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Re: [Rails-devel] [Rails-users] [v.1.8.4] 1880 map error

[Martin B. <dr....@t-...>]

Am 27.11.2013 14:18, schrieb Antero Kuusi:
> We found a map error in 1880 module. Rails map has large double city
> in hex H8 (tile -80020) while it should be medium double city
> (-80002). That error makes the Belgian investor unusable as it really
> needs a double small station in the hex.
>
> Antero
>
Hello Antero,

unfortunately you are right. This bug is confirmed and fixed in the
latest commit. I will push a new release on Saturday, to incoporate
other fixes. I know Michael is looking into a problem regarding the
value calculation while traveling over multiple water hexes in 1880.

Thanks again for reporting the bug.

Martin

Re: [Rails-devel] [Rails-users] [v.1.8.4] 1880 map error

[Michael A. <out...@gm...>]

Martin,

    I don't think I'm going to get to the fix for the multiple water hexes
by Saturday.  I will let you know for sure by Friday.

Mike


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Martin Brumm
<dr....@t-...>wrote:

> Am 27.11.2013 14:18, schrieb Antero Kuusi:
> > We found a map error in 1880 module. Rails map has large double city
> > in hex H8 (tile -80020) while it should be medium double city
> > (-80002). That error makes the Belgian investor unusable as it really
> > needs a double small station in the hex.
> >
> > Antero
> >
> Hello Antero,
>
> unfortunately you are right. This bug is confirmed and fixed in the
> latest commit. I will push a new release on Saturday, to incoporate
> other fixes. I know Michael is looking into a problem regarding the
> value calculation while traveling over multiple water hexes in 1880.
>
> Thanks again for reporting the bug.
>
> Martin
>
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] [Rails-users] [v.1.8.4] 1880 map error

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

If someone explains shortly what the requirement is, I might have a 
proposal to solve it in time.

On 11/27/2013 09:31 PM, Michael Alexander wrote:
> Martin,
>
>      I don't think I'm going to get to the fix for the multiple water
> hexes by Saturday.  I will let you know for sure by Friday.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Martin Brumm
> <dr....@t-... <mailto:dr....@t-...>> wrote:
>
>     Am 27.11.2013 14:18, schrieb Antero Kuusi:
>      > We found a map error in 1880 module. Rails map has large double city
>      > in hex H8 (tile -80020) while it should be medium double city
>      > (-80002). That error makes the Belgian investor unusable as it really
>      > needs a double small station in the hex.
>      >
>      > Antero
>      >
>     Hello Antero,
>
>     unfortunately you are right. This bug is confirmed and fixed in the
>     latest commit. I will push a new release on Saturday, to incoporate
>     other fixes. I know Michael is looking into a problem regarding the
>     value calculation while traveling over multiple water hexes in 1880.
>
>     Thanks again for reporting the bug.
>
>     Martin
>
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] [Rails-users] [v.1.8.4] 1880 map error

[Michael A. <out...@gm...>]

There are three connections that are "by ferry".  Each connection that is
used take $10 off the run.  What is happening now is that if a run uses two
or more connections, $10 is only taken off once.


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> wrote:

> If someone explains shortly what the requirement is, I might have a
> proposal to solve it in time.
>
> On 11/27/2013 09:31 PM, Michael Alexander wrote:
> > Martin,
> >
> >      I don't think I'm going to get to the fix for the multiple water
> > hexes by Saturday.  I will let you know for sure by Friday.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Martin Brumm
> > <dr....@t-... <mailto:dr....@t-...>>
> wrote:
> >
> >     Am 27.11.2013 14:18, schrieb Antero Kuusi:
> >      > We found a map error in 1880 module. Rails map has large double
> city
> >      > in hex H8 (tile -80020) while it should be medium double city
> >      > (-80002). That error makes the Belgian investor unusable as it
> really
> >      > needs a double small station in the hex.
> >      >
> >      > Antero
> >      >
> >     Hello Antero,
> >
> >     unfortunately you are right. This bug is confirmed and fixed in the
> >     latest commit. I will push a new release on Saturday, to incoporate
> >     other fixes. I know Michael is looking into a problem regarding the
> >     value calculation while traveling over multiple water hexes in 1880.
> >
> >     Thanks again for reporting the bug.
> >
> >     Martin
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Rails-devel] [Rails-users] [v.1.8.4] 1880 map error

[Martin B. <dr....@t-...>]

Good Evening,

the problem arises from the implementation of the
FerryConnectionModifier in the Moment.

It relies on the run.getVertices() which only stores the Hexes with a
station/City on a run.

But sometimes this mechanismn stores an intermediate Hex and thus Mike's
calculation finds that theres a water combo in between..

I noticed the RevenueBonusTemplate Class in the rails.algorithmns ?
Can we use that with a negative Bonus (Malus) ?

Should we create a RevenueMalusTemplate and add that to the Code ?  Then
Overwrite RevenueAdapter with a new Class specific for 1880 ? Or put it
in the main class (dont know if there are other Games that use Malus ?).

And then use the FerryConnection Modifier to cancel out the effects of
the Malus ?

But then again we might have to find out if on that particular vertices
combination a malus exists....
Probably wont save us lots of trouble, if Stefan doesnt have an idea.

Other angle:
So how can one find out which route gets used between two cities (i.e.
determine the hexes automatically ?)
Looking @Stefan there for clues :)

Regards
Martin


Am 28.11.2013 02:16, schrieb Michael Alexander:
> There are three connections that are "by ferry".  Each connection that
> is used take $10 off the run.  What is happening now is that if a run
> uses two or more connections, $10 is only taken off once.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Stefan Frey <ste...@we...
> <mailto:ste...@we...>> wrote:
>
>     If someone explains shortly what the requirement is, I might have a
>     proposal to solve it in time.
>
>     On 11/27/2013 09:31 PM, Michael Alexander wrote:
>     > Martin,
>     >
>     >      I don't think I'm going to get to the fix for the multiple
>     water
>     > hexes by Saturday.  I will let you know for sure by Friday.
>     >
>     > Mike
>

[Rails-devel] 1880 ferry revenue modifier (was: 1880 map error)

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

Martin or Alexander,
most likely I have solved that issue.
Could someone provide me an 1880 test file that has a run via ferries?

It is not as difficult, but it shows that I will have to dig up and 
collect my explanations on the algorithm and the interaction with the 
modifiers.

Will provide those as soon as I am sure that my new modifier works as 
expected.

Thanks,
Stefan


On 11/28/2013 10:24 PM, Martin Brumm wrote:
> Good Evening,
>
> the problem arises from the implementation of the
> FerryConnectionModifier in the Moment.
>
> It relies on the run.getVertices() which only stores the Hexes with a
> station/City on a run.
>
> But sometimes this mechanismn stores an intermediate Hex and thus Mike's
> calculation finds that theres a water combo in between..
>
> I noticed the RevenueBonusTemplate Class in the rails.algorithmns ?
> Can we use that with a negative Bonus (Malus) ?
>
> Should we create a RevenueMalusTemplate and add that to the Code ?  Then
> Overwrite RevenueAdapter with a new Class specific for 1880 ? Or put it
> in the main class (dont know if there are other Games that use Malus ?).
>
> And then use the FerryConnection Modifier to cancel out the effects of
> the Malus ?
>
> But then again we might have to find out if on that particular vertices
> combination a malus exists....
> Probably wont save us lots of trouble, if Stefan doesnt have an idea.
>
> Other angle:
> So how can one find out which route gets used between two cities (i.e.
> determine the hexes automatically ?)
> Looking @Stefan there for clues :)
>
> Regards
> Martin
>
>
> Am 28.11.2013 02:16, schrieb Michael Alexander:
>> There are three connections that are "by ferry".  Each connection that
>> is used take $10 off the run.  What is happening now is that if a run
>> uses two or more connections, $10 is only taken off once.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Stefan Frey <ste...@we...
>> <mailto:ste...@we...>> wrote:
>>
>>     If someone explains shortly what the requirement is, I might have a
>>     proposal to solve it in time.
>>
>>     On 11/27/2013 09:31 PM, Michael Alexander wrote:
>>     > Martin,
>>     >
>>     >      I don't think I'm going to get to the fix for the multiple
>>     water
>>     > hexes by Saturday.  I will let you know for sure by Friday.
>>     >
>>     > Mike
>>
>
>