteWide

with the exception that I don't know how to make sure permissions are
configured correctly.

Nonetheless, when I run razor-report, I keep getting this error:

Bootstrap Error: Your Razor2 identity was not found.
     If you haven't registered, please do so:
     "razor-admin -register -user=[name/email_address] -pass=[password]".
     (Further information can be found in the razor-admin(1) manpage)
  If you did register, please ensure your identity symlink (or file)
is in order.
: Unable to register without a valid razorhome or identity: Cannot
read the identity file: identity-ruumnoDDrw

I did register when I did the install, but for some reason it didn't take.
I also confess that I don't know how to ensure that my identity symlink (or
file) is in order.

I really am trying to learn how to do this right.  If any of you can direct
me to some documentation that I can rely upon to fix this, I would
appreciate it very much.

Suggestions are also welcome.

Thanks,
Dave

Re: [Razor-users] My Mail is getting spam because of the Razor score please help

[John G. <joh...@wa...>]

Hi,

There is something rotten in the kingdom of Denmark here, the reporting 
does not explain everything, or if it does (bad reporting with bad 
thresholds) then the whole concept is flawed. I do not know how razor 
works in terms of signatures, maybe there are collisions, no clue.

I even get razor reports of spam on emails that are ORDER CONFIRMATIONS 
i.e. some legit user (me) PAID for a service, and the confirmation of 
payment that I receive is flagged as spam by razor, which is of course 
unwanted behavior. There is no way the sellers used the order confirmation 
emails as spam, ever.

Over the last two years, razor has reported to me more and more false 
positives, to the point that it is becoming more a nuisance to legitimate 
activity than spam fighting.

Of course I can stop using it - actually I downgraded all scores to 0.1 
in SA - but more and more legit false positives will still be 
flagged out there.

Sincerely,
JGA


On Sat, 19 Nov 2016, Tor Willy Austerslått wrote:

> Mail signatures end up in Razor because mail administrators and end users report them as spam. There is no "delisting" in Razor as such, only revokes on previously reported spams.
> 
> In short: nobody here can help you. I have nothing to do with Razor. I'm just an end user like you.
> 
> tw
> 
> On 19. nov. 2016, at 15.37, Aman Agarwal wrote:
>
>       HI,
> My mail is getting spam because of the following two reasons. 
> -2.43
> RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100
> Razor2 gives engine 8 confidence level above 50%
> -1.729
> RAZOR2_CHECK
> Listed in Razor2 (http://razor.sf.net/)
> 
> 
> and we are not a spammer, we are trying to send these mails for the marketing purpose with proper authentication. Can you please help us with that. 
> 
> Regards,
> Aman
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Re: [Razor-users] My Mail is getting spam because of the Razor score please help

[Tor W. A. <ma...@br...>]

Mail signatures end up in Razor because mail administrators and end users report them as spam. There is no "delisting" in Razor as such, only revokes on previously reported spams.

In short: nobody here can help you. I have nothing to do with Razor. I'm just an end user like you.

tw

On 19. nov. 2016, at 15.37, Aman Agarwal wrote:

> HI,
> 
> My mail is getting spam because of the following two reasons. 
> -2.43	RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100	Razor2 gives engine 8 confidence level above 50%
> -1.729	RAZOR2_CHECK	Listed in Razor2 (http://razor.sf.net/)
> 
> 
> and we are not a spammer, we are trying to send these mails for the marketing purpose with proper authentication. Can you please help us with that. 
> 
> Regards,
> Aman
> 
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[Razor-users] My Mail is getting spam because of the Razor score please help

[Aman A. <nes...@gm...>]

HI,

My mail is getting spam because of the following two reasons.
-2.43 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100
<http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/Rules/RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100> Razor2
gives engine 8 confidence level above 50%
-1.729 RAZOR2_CHECK
<http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/Rules/RAZOR2_CHECK> Listed
in Razor2 (http://razor.sf.net/)


and we are not a spammer, we are trying to send these mails for the
marketing purpose with proper authentication. Can you please help us with
that.

Regards,
Aman

[Razor-users] warning: no ep4 for server c303.cloudmark.com, using 7542-10

[Laurent B. <bi...@bi...>]

Hi,

It seems that the servers are not supporting the engine 4 anymore, I see 
the following line when executing some razor command:

warning: no ep4 for server c303.cloudmark.com, using 7542-10

That means that for most of the mails, razor bails out with the 
following message:

No queries, no spam

Anything can be done for this?

Kind Regards,

Laurent Bigonville