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Re: [Rails-devel] CVS and XCode

[Erik V. <eri...@hc...>]

With regards to your Junction example, of some games allow re-use, and some
don't. Which ones don't allow a junction re-use? and What tile numbers (at
least one example) so I can tell how it is drawn/represented. Given it is on
Blackwater Station site.

Tiles  544-546. These can also be drawn as any-to-any plain track
connections with 4 edges, but as that would be ugly, drawing has been
simplified this way.
The XML representation of these tiles in the current Rails Tiles.xml (the
generic one) will show you what I mean.
Here the XML intentionally differs from the drawing, as I thought in this
way route finding would be easier .
 
It's the same thing with tiles 80-83, which are drawn in two different ways
that, however, are functionally identical.
(you might also want to look at http://www.18xx.info/tiles/green.html on
John Tamplin's site). 
 
Erik.

Re: [Rails-devel] CVS and XCode

[Mark S. <mar...@gm...>]

OK from both of your latest responses, and the Blackwater Station site (
18xx.net) implies that two (or more) trains could come and connect through
the junction. Or with alternate drawings of the tiles listed per John David
Gault on 18xx all basically re-enforces my original statement that a
Junction has no real function, code, or drawing requirements. And depending
on how the XML TIle Definition is coded up, I have confidence my current
code base can draw them both ways. In fact I already draw both examples in
my 1853 Tile Set:

Tile 106 - Represents a Junction at Dual Guage, Tile 82 - Represents a
Junction type, with Sharp and Gentle Curves.

Mark

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Erik Vos <eri...@hc...> wrote:

>  With regards to your Junction example, of some games allow re-use, and
> some don't. Which ones don't allow a junction re-use? and What tile numbers
> (at least one example) so I can tell how it is drawn/represented. Given it
> is on Blackwater Station site.
>
> Tiles  544-546. These can also be drawn as any-to-any plain track
> connections with 4 edges, but as that would be ugly, drawing has been
> simplified this way.
> The XML representation of these tiles in the current Rails Tiles.xml (the
> generic one) will show you what I mean.
> Here the XML intentionally differs from the drawing, as I thought in
> this way route finding would be easier .
>
> It's the same thing with tiles 80-83, which are drawn in two different ways
> that, however, are functionally identical.
> (you might also want to look at http://www.18xx.info/tiles/green.html on
> John Tamplin's site).
>
> Erik.
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Re: [Rails-devel] CVS and XCode

[Mark S. <mar...@gm...>]

I have been writing up some documentation about my Tile Definitions, I can
post it to a Mail thread or as a separate pair of files. One is a PDF. I
will prepare an updated Archive of my functioning code base that will
include this documentation, plus a couple of changes.

1. The new archive will draw the map cells without any tiles and a base
terrain of CLEAR as a pale green. I have setup the routine to draw based
upon a Terrain Color array so that it can be read from an XML Data file.
This File could be generic, with an overriding one for each game, and/or
each user.

2. The new archive will also draw the Revenue Values in a black circle (no
fill). I have gone and looked at my copies, and I see some variations -- For
Grey & Yellow tiles it is drawn as black circle with black text. For Green
and Brown, it appears to be drawn as White circle with White Text. This is
problematical, because by the time the Revenue value is drawn, it is several
calls deep within drawing the Tile itself. The base tile type is not
currently passed down to it. I have done a couple of tests and for every
tile type except BROWN, it is drawn in black and has good contrast (at least
to my eye). I tried pushing the tile type down in the various calls and ran
into an unexpected clog, so I backed it out to just removing the fill color.

3. The new archive also will not draw the city names. This eliminated
several of the overlapping attributes. Commented out one line of code.

Given the page of documentation, the PDF File that lays out the various
locations, It might be worth me sending in an update to my archive.

Re: [Rails-devel] CVS and XCode

[John D. G. <jd...@di...>]

Mark Smith wrote:
> No toes were hurt by the message. I was just confirming the validity of
> your statement about not trusting an actual printed copy of the game. I
> have seen some site, even www.18xx.net <http://www.18xx.net> have some
> errors in it (like the Tile Set for 1853). If you Look at:
> 
> http://18xx.net/tiles/1853.htm
> 
> And See Tile # 94 and # 95, as shown are the same tile. However, if you
> look at the actual copy of the game, each of these tiles should have
> only 4 track segments (2 Normal, 2 Metre) in a K formation, like Tile 96
> and 97.

Thank you, I didn't notice that.  I've just fixed it.

Re: [Rails-devel] CVS and XCode

[Mark S. <mar...@gm...>]

Yep, those look better. When I first noticed it as I was creating my TileSet
for my Game_18xx Engine I thought at first it was my mistake, and pulled out
my copy of 1853 and double-checked.  But all good now.

Mark

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:59 PM, John David Galt <
jd...@di...> wrote:

> Mark Smith wrote:
> > No toes were hurt by the message. I was just confirming the validity of
> > your statement about not trusting an actual printed copy of the game. I
> > have seen some site, even www.18xx.net <http://www.18xx.net> have some
> > errors in it (like the Tile Set for 1853). If you Look at:
> >
> > http://18xx.net/tiles/1853.htm
> >
> > And See Tile # 94 and # 95, as shown are the same tile. However, if you
> > look at the actual copy of the game, each of these tiles should have
> > only 4 track segments (2 Normal, 2 Metre) in a K formation, like Tile 96
> > and 97.
>
> Thank you, I didn't notice that.  I've just fixed it.
>
>
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