From: Jim B. <jim...@ya...> - 2010-03-12 02:24:29
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On the perhaps-suspect assumption that not /everyone/ on this list is an avid subscriber to all 18xx threads on boardgamegeek, I wanted to bring your attention to a particularly Rails-related thread on BGG- http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/492594/18xx-play-by-email-game-clearinghouse Most of the thread is just organizing Rails/pbem games; it's a great resource for that, if you're not already aware of it. But also- there's been some more Rails-specific discussion (and criticisms), lately. While this developer-group list (here) tends to focus on rails development from the inside, this geek thread offers some perspective from the Rails user community. I see it as a mixed bag, mostly very positive. While some Rails problems are severe, those seem much more the exceptional case these days, and not the rule. 1856 is still stabilizing, it appears- so be it. The list of new titles seems to be poised to expand quickly. A lot of fun games are getting organized and played, eg from this thread- given that Rails is getting a lot more usage, if severe/showstopper bugs are less frequent, it must be getting more stable. Still- it gets more scrutiny, too. Anyway... mostly, I wanted to give everyone here a pointer to this discussion on the geek. regards, - jim |
From: brett l. <bre...@gm...> - 2010-03-12 03:01:16
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Excellent! Thanks for the heads up! Do you think it would be helpful to add a rails-users mailing list to give people a place to discuss more user-centric topics? ---Brett. On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Jim Black <jim...@ya...> wrote: > On the perhaps-suspect assumption that not /everyone/ on this list is an avid subscriber to all 18xx threads on boardgamegeek, I wanted to bring your attention to a particularly Rails-related thread on BGG- http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/492594/18xx-play-by-email-game-clearinghouse > > Most of the thread is just organizing Rails/pbem games; it's a great resource for that, if you're not already aware of it. > > But also- there's been some more Rails-specific discussion (and criticisms), lately. > > While this developer-group list (here) tends to focus on rails development from the inside, this geek thread offers some perspective from the Rails user community. > > I see it as a mixed bag, mostly very positive. > > While some Rails problems are severe, those seem much more the exceptional case these days, and not the rule. 1856 is still stabilizing, it appears- so be it. > > The list of new titles seems to be poised to expand quickly. > > A lot of fun games are getting organized and played, eg from this thread- given that Rails is getting a lot more usage, if severe/showstopper bugs are less frequent, it must be getting more stable. Still- it gets more scrutiny, too. > > Anyway... mostly, I wanted to give everyone here a pointer to this discussion on the geek. > > regards, > - jim > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2010-03-12 07:38:37
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I believe that a split into two lists would be really helpful, as I sometimes avoid the devel list for java specific stuff to avoid scare off those from the devel list who are ("only") interested in 18xx stuff (like rule questions and get feedback on the state of bugs). Maybe even keep the current mailing list for that reason and add a new one like devel-internal, devel-implementation or devel-java? Stefan On Friday 12 March 2010 04:00:52 brett lentz wrote: > Excellent! Thanks for the heads up! > > Do you think it would be helpful to add a rails-users mailing list to > give people a place to discuss more user-centric topics? > > ---Brett. > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Jim Black <jim...@ya...> wrote: > > On the perhaps-suspect assumption that not /everyone/ on this list is an > > avid subscriber to all 18xx threads on boardgamegeek, I wanted to bring > > your attention to a particularly Rails-related thread on BGG- > > http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/492594/18xx-play-by-email-game-cleari > >nghouse > > > > Most of the thread is just organizing Rails/pbem games; it's a great > > resource for that, if you're not already aware of it. > > > > But also- there's been some more Rails-specific discussion (and > > criticisms), lately. > > > > While this developer-group list (here) tends to focus on rails > > development from the inside, this geek thread offers some perspective > > from the Rails user community. > > > > I see it as a mixed bag, mostly very positive. > > > > While some Rails problems are severe, those seem much more the > > exceptional case these days, and not the rule. 1856 is still > > stabilizing, it appears- so be it. > > > > The list of new titles seems to be poised to expand quickly. > > > > A lot of fun games are getting organized and played, eg from this thread- > > given that Rails is getting a lot more usage, if severe/showstopper bugs > > are less frequent, it must be getting more stable. Still- it gets more > > scrutiny, too. > > > > Anyway... mostly, I wanted to give everyone here a pointer to this > > discussion on the geek. > > > > regards, > > - jim > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >----- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel |
From: brett l. <bre...@gm...> - 2010-03-12 07:45:31
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You shouldn't shy away from the list for development discussions. That's what it's here for. But, I think it's time we had a more user-centric list for troubleshooting and less technical discussions. I'm actually pretty happy about this. Our little project is growing. It's a good problem to have. :-) ---Brett. On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> wrote: > I believe that a split into two lists would be really helpful, as I sometimes > avoid the devel list for java specific stuff to avoid scare off those from > the devel list who are ("only") interested in 18xx stuff (like rule questions > and get feedback on the state of bugs). Maybe even keep the current mailing > list for that reason and add a new one like devel-internal, > devel-implementation or devel-java? > > Stefan > > On Friday 12 March 2010 04:00:52 brett lentz wrote: >> Excellent! Thanks for the heads up! >> >> Do you think it would be helpful to add a rails-users mailing list to >> give people a place to discuss more user-centric topics? >> >> ---Brett. >> >> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Jim Black <jim...@ya...> wrote: >> > On the perhaps-suspect assumption that not /everyone/ on this list is an >> > avid subscriber to all 18xx threads on boardgamegeek, I wanted to bring >> > your attention to a particularly Rails-related thread on BGG- >> > http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/492594/18xx-play-by-email-game-cleari >> >nghouse >> > >> > Most of the thread is just organizing Rails/pbem games; it's a great >> > resource for that, if you're not already aware of it. >> > >> > But also- there's been some more Rails-specific discussion (and >> > criticisms), lately. >> > >> > While this developer-group list (here) tends to focus on rails >> > development from the inside, this geek thread offers some perspective >> > from the Rails user community. >> > >> > I see it as a mixed bag, mostly very positive. >> > >> > While some Rails problems are severe, those seem much more the >> > exceptional case these days, and not the rule. 1856 is still >> > stabilizing, it appears- so be it. >> > >> > The list of new titles seems to be poised to expand quickly. >> > >> > A lot of fun games are getting organized and played, eg from this thread- >> > given that Rails is getting a lot more usage, if severe/showstopper bugs >> > are less frequent, it must be getting more stable. Still- it gets more >> > scrutiny, too. >> > >> > Anyway... mostly, I wanted to give everyone here a pointer to this >> > discussion on the geek. >> > >> > regards, >> > - jim >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >----- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rails-devel mailing list >> > Rai...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>--- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails-devel mailing list >> Rai...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |