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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2012-07-17 11:58:21
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There is a bug reported on the issue tracker, that for 1856 Rails pays revenue for shares in the IPO into company treasury. I doubt that such a bug could still exist for the heavily scrutinized 1856 implementation ;-) As I am no expert for 1856, can someone else have a look into this? Stefan See: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3544316&group_id=132173&atid=723360 |
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From: Mike B. <com...@ip...> - 2012-07-18 11:54:22
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Attempted to replicate this a couple of times but it's trickier than it looks to get the timing right to replicate the exact circumstances described. Still investigating. Also have a couple of other bugs that have come to my attention that I will be reporting on shortly, one in 1851 and another that is also in 1856. Mike Bourke Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com Co-author, Assassin's Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...] Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2012 9:58 PM To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game Subject: [Rails-devel] Potential 1856 bug: Revenue of 1856 IPO shares? There is a bug reported on the issue tracker, that for 1856 Rails pays revenue for shares in the IPO into company treasury. I doubt that such a bug could still exist for the heavily scrutinized 1856 implementation ;-) As I am no expert for 1856, can someone else have a look into this? Stefan See: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3544316&group_id=132173&atid =723360 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Rails-devel mailing list Rai...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 120717-1, 18/07/2012 Tested on: 18/07/2012 9:54:16 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com |
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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2012-07-18 15:30:16
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Mike: thanks for looking into that: Maybe the best is to ask the poster (kdm98) of the bug for a savefile where he experienced the problem? You should be able to send a message via sourceforge. Stefan On 07/18/2012 01:54 PM, Mike Bourke wrote: > Attempted to replicate this a couple of times but it's trickier than it > looks to get the timing right to replicate the exact circumstances > described. Still investigating. Also have a couple of other bugs that have > come to my attention that I will be reporting on shortly, one in 1851 and > another that is also in 1856. > > Mike Bourke > Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com > Co-author, Assassin's Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...] > Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2012 9:58 PM > To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > Subject: [Rails-devel] Potential 1856 bug: Revenue of 1856 IPO shares? > > There is a bug reported on the issue tracker, that for 1856 Rails pays > revenue for shares in the IPO into company treasury. > I doubt that such a bug could still exist for the heavily scrutinized > 1856 implementation ;-) > As I am no expert for 1856, can someone else have a look into this? > Stefan > > > See: > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3544316&group_id=132173&atid > =723360 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 120717-1, 18/07/2012 > Tested on: 18/07/2012 9:54:16 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
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From: Mike B. <com...@ip...> - 2012-07-18 15:36:12
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I'm assuming that it was not retained. In theory it's easy, but getting the loans right so that the CGR is not fully subscribed is against my usual instinctive habits and playstyle, I have to do it deliberately and not let my natural instincts have any effect at all. But my instinct from multiple games played is that he is right, but that it was not the case with earlier versions of the 1.7.x branch - something that's crept in along the way. Mike Bourke Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com Co-author, Assassin's Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...] Sent: Thursday, 19 July 2012 1:30 AM To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Potential 1856 bug: Revenue of 1856 IPO shares? Mike: thanks for looking into that: Maybe the best is to ask the poster (kdm98) of the bug for a savefile where he experienced the problem? You should be able to send a message via sourceforge. Stefan On 07/18/2012 01:54 PM, Mike Bourke wrote: > Attempted to replicate this a couple of times but it's trickier than it > looks to get the timing right to replicate the exact circumstances > described. Still investigating. Also have a couple of other bugs that have > come to my attention that I will be reporting on shortly, one in 1851 and > another that is also in 1856. > > Mike Bourke > Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com > Co-author, Assassin's Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...] > Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2012 9:58 PM > To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > Subject: [Rails-devel] Potential 1856 bug: Revenue of 1856 IPO shares? > > There is a bug reported on the issue tracker, that for 1856 Rails pays > revenue for shares in the IPO into company treasury. > I doubt that such a bug could still exist for the heavily scrutinized > 1856 implementation ;-) > As I am no expert for 1856, can someone else have a look into this? > Stefan > > > See: > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3544316&group_id=132173&atid > =723360 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 120717-1, 18/07/2012 > Tested on: 18/07/2012 9:54:16 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Rails-devel mailing list Rai...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 120717-1, 18/07/2012 Tested on: 19/07/2012 1:36:09 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com |
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From: Erik V. <eri...@xs...> - 2012-07-18 15:58:44
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I added the following comment into the bug tracker: "I did a quick check with a case where shares are both in IPO and Pool, and everything looks OK to me. Pool pays dividend to the company (minus any loan interest), IPO doesn't. I would need a saved file with a clear example to investigate this further." Erik. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Bourke [mailto:com...@ip...] > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 5:36 PM > To: 'Development list for Rails: an 18xx game' > Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Potential 1856 bug: Revenue of 1856 IPO shares? > > I'm assuming that it was not retained. In theory it's easy, but getting the > loans right so that the CGR is not fully subscribed is against my usual > instinctive habits and playstyle, I have to do it deliberately and not let my > natural instincts have any effect at all. But my instinct from multiple games > played is that he is right, but that it was not the case with earlier versions of > the 1.7.x branch - something that's crept in along the way. > > Mike Bourke > Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com Co-author, Assassin's > Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...] > Sent: Thursday, 19 July 2012 1:30 AM > To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Potential 1856 bug: Revenue of 1856 IPO shares? > > Mike: > thanks for looking into that: Maybe the best is to ask the poster > (kdm98) of the bug for a savefile where he experienced the problem? > You should be able to send a message via sourceforge. > Stefan > > On 07/18/2012 01:54 PM, Mike Bourke wrote: > > Attempted to replicate this a couple of times but it's trickier than > > it looks to get the timing right to replicate the exact circumstances > > described. Still investigating. Also have a couple of other bugs that > > have come to my attention that I will be reporting on shortly, one in > > 1851 and another that is also in 1856. > > > > Mike Bourke > > Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com Co-author, > Assassin's > > Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...] > > Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2012 9:58 PM > > To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > > Subject: [Rails-devel] Potential 1856 bug: Revenue of 1856 IPO shares? > > > > There is a bug reported on the issue tracker, that for 1856 Rails pays > > revenue for shares in the IPO into company treasury. > > I doubt that such a bug could still exist for the heavily scrutinized > > 1856 implementation ;-) > > As I am no expert for 1856, can someone else have a look into this? > > Stefan > > > > > > See: > > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3544316&group_id=13217 > 3&atid > > =723360 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > Live Security Virtual Conference > > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. > > Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the > > latest in malware threats. > > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > --- > > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > > Virus Database (VPS): 120717-1, 18/07/2012 Tested on: 18/07/2012 > > 9:54:16 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. > > http://www.avast.com > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > Live Security Virtual Conference > > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. > > Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the > > latest in malware threats. > > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat > landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will > include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 120717-1, 18/07/2012 Tested on: 19/07/2012 1:36:09 > AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat > landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will > include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel |
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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2012-07-18 15:53:27
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I cannot follow your arguments, but maybe my unfamiliarity with 1856 plays a role here: Are we talking about the same bug form the sf tracker, quoted below? Why do you assume this is related to CGR? Stefan "I've always understood (and played) the 1856 game rules to be that if certificates are still in IPO, then that portion of the dividend goes to the bank and not to the company treasury. Only open market certificates are paid into the company treasury. A cursory look at some postings on the 1856 forum on boardgamegeek agrees with this. I'm brand new to rails, but it appears that payouts are staying in the company treasury early in the game when a substantial portion of the certificates are still in IPO. I looked through the options to see if this is something that has to be turned on, but nothing was obvious. From the bug reports, it appears that people have been playing 1856 on here for over 2 years, so I'm guessing there is something that I've missed. Can someone clear this up for me? Thanks!" On 07/18/2012 05:36 PM, Mike Bourke wrote: > I'm assuming that it was not retained. In theory it's easy, but getting the > loans right so that the CGR is not fully subscribed is against my usual > instinctive habits and playstyle, I have to do it deliberately and not let > my natural instincts have any effect at all. But my instinct from multiple > games played is that he is right, but that it was not the case with earlier > versions of the 1.7.x branch - something that's crept in along the way. > > Mike Bourke > Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com > Co-author, Assassin's Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...] > Sent: Thursday, 19 July 2012 1:30 AM > To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Potential 1856 bug: Revenue of 1856 IPO shares? > > Mike: > thanks for looking into that: Maybe the best is to ask the poster > (kdm98) of the bug for a savefile where he experienced the problem? > You should be able to send a message via sourceforge. > Stefan > > On 07/18/2012 01:54 PM, Mike Bourke wrote: >> Attempted to replicate this a couple of times but it's trickier than it >> looks to get the timing right to replicate the exact circumstances >> described. Still investigating. Also have a couple of other bugs that have >> come to my attention that I will be reporting on shortly, one in 1851 and >> another that is also in 1856. >> >> Mike Bourke >> Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com >> Co-author, Assassin's Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...] >> Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2012 9:58 PM >> To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game >> Subject: [Rails-devel] Potential 1856 bug: Revenue of 1856 IPO shares? >> >> There is a bug reported on the issue tracker, that for 1856 Rails pays >> revenue for shares in the IPO into company treasury. >> I doubt that such a bug could still exist for the heavily scrutinized >> 1856 implementation ;-) >> As I am no expert for 1856, can someone else have a look into this? >> Stefan >> >> >> See: >> > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3544316&group_id=132173&atid >> =723360 >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails-devel mailing list >> Rai...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >> >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 120717-1, 18/07/2012 >> Tested on: 18/07/2012 9:54:16 PM >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails-devel mailing list >> Rai...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 120717-1, 18/07/2012 > Tested on: 19/07/2012 1:36:09 AM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
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From: Mike B. <com...@ip...> - 2012-07-18 17:13:59
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As I recalled his orginal thread, the complaint was about CGR shares left unsold/unallocated. Obviously I was mis-remembering! Thanks for setting me straight on this, Stefan! I'll get back to the testing shortly! Mike Bourke Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com Co-author, Assassin's Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...] Sent: Thursday, 19 July 2012 1:53 AM To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Potential 1856 bug: Revenue of 1856 IPO shares? I cannot follow your arguments, but maybe my unfamiliarity with 1856 plays a role here: Are we talking about the same bug form the sf tracker, quoted below? Why do you assume this is related to CGR? Stefan "I've always understood (and played) the 1856 game rules to be that if certificates are still in IPO, then that portion of the dividend goes to the bank and not to the company treasury. Only open market certificates are paid into the company treasury. A cursory look at some postings on the 1856 forum on boardgamegeek agrees with this. I'm brand new to rails, but it appears that payouts are staying in the company treasury early in the game when a substantial portion of the certificates are still in IPO. I looked through the options to see if this is something that has to be turned on, but nothing was obvious. From the bug reports, it appears that people have been playing 1856 on here for over 2 years, so I'm guessing there is something that I've missed. Can someone clear this up for me? Thanks!" On 07/18/2012 05:36 PM, Mike Bourke wrote: > I'm assuming that it was not retained. In theory it's easy, but getting the > loans right so that the CGR is not fully subscribed is against my usual > instinctive habits and playstyle, I have to do it deliberately and not let > my natural instincts have any effect at all. But my instinct from multiple > games played is that he is right, but that it was not the case with earlier > versions of the 1.7.x branch - something that's crept in along the way. > > Mike Bourke > Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com > Co-author, Assassin's Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...] > Sent: Thursday, 19 July 2012 1:30 AM > To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Potential 1856 bug: Revenue of 1856 IPO shares? > > Mike: > thanks for looking into that: Maybe the best is to ask the poster > (kdm98) of the bug for a savefile where he experienced the problem? > You should be able to send a message via sourceforge. > Stefan > > On 07/18/2012 01:54 PM, Mike Bourke wrote: >> Attempted to replicate this a couple of times but it's trickier than it >> looks to get the timing right to replicate the exact circumstances >> described. Still investigating. Also have a couple of other bugs that have >> come to my attention that I will be reporting on shortly, one in 1851 and >> another that is also in 1856. >> >> Mike Bourke >> Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com >> Co-author, Assassin's Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...] >> Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2012 9:58 PM >> To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game >> Subject: [Rails-devel] Potential 1856 bug: Revenue of 1856 IPO shares? >> >> There is a bug reported on the issue tracker, that for 1856 Rails pays >> revenue for shares in the IPO into company treasury. >> I doubt that such a bug could still exist for the heavily scrutinized >> 1856 implementation ;-) >> As I am no expert for 1856, can someone else have a look into this? >> Stefan >> >> >> See: >> > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3544316&group_id=132173&atid >> =723360 >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails-devel mailing list >> Rai...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >> >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 120717-1, 18/07/2012 >> Tested on: 18/07/2012 9:54:16 PM >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails-devel mailing list >> Rai...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 120717-1, 18/07/2012 > Tested on: 19/07/2012 1:36:09 AM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Rails-devel mailing list Rai...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 120717-1, 18/07/2012 Tested on: 19/07/2012 3:13:57 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com |
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