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[Rails-users] Rails

[Luiz C. S. D. <lui...@gm...>]

I'm currently playing 1856 by e-mail with some friends using Rails 1.8.8.
While I was simulating some possible outcomes for an upcoming OR, I hit
a snag, and perhaps someone from the list can help.

One of the players has only two president certificates, from two different
companies. One of his companies loses all trains to rust and he has to
buy a new train, and he must put money from his pocket. Rails offers him
this option.

However, in the Game Status window, he has no certificates that he can
sell. No certificate is highlighted, but no active command allows him to
declare bankruptcy. The game is stuck.

Is there some command that I'm not seeing?

--
"Without this playing with fantasy no creative work has ever come to birth.
The debt we owe to the play of our imagination is incalculable." [Carl Jung]

"People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because
they quit playing." [segundo G. Stanley Hall]



-- 
"Without this playing with fantasy no creative work has ever come to birth.
The debt we owe to the play of our imagination is incalculable." [Carl Jung]

"People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because
they quit playing." [segundo G. Stanley Hall]

Re: [Rails-users] Rails

[Phil D. <de...@gm...>]

If you can send through a save game file with this scenario, it really
helps in working out what is going wrong.

Phil

On 12 June 2014 13:35, Luiz Cláudio S. Duarte
<lui...@gm...> wrote:
> I'm currently playing 1856 by e-mail with some friends using Rails 1.8.8.
> While I was simulating some possible outcomes for an upcoming OR, I hit
> a snag, and perhaps someone from the list can help.
>
> One of the players has only two president certificates, from two different
> companies. One of his companies loses all trains to rust and he has to
> buy a new train, and he must put money from his pocket. Rails offers him
> this option.
>
> However, in the Game Status window, he has no certificates that he can
> sell. No certificate is highlighted, but no active command allows him to
> declare bankruptcy. The game is stuck.
>
> Is there some command that I'm not seeing?
>
> --
> "Without this playing with fantasy no creative work has ever come to birth.
> The debt we owe to the play of our imagination is incalculable." [Carl Jung]
>
> "People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because
> they quit playing." [segundo G. Stanley Hall]
>
>
>
> --
> "Without this playing with fantasy no creative work has ever come to birth.
> The debt we owe to the play of our imagination is incalculable." [Carl Jung]
>
> "People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because
> they quit playing." [segundo G. Stanley Hall]
>
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Re: [Rails-users] Rails

[Luiz C. S. D. <lui...@gm...>]

Ah, right. I'll send it presently, as soon as I get back to my computer.
Thanks!

Em quinta-feira, 12 de junho de 2014, Phil Davies <de...@gm...>
escreveu:

> If you can send through a save game file with this scenario, it really
> helps in working out what is going wrong.
>
> Phil
>
> On 12 June 2014 13:35, Luiz Cláudio S. Duarte
> <lui...@gm... <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > I'm currently playing 1856 by e-mail with some friends using Rails 1.8.8.
> > While I was simulating some possible outcomes for an upcoming OR, I hit
> > a snag, and perhaps someone from the list can help.
> >
> > One of the players has only two president certificates, from two
> different
> > companies. One of his companies loses all trains to rust and he has to
> > buy a new train, and he must put money from his pocket. Rails offers him
> > this option.
> >
> > However, in the Game Status window, he has no certificates that he can
> > sell. No certificate is highlighted, but no active command allows him to
> > declare bankruptcy. The game is stuck.
> >
> > Is there some command that I'm not seeing?
> >
> > --
> > "Without this playing with fantasy no creative work has ever come to
> birth.
> > The debt we owe to the play of our imagination is incalculable." [Carl
> Jung]
> >
> > "People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because
> > they quit playing." [segundo G. Stanley Hall]
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "Without this playing with fantasy no creative work has ever come to
> birth.
> > The debt we owe to the play of our imagination is incalculable." [Carl
> Jung]
> >
> > "People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because
> > they quit playing." [segundo G. Stanley Hall]
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions
> > Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems
> > Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data.
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>


-- 
"Without this playing with fantasy no creative work has ever come to birth.
The debt we owe to the play of our imagination is incalculable." [Carl Jung]

"People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because
they quit playing." [segundo G. Stanley Hall]

Re: [Rails-users] Rails

[Luiz C. S. D. <lui...@gm...>]

Here it is.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Luiz Cláudio S. Duarte
<lui...@gm...> wrote:
> Ah, right. I'll send it presently, as soon as I get back to my computer.
> Thanks!
>
> Em quinta-feira, 12 de junho de 2014, Phil Davies <de...@gm...>
> escreveu:
>
>> If you can send through a save game file with this scenario, it really
>> helps in working out what is going wrong.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> On 12 June 2014 13:35, Luiz Cláudio S. Duarte
>> <lui...@gm...> wrote:
>> > I'm currently playing 1856 by e-mail with some friends using Rails
>> > 1.8.8.
>> > While I was simulating some possible outcomes for an upcoming OR, I hit
>> > a snag, and perhaps someone from the list can help.
>> >
>> > One of the players has only two president certificates, from two
>> > different
>> > companies. One of his companies loses all trains to rust and he has to
>> > buy a new train, and he must put money from his pocket. Rails offers him
>> > this option.
>> >
>> > However, in the Game Status window, he has no certificates that he can
>> > sell. No certificate is highlighted, but no active command allows him to
>> > declare bankruptcy. The game is stuck.
>> >
>> > Is there some command that I'm not seeing?
>> >
>> > --
>> > "Without this playing with fantasy no creative work has ever come to
>> > birth.
>> > The debt we owe to the play of our imagination is incalculable." [Carl
>> > Jung]
>> >
>> > "People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because
>> > they quit playing." [segundo G. Stanley Hall]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > "Without this playing with fantasy no creative work has ever come to
>> > birth.
>> > The debt we owe to the play of our imagination is incalculable." [Carl
>> > Jung]
>> >
>> > "People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because
>> > they quit playing." [segundo G. Stanley Hall]
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk
>> > Solutions
>> > Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems
>> > Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data.
>> > Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration
>> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Rails-users mailing list
>> > Rai...@li...
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-users
>> >
>
>
>
> --
> "Without this playing with fantasy no creative work has ever come to birth.
> The debt we owe to the play of our imagination is incalculable." [Carl Jung]
>
> "People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because
> they quit playing." [segundo G. Stanley Hall]



-- 
"Without this playing with fantasy no creative work has ever come to birth.
The debt we owe to the play of our imagination is incalculable." [Carl Jung]

"People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because
they quit playing." [segundo G. Stanley Hall]

Re: [Rails-users] Rails

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

Thanks for your report:
Seems that Rails does not handle the case where forced selling is 
started, however there is no single share available for the player to sell.

In that case Rails should immediately declare bankruptcy, instead of 
switching to emergency share selling without any action offered. ;-)

However it is not a "critical" bug, as the game ends anyway and Undo is 
still possible. Will be put on the list of bugs to fix in upcoming 2.0.

If the situation in your true game arises, you can do the ranking based 
on the players worth in game status.

Stefan


On 06/12/2014 03:49 PM, Luiz Cláudio S. Duarte wrote:
> Here it is.
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Luiz Cláudio S. Duarte
> <lui...@gm...> wrote:
>> Ah, right. I'll send it presently, as soon as I get back to my computer.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Em quinta-feira, 12 de junho de 2014, Phil Davies <de...@gm...>
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> If you can send through a save game file with this scenario, it really
>>> helps in working out what is going wrong.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>> On 12 June 2014 13:35, Luiz Cláudio S. Duarte
>>> <lui...@gm...> wrote:
>>>> I'm currently playing 1856 by e-mail with some friends using Rails
>>>> 1.8.8.
>>>> While I was simulating some possible outcomes for an upcoming OR, I hit
>>>> a snag, and perhaps someone from the list can help.
>>>>
>>>> One of the players has only two president certificates, from two
>>>> different
>>>> companies. One of his companies loses all trains to rust and he has to
>>>> buy a new train, and he must put money from his pocket. Rails offers him
>>>> this option.
>>>>
>>>> However, in the Game Status window, he has no certificates that he can
>>>> sell. No certificate is highlighted, but no active command allows him to
>>>> declare bankruptcy. The game is stuck.
>>>>
>>>> Is there some command that I'm not seeing?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> "Without this playing with fantasy no creative work has ever come to
>>>> birth.
>>>> The debt we owe to the play of our imagination is incalculable." [Carl
>>>> Jung]
>>>>
>>>> "People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because
>>>> they quit playing." [segundo G. Stanley Hall]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> "Without this playing with fantasy no creative work has ever come to
>>>> birth.
>>>> The debt we owe to the play of our imagination is incalculable." [Carl
>>>> Jung]
>>>>
>>>> "People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because
>>>> they quit playing." [segundo G. Stanley Hall]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk
>>>> Solutions
>>>> Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems
>>>> Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data.
>>>> Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration
>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Rails-users mailing list
>>>> Rai...@li...
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-users
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "Without this playing with fantasy no creative work has ever come to birth.
>> The debt we owe to the play of our imagination is incalculable." [Carl Jung]
>>
>> "People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because
>> they quit playing." [segundo G. Stanley Hall]
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions
> Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems
> Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data.
> Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing & Easy Data Exploration
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems
>
>
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[Rails-users] 1856 diesel route

[Luiz C. S. D. <lui...@gm...>]

Hi, folks. I'm currently playing 1856 using Rails 1.8.8. We are at
endgame, with several diesels running.

THB, the first company running on OR 9.1, has many possibilities for
its tile. The two attached image files show that Rails shows a longer
route if a tile is placed on I18 (although it isn't traversed by the
route). If, however, the new tile is placed on N15, the proposed route
is shorter. The N15 tile should allow for the longer route, with the
addition of Welland (N17) to the route.

Or at least so it seems to me. Can one of the developers take a look
at it? Many thanks.

--
Semper imitatum, nunquam idem.

Hoc volo, sic jubeo, sit pro ratione voluntas.

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

"People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because
they quit playing." [segundo G. Stanley Hall]

http://luiz.claudio.nom.br/

Re: [Rails-users] 1856 diesel route

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

Hi,
thanks for reporting.
Unfortunately I cannot give you a better answer than the following:

Loading your game file with either your current version 1.8.8, or with 
the current 1.8.x release 1.8.11 the bug can be reproduced.
Same is true for 1.7.13. However it is clearly shown in your picture 
that it has been reported. It is only possible to figure with the log 
file that is written in the working directory of rails.

However the most likely reason for that behavior: The tile/token 
redo/undo mechanism has some edge cases that do not work correctly in 
rails 1.x.

If you believe in rails 1.x the calculation is wrong, save a game file 
and load the save file again, if the calculation changes, it was due to 
a redo/undo bug.

In rails 2.0 the undo/redo mechanism is rewritten nearly from scratch 
and should avoid such issues in the future.

Stefan

On 09/15/2014 11:25 AM, Luiz Cláudio Silveira Duarte wrote:
> Hi, folks. I'm currently playing 1856 using Rails 1.8.8. We are at
> endgame, with several diesels running.
>
> THB, the first company running on OR 9.1, has many possibilities for
> its tile. The two attached image files show that Rails shows a longer
> route if a tile is placed on I18 (although it isn't traversed by the
> route). If, however, the new tile is placed on N15, the proposed route
> is shorter. The N15 tile should allow for the longer route, with the
> addition of Welland (N17) to the route.
>
> Or at least so it seems to me. Can one of the developers take a look
> at it? Many thanks.
>
> --
> Semper imitatum, nunquam idem.
>
> Hoc volo, sic jubeo, sit pro ratione voluntas.
>
> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
>
> "People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because
> they quit playing." [segundo G. Stanley Hall]
>
> http://luiz.claudio.nom.br/
>
>
>
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