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From: Jim B. <ji...@ko...> - 2010-08-31 23:36:51
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Hi Stefan, I'm just trying 1.4 here and wanted to comment on this: > Here I assume that the usage pattern is: Take action and then add the comment. > So comments always relate to the previous action and the quote is attributed > to the last action owner . I don't agree with this part, - when it's /my/ turn, and I make a comment, it's annotating the game record with the /previous/ player- that's not right. The game comment is being made by the /current/ player- in general, 99% of the time, that's who's staring at the screen. Since it quote the previous-player instead, when I speak on my turn, I can't comment during my own move at all- that seems broken. my two cents, - jim |
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From: Phil D. <de...@gm...> - 2010-09-01 13:52:25
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But you can comment immediately after your move before you save and send it on to another player, currently it will comment after each action as the person who tooksaid action. That has a logic about it that is consistent. To be honest, I'm not yet sure which I prefer, commenting before you take an action or commenting after, both seem fairly logical and I think which you prefer will end up being personal preference. Phil On 1 September 2010 00:36, Jim Black <ji...@ko...> wrote: > > Hi Stefan, I'm just trying 1.4 here and wanted to comment on this: > >> Here I assume that the usage pattern is: Take action and then add the comment. >> So comments always relate to the previous action and the quote is attributed >> to the last action owner . > > I don't agree with this part, - when it's /my/ turn, and I make a comment, it's annotating the game record with the /previous/ player- that's not right. The game comment is being made by the /current/ player- in general, 99% of the time, that's who's staring at the screen. > > Since it quote the previous-player instead, when I speak on my turn, I can't comment during my own move at all- that seems broken. > > my two cents, > - jim > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: > > Show off your parallel programming skills. > Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
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From: Chris S. <chr...@gm...> - 2010-09-01 14:19:41
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It would be nice if this were a configuration option. It might also be nice to have a drop down menu associated with the comment entry box, so the player could change the name of the current commenter. -- Chris Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Phil Davies <de...@gm...> wrote: > But you can comment immediately after your move before you save and > send it on to another player, currently it will comment after each > action as the person who tooksaid action. That has a logic about it > that is consistent. To be honest, I'm not yet sure which I prefer, > commenting before you take an action or commenting after, both seem > fairly logical and I think which you prefer will end up being personal > preference. > > Phil > > On 1 September 2010 00:36, Jim Black <ji...@ko...> wrote: > > > > Hi Stefan, I'm just trying 1.4 here and wanted to comment on this: > > > >> Here I assume that the usage pattern is: Take action and then add the > comment. > >> So comments always relate to the previous action and the quote is > attributed > >> to the last action owner . > > > > I don't agree with this part, - when it's /my/ turn, and I make a > comment, it's annotating the game record with the /previous/ player- that's > not right. The game comment is being made by the /current/ player- in > general, 99% of the time, that's who's staring at the screen. > > > > Since it quote the previous-player instead, when I speak on my turn, I > can't comment during my own move at all- that seems broken. > > > > my two cents, > > - jim > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: > > > > Show off your parallel programming skills. > > Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: > > Show off your parallel programming skills. > Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
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From: Steve U. <ste...@gm...> - 2010-09-01 15:35:02
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Exactly what I was thinking. Steve Undy st...@ro... On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...>wrote: > It would be nice if this were a configuration option. > > It might also be nice to have a drop down menu associated with the comment > entry box, so the player could change the name of the current commenter. > > > -- > Chris > > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Phil Davies <de...@gm...> wrote: > >> But you can comment immediately after your move before you save and >> send it on to another player, currently it will comment after each >> action as the person who tooksaid action. That has a logic about it >> that is consistent. To be honest, I'm not yet sure which I prefer, >> commenting before you take an action or commenting after, both seem >> fairly logical and I think which you prefer will end up being personal >> preference. >> >> Phil >> >> On 1 September 2010 00:36, Jim Black <ji...@ko...> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Stefan, I'm just trying 1.4 here and wanted to comment on this: >> > >> >> Here I assume that the usage pattern is: Take action and then add the >> comment. >> >> So comments always relate to the previous action and the quote is >> attributed >> >> to the last action owner . >> > >> > I don't agree with this part, - when it's /my/ turn, and I make a >> comment, it's annotating the game record with the /previous/ player- that's >> not right. The game comment is being made by the /current/ player- in >> general, 99% of the time, that's who's staring at the screen. >> > >> > Since it quote the previous-player instead, when I speak on my turn, I >> can't comment during my own move at all- that seems broken. >> > >> > my two cents, >> > - jim >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: >> > >> > Show off your parallel programming skills. >> > Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rails-devel mailing list >> > Rai...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: >> >> Show off your parallel programming skills. >> Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails-devel mailing list >> Rai...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: > > Show off your parallel programming skills. > Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > |
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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2010-09-01 21:57:03
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Thanks for all your opinions/suggestions. I imagined that the decision about the sequence of comments/actions was merely arbitrary. In any case I still hope it is not broken, as there are several workarounds available. Stefan Some comments on game comments: The current implementation simply stores a String associated with each action. The quote is attributed to the owner of the according game action. I will not change that for the time being (online play will require a different communication model anyway), this restricts improvements for the time being. A) There are two possibilities on the sequence: - Either act, then comment - Or comment, then act. I thought that the former is the more natural choice. I also thought that adapting to the other style would not that of an issue, but it is simple to add an additional button and have "comment previous" and "comment next" buttons. B) Other players commenting: See above, this is not straight forward to do with full support by the program. What is possible already is to add the other players comment and the players reference on its own. (Remark: It is always possible to extend/adjust comments for any player) On Wednesday, September 01, 2010 04:19:34 pm Chris Shaffer wrote: > It would be nice if this were a configuration option. > > It might also be nice to have a drop down menu associated with the comment > entry box, so the player could change the name of the current commenter. > > -- > Chris > > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Phil Davies <de...@gm...> wrote: > > But you can comment immediately after your move before you save and > > send it on to another player, currently it will comment after each > > action as the person who tooksaid action. That has a logic about it > > that is consistent. To be honest, I'm not yet sure which I prefer, > > commenting before you take an action or commenting after, both seem > > fairly logical and I think which you prefer will end up being personal > > preference. > > > > Phil > > > > On 1 September 2010 00:36, Jim Black <ji...@ko...> wrote: > > > Hi Stefan, I'm just trying 1.4 here and wanted to comment on this: > > >> Here I assume that the usage pattern is: Take action and then add the > > > > comment. > > > > >> So comments always relate to the previous action and the quote is > > > > attributed > > > > >> to the last action owner . > > > > > > I don't agree with this part, - when it's /my/ turn, and I make a > > > > comment, it's annotating the game record with the /previous/ player- > > that's not right. The game comment is being made by the /current/ > > player- in general, 99% of the time, that's who's staring at the screen. > > > > > Since it quote the previous-player instead, when I speak on my turn, I > > > > can't comment during my own move at all- that seems broken. > > > > > my two cents, > > > > > > - jim > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- > > > > > This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: > > > > > > Show off your parallel programming skills. > > > Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails-devel mailing list > > > Rai...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: > > > > Show off your parallel programming skills. > > Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel |
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