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Re: [Rails-devel] place of versionNr. localisedText

[Rainer M. <rai...@we...>]

>On the version number, I wonder if we can't better leave that
>hardcoded. 
>The number is used to find the right jar file to retrieve XML files 
>and tile pictures. So it should not be tampered with. 
> 
>I have seen versions numbers automatically generated in some 
>development environments. In such cases, the generator changes 
>the source code to insert the version number in some predefined
>place. 
We do this at Work, using a project-spezific-property-file, witch is packed
in the project.jar
the default user.properties are not in the jar, only in the
packed-distribution-file.

>In our case, it is included in LocalText (which is probably not 
>the right place, I would prefer to move it to Game). 
Before we use a property-file for the system-spezific-constants, we use the
Main-Class, having an Interface, so non-project-spezifik classes can use
this information
If Games is such a Main class for non-ui-stuff, this would be a good place
for it
But as I read my digits father, you have allready done it - great.



>I have been thinking on how we can best manage our resource bundles 
>(i.e. versions of LocalisedText_aa_BB.properties). 
>The contents may still be a bit fluid, although it will 
>settle down somewhat now all messages (should) have been included. 
> 
>I'm in favour of removing all comments and just leaving the 
>properties, sorted alphabetically. The sorting makes a comparison of 
>different versions very easy in a side-by-side scroller like
>WinMerge. 
>This means that we have to drop all pretension of having the 
>bundle internally organised in some way, but that would be 
>hard to do and maintain anyhow. 
> 
>In the past I have used this alphabetic sort in a commercial 
>application with texts in 6 languages, and this way it was very 
>easy to spot differences (missing or redundant entries). 
> 
>What do you think? 
Some Comments are not up to date - right?
I would prefer a mix - main groups and alphabetic order insite a group.
So a User has not to translate the hole file, if he just need the normal
ui-element to play with a friend, who can not read english.
But as I read my digits, you have allready done it.

Regards
Rainer

[Rails-devel] Rails-Package

[Rainer M. <rai...@we...>]

>> I propose that we agree beforehand upon the person who does it, and 
>> the time that it will be done, so that anyone else can stay away for a 
>> while.
>>
>> I would be prepard to do it next Sunday,
>> probably in the (European) afternoon.
>>
>
>I'm not sure if I'll have time before then.
>

I haved reserved the Saturday for rails, doing RailsMain and swing.* or
layout moving.
Whatever you want. Please think about the general project layout before
breaking the CVS-History.

Regards
Rainer

Re: [Rails-devel] place of versionNr. localisedText

[Erik V. <eri...@hc...>]

> >In our case, it is included in LocalText (which is probably not 
> >the right place, I would prefer to move it to Game). 
> Before we use a property-file for the 
> system-spezific-constants, we use the
> Main-Class, having an Interface, so non-project-spezifik 
> classes can use
> this information
> If Games is such a Main class for non-ui-stuff, this would be 
> a good place
> for it
> But as I read my digits father, you have allready done it - great.

Game is kind of a main class for the game engine itself,
so this looked a logical place to me.

> >I have been thinking on how we can best manage our resource bundles 
> >(i.e. versions of LocalisedText_aa_BB.properties). 
> >The contents may still be a bit fluid, although it will 
> >settle down somewhat now all messages (should) have been included. 
> > 
> >I'm in favour of removing all comments and just leaving the 
> >properties, sorted alphabetically. The sorting makes a comparison of 
> >different versions very easy in a side-by-side scroller like
> >WinMerge. 
> >This means that we have to drop all pretension of having the 
> >bundle internally organised in some way, but that would be 
> >hard to do and maintain anyhow. 
> > 
> >In the past I have used this alphabetic sort in a commercial 
> >application with texts in 6 languages, and this way it was very 
> >easy to spot differences (missing or redundant entries). 
> > 
> >What do you think? 
> Some Comments are not up to date - right?
> I would prefer a mix - main groups and alphabetic order 
> insite a group.
> So a User has not to translate the hole file, if he just need 
> the normal
> ui-element to play with a friend, who can not read english.
> But as I read my digits, you have allready done it.

... yes, I had some spare time. Simple things can go fast with me...

I had not thought of your proposal which looks reasonable to me.
And indeed, TextPad (which I used for the sort) can sort selections as well.

The old file was badly organised, mostly because I was too lazy
to think about how to organise it, and even to stick to Brett's 
initial setup.
But if you know how to structure a resource bundle, feel free....

Erik.