FW: [rainbow-eiffel-developers] Plan for next RainbowEiffel release

[Brian Y. <bri...@ve...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcos Macedo [mailto:mar...@gm...]
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 4:08 PM
> To: Brian Yan
> Subject: Re: [rainbow-eiffel-developers] Plan for next RainbowEiffel
> release
>
>
> Good Brian.
>
> I fully agree, even that I doubt to have all this up to Jan/2005. I
> know that we have to make the project more attractive so other people
> will join us.
>
> I will start working on the Linux port.
>  Since (2) is a joined task, we could start chatting about this soon.
> I will try to reverse and study the current code to think something
> about. I looked at your code and I saw that you follow the Eiffel
> Style guide lines in most of it. There are some minor points (as
> parameter names) that you use your own style. We can start to write
> our own style guideline, including the use of indexing clause.
>
> I have some ideas of good programming and design ideas, and some
> principles that we can apply, I will write you some ideas in this
> field so we can start to think at our new designing.
>
> I will write you late as soon as I have new organized ideas on this topic.
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 01:19:44 -0600, Brian Yan
> <bri...@ve...> wrote:
> > Yes, I branched out wxEiffel from ELJ to RainbowEiffel; ELJ
> project is now
> > defunct.
> > Now wxEiffel becomes a part of RainbowEiffel and we need to maintain it.
> >
> > Gobo folks are trying to port their libraries to SE 2.1 beta1 -- see
> > following email:
> >
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=5983612&for
> um_id=1688
> > .  According to the email, there are a lot of bugs in SE 2.x
> and it's better
> > not to port RainbowEiffel to SE 2.x for now.  I agree with you and we'd
> > better stick with SE 1.1 until SE 2.x becomes stable and fate
> of Gobo port
> > to SE 2.x becomes clear.
> >
> > Let's prioritize the tasks again.
> > (1) Port IDE to Linux (Marcos)
> > (2) Re-architect and redesign the IDE (Brian, Marcos)
> > (3) Implement configuration/project manager, build manager (Brian)
> > (4) Implement class/feature browser (Marcos)
> > (5) Integrate unit-test framework with IDE (Brian)
> > (6) Implement debugger (Brian)
> > Let's target to include these in next RainbowEiffel release probably at
> > beginning of January/2005 -- this may to too ambitious.
> >
> > What do you think?
> > If you agree, I will create subprojects/tasks in SourceForge.
> > We will use SE 1.1 and Gobo 3.3.
> >
> > -- Brian
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Marcos Macedo [mailto:mar...@gm...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 7:03 PM
> > > To: Brian Yan
> > > Subject: Re: Contributing to RainbowEiffel
> > >
> > >
> > > I was looking at the EiffelZone and, as far as I can read, the
> > > wxEiffel is now part of the RainbowEiffel project. Is that right?
> > >
> > > If so then should I assume that we need to adapt wxEiffel, too?
> > >
> > > I really need to try some simple examples of wxEiffel.
> > >
> > > I'm looking for test Gobo and SmartEiffel 2.0 to see what is
> really wrong.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:35:29 -0200, Marcos Macedo
> > > <mar...@gm...> wrote:
> > > > Thank you,
> > > >    I like your ideas and I want to reinforce my will.
> > > >
> > > > Let`s do some comments:
> > > >
> > > > (1) The case of the Base Library is Important. But Rewrite a Base
> > > > library just for this project is a huge task. Could we just do the
> > > > Gobo to SmartEiffel 2.0 evolution. Do you think that there will be
> > > > many conflitcs in this task? Pehaps we can even avoid a fork by
> > > > talking to the Godo team.
> > > >
> > > > (2) The Number 2 is heavly number 1 dependent. Do you think
> that this
> > > > is really our prority order? Pehaps we can do all our refactory work
> > > > with SmartEiffel 1 and then plan an wevoluttion early. Will we have
> > > > problems with wxEiffel too?
> > > >
> > > > (3) I`m very interested in the Linux Port, since I don`t use WIndows
> > > > at home and I can`t find any Linux SmartEiffel IDE other then emacs
> > > > eiffelmode. I could start working on this right now. I just need to
> > > > try some basic work and  look for it. This will only depend
> on (1) and
> > > > (2), but I can work on this without thinking in this problem first.
> > > >
> > > > (4) I can help in the re-architect of the project. I can
> start looking
> > > > for analise and document the actual architecture to look at where we
> > > > can improve it. I have special interest in the browser, as I think
> > > > that Eiffel can be really strong with a refactor browser and this is
> > > > what I think that is the future of Rainbow IDE. This can add real
> > > > value to it.
> > > >
> > > > I`m interested in both design and development works.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Marcos Macedo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 02:06:02 -0600, Brian Yan
> > > <bri...@ve...> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Marcos,
> > > > >
> > > > > You're in the project member list now and have access to CVS.
> > > > >
> > > > > EiffelBase will not be supported anymore because of its
> > > licensing issue with
> > > > > non-standard Eiffel contructs which are used by SmartEiffel
> > > 2.0 and beyond.
> > > > > Gobo's support for SmartEiffel 2.x is uncertain and hence the
> > > Gobo libraries
> > > > > will not be used anymore.
> > > > > So there is a need to have a Base library of our own that
> > > will be used by
> > > > > other parts of  RainbowEiffel.
> > > > >
> > > > > The priorities are as follows:
> > > > > (1) Base library design and implementation
> > > > > (2) Port existing IDE code to SE 2.0 (Windows)
> > > > > (3) Port IDE to Linux
> > > > > (4) Design and implement new IDE features (configuration
> > > manager, build
> > > > > manager, debugger, class/feature browser, DLL support,
> > > plug-in modules,
> > > > > etc.).  We may also want to re-architect and redesign the
> > > IDE.  Currently
> > > > > the IDE has no clear and good architecture/design yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > I will try to come up with more detailed task list later on.
> > > I hope you can
> > > > > participate in both design and development works.
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Brian
> > > > >
> >
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