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[Rails-devel] How to Display additional Information in the StatusWindow..?

[Dr. M. B. <dr....@t-...>]

Hi Erik, Brett, Stefan,

 

i would like to display the parslots (in 1880 there are a number of
ParPrices each with an fixed amount of slots available) and their current
Status (occupied or not and if occupied by whom). 

 

At start those slots are unoccupied and get occupied upon Starting a Major
Corporation. The player is able to choose the ParPrice and the "ParSlot" to
determine the position of his company in the operational order.

 

So from what I have seen this would require a new Model to be observed ?
Even though it's an Array with a predetermined length.

 

Is that the right way, or is there an easier way to handle that ? J

 

Regrds,

Martin

Re: [Rails-devel] How to Display additional Information in the StatusWindow..?

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

Why not have it be a display on the map?

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On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Dr. Martin Brumm <
dr....@t-...> wrote:

> Hi Erik, Brett, Stefan,****
>
> ** **
>
> i would like to display the parslots (in 1880 there are a number of
> ParPrices each with an fixed amount of slots available) and their current
> Status (occupied or not and if occupied by whom). ****
>
> ** **
>
> At start those slots are unoccupied and get occupied upon Starting a Major
> Corporation. The player is able to choose the ParPrice and the “ParSlot” to
> determine the position of his company in the operational order.****
>
> ** **
>
> So from what I have seen this would require a new Model to be observed ?
> Even though it’s an Array with a predetermined length.****
>
> ** **
>
> Is that the right way, or is there an easier way to handle that ? J****
>
> ** **
>
> Regrds,****
>
> Martin****
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] How to Display additional Information in the StatusWindow..?

[John D. G. <jd...@di...>]

> Dr. Martin Brumm wrote:
>     i would like to display the parslots (in 1880 there are a number of
> ParPrices each with an fixed amount of slots available) and their current
> Status (occupied or not and if occupied by whom). ____

1837 has this feature too.  In the printed game it is on the stock price chart.

On 2012-06-30 15:05, Chris Shaffer wrote:
> Why not have it be a display on the map?

Because it's unrelated to anything in the map pane.  It is a stock price and if
displayed anywhere, I'd put it in either the status window or the stock price
chart.

But in practical terms I don't even see a need to display it beyond the existing
"Par" column on the status window.  The only time it will matter in the game is
if somebody is starting a new company and some of the par prices are unavailable
because all the slots are taken.  In which case -- just gray out those prices in
the radio-button dialog in which the president sets the par price!

Re: [Rails-devel] How to Display additional Information in the StatusWindow..?

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

In 1880, the par value selected affects the operating order.  There are
definitely times when knowing which specific slots are vacant matters a
lot.  For example, given ordering 100A, 100B, 100C, 100D, 90A, 90B... if
company 100B is operating, and slot 100C is vacant, triggering a stock
round means someone can open a company in slot 100C and operate
immediately.  If instead company 100D is operating and slot 100C is vacant,
triggering a stock round doesn't open up the same opportunity.

Similarly, if company 100B triggers a stock round, a player might want to
buy shares in company 100D, while they might want to avoid buying shares of
company 100A.

A huge part of the game is manipulating the timing of the stock rounds and
the subsequent opportunities to open companies in upcoming vacant slots.

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On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 3:27 PM, John David Galt <
jd...@di...> wrote:

> > Dr. Martin Brumm wrote:
> >     i would like to display the parslots (in 1880 there are a number of
> > ParPrices each with an fixed amount of slots available) and their current
> > Status (occupied or not and if occupied by whom). ____
>
> 1837 has this feature too.  In the printed game it is on the stock price
> chart.
>
> On 2012-06-30 15:05, Chris Shaffer wrote:
> > Why not have it be a display on the map?
>
> Because it's unrelated to anything in the map pane.  It is a stock price
> and if
> displayed anywhere, I'd put it in either the status window or the stock
> price
> chart.
>
> But in practical terms I don't even see a need to display it beyond the
> existing
> "Par" column on the status window.  The only time it will matter in the
> game is
> if somebody is starting a new company and some of the par prices are
> unavailable
> because all the slots are taken.  In which case -- just gray out those
> prices in
> the radio-button dialog in which the president sets the par price!
>
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] How to Display additional Information in the StatusWindow..?

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

Martin:
regardless if you want to display the number of free slots or only use 
it for internal book-keeping you need a state-type variable.
Otherwise you will run into undo-problems.

To have an updating display you need to create an observable model-type 
object which delivers that information to the display element after
each update.

So using an fixed-length array is not a solution.
To solve the state issue I propose the following solutions:

A) As the par prices of companies are already state-variables the number 
of free slots could be derived without adding another state variable. 
This is an easy solution if you only check the number of free slots at 
the time of choosing a new par price.

B) Or you could use a HashMapState<Integer, Integer>  variable which has 
the par prices as keys and the the number of available slots as values.
A disadvantage of this approach is that you have to change every code 
location that assigns par prices, something that is not necessary for A.
(Most likely there is only one, but better check).

To solve the observable issue:

A) If you want to make this observable you have to write your own 
subclass of ModelObject.
Then you have to make this ModelObject dependent on the par price state 
variables of all companies in 1880 at initialization time.

B) The HashMapState itself is a sub-class of ModelObject, thus it is a 
ModelObject already.

In Rails2.0 the State/Model mechanisms will be easier to use and more 
powerful, however they are not 100% compatible, so it will need some 
manual changes anyway.

Stefan

On 06/30/2012 10:41 PM, Dr. Martin Brumm wrote:
> Hi Erik, Brett, Stefan,
>
> i would like to display the parslots (in 1880 there are a number of
> ParPrices each with an fixed amount of slots available) and their
> current Status (occupied or not and if occupied by whom).
>
> At start those slots are unoccupied and get occupied upon Starting a
> Major Corporation. The player is able to choose the ParPrice and the
> “ParSlot” to determine the position of his company in the operational order.
>
> So from what I have seen this would require a new Model to be observed ?
> Even though it’s an Array with a predetermined length.
>
> Is that the right way, or is there an easier way to handle that ? J
>
> Regrds,
>
> Martin
>
>
>
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