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[Rails-devel] Half-hexes for 1825

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

A while ago, Stefan sent me some half-hex tiles for use at the borders
between of 1825 units.  It is allowed to lay track against such borders, but
there was no visual cue that it was allowed.

I have now updated Unit 1 to use these half-tiles. It's still experimental.
At the top border (with Unit 2 and R3) it looks fine, but at the left border
(with kits R1 and R2) it doesn't look very pretty.  Try it and you'll see
what I mean.  Or check the attached image.

To improve this, I think we need a duplicate of the empty hex tile #0
(numbered e.g. #-25000), i.e. a full hex. The sole difference with #0 would
be that it cannot be upgraded.  
The downside would be that now users would see full normally-looking hexes
that yet cannot be upgraded.  So I wonder if we shouldn't give such tiles
(and also the half-tiles)  a different background colour, such as the "buff"
colour that is in fact used in 1825 for empty hexes.

Erik.

Re: [Rails-devel] Half-hexes for 1825

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

Erik:
As a proposal I have attached new tiles that show a double hatch pattern
over the standard colors to indicate that this a tile that allows laying 
against, but not laying into.

I have attached both half-tiles and a full tile.
In addition there is a snapshot showing your current setup with half-tiles
with the pattern added.

I would even recommend adding a full or half-tile with a blue (maritime) 
background to show that at the south/eastern edge a tile lay against the 
border is not possible. I know that this is the current default (laying 
against the border is forbidden), but I would prefer having more visual clues 
for that as long as we do not have background maps as default for all games.
Stefan



On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:10:36 pm Erik Vos wrote:
> A while ago, Stefan sent me some half-hex tiles for use at the borders
> between of 1825 units.  It is allowed to lay track against such borders,
> but there was no visual cue that it was allowed.
> 
> I have now updated Unit 1 to use these half-tiles. It's still experimental.
> At the top border (with Unit 2 and R3) it looks fine, but at the left
> border (with kits R1 and R2) it doesn't look very pretty.  Try it and
> you'll see what I mean.  Or check the attached image.
> 
> To improve this, I think we need a duplicate of the empty hex tile #0
> (numbered e.g. #-25000), i.e. a full hex. The sole difference with #0 would
> be that it cannot be upgraded.
> The downside would be that now users would see full normally-looking hexes
> that yet cannot be upgraded.  So I wonder if we shouldn't give such tiles
> (and also the half-tiles)  a different background colour, such as the
> "buff" colour that is in fact used in 1825 for empty hexes.
> 
> Erik.

Re: [Rails-devel] Half-hexes for 1825

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...]

> As a proposal I have attached new tiles that show a double hatch pattern
> over the standard colors to indicate that this a tile that allows laying
against,
> but not laying into.
> 
> I have attached both half-tiles and a full tile.
> In addition there is a snapshot showing your current setup with half-tiles
with
> the pattern added.

Very good!  I'm going to finish the 1825 map borders with these tiles.

> I would even recommend adding a full or half-tile with a blue (maritime)
> background to show that at the south/eastern edge a tile lay against the
> border is not possible. I know that this is the current default (laying
against
> the border is forbidden), but I would prefer having more visual clues for
that
> as long as we do not have background maps as default for all games.

Yes, I agree.  We already have a blue tile for the 18EU ports, I would
propose to align with that colour.

Erik.

[Rails-devel] Water hex tile (was: Half-hexes for 1825)

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

Erik,
there is no blue tile for 18EU ports defined: They use tile -800 which is 
gray. 

However on the svg background map, there are blueish port tiles: I picked 
that color (#00CCFF) and used that to define a blue equivalent to 
tile 0.

I will leave the honor to you to assign a tile number ;-)

If you need blue half-tiles, those are pretty easy to create, as you simply 
take my previous one and simply edit the SVG-file in a text editor and replace 
the color value for the fill attribute.

Stefan


> Yes, I agree.  We already have a blue tile for the 18EU ports, I would
> propose to align with that colour.
> 
> Erik.
> 
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Re: [Rails-devel] Water hex tile (was: Half-hexes for 1825)

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

I did create some water tiles before, but indeed different ones: ferries
(numbers -4007 through -4009).  One of these is used in 18Scan.
These tiles have a somewhat darker blue colour (#60A0FF), which I actually
prefer, and intend to use for empty water tiles as well.
Please run 18Scan for a comparison.

I have assigned -4000 to a full water tile, and -4004 and -4005 for half
tiles. I'll commit these tiles and update 1825 later.

Erik.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...]
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 11:51 AM
> To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
> Subject: [Rails-devel] Water hex tile (was: Half-hexes for 1825)
> 
> Erik,
> there is no blue tile for 18EU ports defined: They use tile -800 which is
gray.
> 
> However on the svg background map, there are blueish port tiles: I picked
> that color (#00CCFF) and used that to define a blue equivalent to tile 0.
> 
> I will leave the honor to you to assign a tile number ;-)
> 
> If you need blue half-tiles, those are pretty easy to create, as you
simply take
> my previous one and simply edit the SVG-file in a text editor and replace
the
> color value for the fill attribute.
> 
> Stefan
> 
> 
> > Yes, I agree.  We already have a blue tile for the 18EU ports, I would
> > propose to align with that colour.
> >
> > Erik.
> >
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