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[Rails-devel] Rails 2.0 RC1 1835 bug

[Schnell, V. <vol...@ar...>]

Hi,

a little bug in Rails 20. RC1.
The Pru was started in the Operating round. 4 Minors (M3, M5, BB and HB) 
were not exchanged.

At the End of the operating Round all owning Players are asked, to 
exchange or not.
Rails starts with the actual President. see attached Picture. (ie. Sven)

The Rules states, it begins with the starting Player. (Klaus-Jürgen)


The attached save-Files is at the moment before the Exchange.

greetings
Volker

-- 
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email: vol...@ar...
homepage: home.arcor.de\volker_schnell

Re: [Rails-devel] 1880 Playerorder bug after Investor pick

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

Thanks, okay that helps. It does not appear on reload, but only in a 
play-through sequence.

Should be easy to find, hopefully easy to fix as well. ;-)


On 10/12/2015 06:02 PM, Martin Brumm wrote:
> Am 12.10.2015 um 16:59 schrieb Stefan Frey:
>> Martin:
>> thanks for the provide file. However it works correctly on my computer.
>>
>> What is the branch/release you were testing on?
>> Mine were rails_2_maintenance and RC1.
>>
>> If you did the same (and you get the same result loading the file on
>> your computer now), it is a undo/redo bug and we have to check if the UI
>> gets updated correctly if the player order changes by undo/redo.
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>> On 10/09/2015 10:38 AM, Martin Brumm wrote:
>>> Am 09.10.2015 um 10:17 schrieb Stefan Frey:
>>>> Martin:
>>>> same question as always: Do you have save file with the sequence of actions?
>>>> Otherwise debug is difficult. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Hope you made a save return from Essen. I was glad to meet you there.
>>>>
>>>> Stefan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/09/2015 10:01 AM, Martin Brumm wrote:
>>>>> Good morning,
>>>>> please find enclosed the pictures showing a bug in the Highlighting of
>>>>> Players (Director) and the player order in 1880 after the investor round.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Order should be Ronnie, Stefan, Martin, Lonny, and Ronnie should
>>>>> have the PD.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> Please find enclosed the savegame. Problem is that the display of the
>>> playerorder is wrong the internal kept Playerorder is valid and the
>>> actions are requested from the right persons and attributed to the
>>> correct persons.
>>> Regards,
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Hi Stefan,
>
> on reloading the savegame the correct order is displayed. Just that the
> order isnt displayed correctly upon playing. Just try the ATG-Game 2
> with a save game before the rocket was sold :)
>
> REgards,
> Martin
>
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] 1880 Playerorder bug after Investor pick

[Martin B. <dr....@t-...>]

Am 12.10.2015 um 16:59 schrieb Stefan Frey:
> Martin:
> thanks for the provide file. However it works correctly on my computer.
>
> What is the branch/release you were testing on?
> Mine were rails_2_maintenance and RC1.
>
> If you did the same (and you get the same result loading the file on 
> your computer now), it is a undo/redo bug and we have to check if the UI 
> gets updated correctly if the player order changes by undo/redo.
>
> Stefan
>
>
> On 10/09/2015 10:38 AM, Martin Brumm wrote:
>> Am 09.10.2015 um 10:17 schrieb Stefan Frey:
>>> Martin:
>>> same question as always: Do you have save file with the sequence of actions?
>>> Otherwise debug is difficult. ;-)
>>>
>>> Hope you made a save return from Essen. I was glad to meet you there.
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/09/2015 10:01 AM, Martin Brumm wrote:
>>>> Good morning,
>>>> please find enclosed the pictures showing a bug in the Highlighting of
>>>> Players (Director) and the player order in 1880 after the investor round.
>>>>
>>>> The Order should be Ronnie, Stefan, Martin, Lonny, and Ronnie should
>>>> have the PD.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> Please find enclosed the savegame. Problem is that the display of the
>> playerorder is wrong the internal kept Playerorder is valid and the
>> actions are requested from the right persons and attributed to the
>> correct persons.
>> Regards,
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>>
Hi Stefan,

on reloading the savegame the correct order is displayed. Just that the
order isnt displayed correctly upon playing. Just try the ATG-Game 2
with a save game before the rocket was sold :)

REgards,
Martin

Re: [Rails-devel] 1880 Playerorder bug after Investor pick

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

Martin:
thanks for the provide file. However it works correctly on my computer.

What is the branch/release you were testing on?
Mine were rails_2_maintenance and RC1.

If you did the same (and you get the same result loading the file on 
your computer now), it is a undo/redo bug and we have to check if the UI 
gets updated correctly if the player order changes by undo/redo.

Stefan


On 10/09/2015 10:38 AM, Martin Brumm wrote:
> Am 09.10.2015 um 10:17 schrieb Stefan Frey:
>> Martin:
>> same question as always: Do you have save file with the sequence of actions?
>> Otherwise debug is difficult. ;-)
>>
>> Hope you made a save return from Essen. I was glad to meet you there.
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>> On 10/09/2015 10:01 AM, Martin Brumm wrote:
>>> Good morning,
>>> please find enclosed the pictures showing a bug in the Highlighting of
>>> Players (Director) and the player order in 1880 after the investor round.
>>>
>>> The Order should be Ronnie, Stefan, Martin, Lonny, and Ronnie should
>>> have the PD.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Please find enclosed the savegame. Problem is that the display of the
> playerorder is wrong the internal kept Playerorder is valid and the
> actions are requested from the right persons and attributed to the
> correct persons.
> Regards,
> Martin
>
>
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] 1880 Playerorder bug after Investor pick

[Martin B. <dr....@t-...>]

Am 09.10.2015 um 10:17 schrieb Stefan Frey:
> Martin:
> same question as always: Do you have save file with the sequence of actions?
> Otherwise debug is difficult. ;-)
>
> Hope you made a save return from Essen. I was glad to meet you there.
>
> Stefan
>
>
> On 10/09/2015 10:01 AM, Martin Brumm wrote:
>> Good morning,
>> please find enclosed the pictures showing a bug in the Highlighting of
>> Players (Director) and the player order in 1880 after the investor round.
>>
>> The Order should be Ronnie, Stefan, Martin, Lonny, and Ronnie should
>> have the PD.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>
Please find enclosed the savegame. Problem is that the display of the
playerorder is wrong the internal kept Playerorder is valid and the
actions are requested from the right persons and attributed to the
correct persons.
Regards,
Martin

Re: [Rails-devel] 1880 Playerorder bug after Investor pick

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

Martin:
same question as always: Do you have save file with the sequence of actions?
Otherwise debug is difficult. ;-)

Hope you made a save return from Essen. I was glad to meet you there.

Stefan


On 10/09/2015 10:01 AM, Martin Brumm wrote:
> Good morning,
> please find enclosed the pictures showing a bug in the Highlighting of
> Players (Director) and the player order in 1880 after the investor round.
>
> The Order should be Ronnie, Stefan, Martin, Lonny, and Ronnie should
> have the PD.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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[Rails-devel] 1880 Playerorder bug after Investor pick

[Martin B. <dr....@t-...>]

Good morning,
please find enclosed the pictures showing a bug in the Highlighting of
Players (Director) and the player order in 1880 after the investor round.

The Order should be Ronnie, Stefan, Martin, Lonny, and Ronnie should
have the PD.

Regards,

Re: [Rails-devel] [Rails-users] Company panel during OR

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

p.s. I had no idea ORDocking was available. It's somewhat obscurely named
and I was surprised to realize I have to choose between PrettyUI and
ORDocking - why can't I have both?

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 7:13 AM Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...>
wrote:

> Every time I see a table, I like to be able to click the column headers to
> sort. Sometimes, it's useful to sort companies by treasury (to see who is
> able to buy trains), sometimes alphabetically (if there are a lot of
> companies), sometimes floated vs. unfloated, sometimes number of shares in
> particular locations (e.g. sort by number of shares in the pool in 1844 or
> 1817). In 1880, you want to sort by par value (which is also operating
> order, but could show you which par values are still available). Some of
> the columns may not matter, but if the UI is changed to allow sorting by
> column headers, why not enable all of them?
>
> In regard to what information should be available, the answer is of course
> "all." However, it would be nice to have a single place to go look at all
> the company information. If I'm on a small screen, I can toggle between
> viewing the map and viewing the table of companies. If I'm on a large
> screen, I can display those windows side by side. Right now, we get some of
> the information in a table attached to the map, and some information in
> another table in the game status window - and some of it is duplicated in
> both places. I'd like to have it all in one place that's easy to access.
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 1:34 AM Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> wrote:
>
>> Chris and John:
>> Thanks for your proposals.
>>
>> Some general comments first:
>>
>> * Greater improvements to the UI require substantial code-changes and
>> will only happen over longer time frames. So there is enough time to
>> discuss those. Current changes are small hacks in the current code, so
>> some things are easy to introduce, others are close to impossible.
>>
>> * There is a docking framework that Frederick Weld implemented for the
>> operating round. This allows to separate the Map from the OR Panel. You
>> can activate it in the configuration window or by simply choosing the
>> "ORDocking" configuration profile.
>>
>> * It seems that there is consensus that most information on companies
>> should be moved to the Game Status window. However is there information
>> that is can be removed?
>>
>> * What is the remaining information that should be visible during the
>> Operating Round?
>>
>>
>>  > John David Galt:
>> >
>> > If I had my way, companies would be displayed in only one place -- the
>> > Game Status window -- and it would have columns added to be able to show
>> > tile and token lays.  The map window should contain only the map and the
>> > operating-round controls.
>> >
>> > If the devs aren't willing to change that, second best would be to make
>> > the dividing bar between the map section and the company section of the
>> > map window moveable by dragging it with the mouse, the way you can do it
>> > in Windows' File Explorer and in Mozilla Thunderbird's main display.
>> > This would be especially helpful when trying to play a game with lots of
>> > companies (like 18EU or 1837) on a small screen.  As it is now, if
>> > playing on a computer with a 1024x768 monitor, you can wind up having to
>> > go most of the way through 18EU (all the way up to the minor company
>> > merger round) before you're allowed to see more than a tiny "letterbox"
>> > slice of the map.  I'm sure it's even worse on mobile devices.
>> >
>>
>> - You could potentially use the Docking configuration already to show
>> the full map.
>>
>> - Do you really need the information on tile and token lays part of that
>> table? This information is also available in the Game Report window.
>>
>>  > Chris Schaffer:
>>  >
>> > I like John's suggestion of having company info in one table -
>>  > and I would add to that the ability to sort the table by various
>> metrics, including operating order.
>>
>> - Do you agree that the company info should be in the game status table?
>> Or another separate table, however not linked to the map. Again this is
>> possible using the Docking configuration.
>>
>> - What other metric would you like to sort on?
>>
>>
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Re: [Rails-devel] [Rails-users] Company panel during OR

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

Every time I see a table, I like to be able to click the column headers to
sort. Sometimes, it's useful to sort companies by treasury (to see who is
able to buy trains), sometimes alphabetically (if there are a lot of
companies), sometimes floated vs. unfloated, sometimes number of shares in
particular locations (e.g. sort by number of shares in the pool in 1844 or
1817). In 1880, you want to sort by par value (which is also operating
order, but could show you which par values are still available). Some of
the columns may not matter, but if the UI is changed to allow sorting by
column headers, why not enable all of them?

In regard to what information should be available, the answer is of course
"all." However, it would be nice to have a single place to go look at all
the company information. If I'm on a small screen, I can toggle between
viewing the map and viewing the table of companies. If I'm on a large
screen, I can display those windows side by side. Right now, we get some of
the information in a table attached to the map, and some information in
another table in the game status window - and some of it is duplicated in
both places. I'd like to have it all in one place that's easy to access.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 1:34 AM Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> wrote:

> Chris and John:
> Thanks for your proposals.
>
> Some general comments first:
>
> * Greater improvements to the UI require substantial code-changes and
> will only happen over longer time frames. So there is enough time to
> discuss those. Current changes are small hacks in the current code, so
> some things are easy to introduce, others are close to impossible.
>
> * There is a docking framework that Frederick Weld implemented for the
> operating round. This allows to separate the Map from the OR Panel. You
> can activate it in the configuration window or by simply choosing the
> "ORDocking" configuration profile.
>
> * It seems that there is consensus that most information on companies
> should be moved to the Game Status window. However is there information
> that is can be removed?
>
> * What is the remaining information that should be visible during the
> Operating Round?
>
>
>  > John David Galt:
> >
> > If I had my way, companies would be displayed in only one place -- the
> > Game Status window -- and it would have columns added to be able to show
> > tile and token lays.  The map window should contain only the map and the
> > operating-round controls.
> >
> > If the devs aren't willing to change that, second best would be to make
> > the dividing bar between the map section and the company section of the
> > map window moveable by dragging it with the mouse, the way you can do it
> > in Windows' File Explorer and in Mozilla Thunderbird's main display.
> > This would be especially helpful when trying to play a game with lots of
> > companies (like 18EU or 1837) on a small screen.  As it is now, if
> > playing on a computer with a 1024x768 monitor, you can wind up having to
> > go most of the way through 18EU (all the way up to the minor company
> > merger round) before you're allowed to see more than a tiny "letterbox"
> > slice of the map.  I'm sure it's even worse on mobile devices.
> >
>
> - You could potentially use the Docking configuration already to show
> the full map.
>
> - Do you really need the information on tile and token lays part of that
> table? This information is also available in the Game Report window.
>
>  > Chris Schaffer:
>  >
> > I like John's suggestion of having company info in one table -
>  > and I would add to that the ability to sort the table by various
> metrics, including operating order.
>
> - Do you agree that the company info should be in the game status table?
> Or another separate table, however not linked to the map. Again this is
> possible using the Docking configuration.
>
> - What other metric would you like to sort on?
>
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] [Rails-users] 1880 Issues

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

Potentially a fix that was not picked-up from 1.8.x into 2.0?

On 10/05/2015 11:09 PM, Martin Brumm wrote:
> Am 05.10.2015 um 19:54 schrieb Stefan Frey:
>> Martin:
>> you added a fix for the stockmarket.
>>
>> Have you looked into the other issue as well?
>>
>> Otherwise I will check that: The rocket should be usable before the
>> revenue calculation step, that is one of the neat tricks. Is the Rocket
>> not shown as an option in the special menu?
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>> On 10/02/2015 11:51 PM, Malte Steffens wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I tried 1880 with rails 2.0 and found a mistake in the stockchart. At
>>> the place 8F  has to be a 80 spot. Additional I have a question
>>> regarding the Rocket of China. At the moment you can only use it in
>>> contradiction to the rules only in the train buying step, right? Or have
>>> I overlooked something.
>>>
>>> Thanks and Greetings
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Hi Stefan,
> i had a game where i played the rocket and was able to exchange it in
> time for the first run.
> So i think there is the right mechanismn in place already.
> I can recheck tomorrow evening.
>
> Regards,
> Martin
>
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] [Rails-users] Company panel during OR

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

Chris and John:
Thanks for your proposals.

Some general comments first:

* Greater improvements to the UI require substantial code-changes and 
will only happen over longer time frames. So there is enough time to 
discuss those. Current changes are small hacks in the current code, so 
some things are easy to introduce, others are close to impossible.

* There is a docking framework that Frederick Weld implemented for the 
operating round. This allows to separate the Map from the OR Panel. You 
can activate it in the configuration window or by simply choosing the 
"ORDocking" configuration profile.

* It seems that there is consensus that most information on companies 
should be moved to the Game Status window. However is there information 
that is can be removed?

* What is the remaining information that should be visible during the 
Operating Round?


 > John David Galt:
>
> If I had my way, companies would be displayed in only one place -- the
> Game Status window -- and it would have columns added to be able to show
> tile and token lays.  The map window should contain only the map and the
> operating-round controls.
>
> If the devs aren't willing to change that, second best would be to make
> the dividing bar between the map section and the company section of the
> map window moveable by dragging it with the mouse, the way you can do it
> in Windows' File Explorer and in Mozilla Thunderbird's main display.
> This would be especially helpful when trying to play a game with lots of
> companies (like 18EU or 1837) on a small screen.  As it is now, if
> playing on a computer with a 1024x768 monitor, you can wind up having to
> go most of the way through 18EU (all the way up to the minor company
> merger round) before you're allowed to see more than a tiny "letterbox"
> slice of the map.  I'm sure it's even worse on mobile devices.
>

- You could potentially use the Docking configuration already to show 
the full map.

- Do you really need the information on tile and token lays part of that 
table? This information is also available in the Game Report window.

 > Chris Schaffer:
 >
> I like John's suggestion of having company info in one table -
 > and I would add to that the ability to sort the table by various 
metrics, including operating order.

- Do you agree that the company info should be in the game status table? 
Or another separate table, however not linked to the map. Again this is 
possible using the Docking configuration.

- What other metric would you like to sort on?

Re: [Rails-devel] Company panel during OR

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

I like John's suggestion of having company info in one table - and I would
add to that the ability to sort the table by various metrics, including
operating order.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 3:11 PM John David Galt <
jd...@di...> wrote:

> On 2015-10-05 11:06, Stefan Frey wrote:
> > Luiz:
> > first thanks for the save files.
> >
> > The bug you reported is actually intended as a feature... ;-)
> >
> > During Tile and Token Lays and Revenue Calculation only the current
> > operating company is shown to maximize the area to display the map.
> >
> > Only during Train Buying all companies are shown.
> >
> > To All:
> >
> > What do you think? There has to be a solution for those games that
> > feature too many companies.
> >
> > One idea is to allow the user change the mode (single versus all) by
> > double-clicking on the company panel?
>
> If I had my way, companies would be displayed in only one place -- the
> Game Status window -- and it would have columns added to be able to show
> tile and token lays.  The map window should contain only the map and the
> operating-round controls.
>
> If the devs aren't willing to change that, second best would be to make
> the dividing bar between the map section and the company section of the
> map window moveable by dragging it with the mouse, the way you can do it
> in Windows' File Explorer and in Mozilla Thunderbird's main display.
> This would be especially helpful when trying to play a game with lots of
> companies (like 18EU or 1837) on a small screen.  As it is now, if
> playing on a computer with a 1024x768 monitor, you can wind up having to
> go most of the way through 18EU (all the way up to the minor company
> merger round) before you're allowed to see more than a tiny "letterbox"
> slice of the map.  I'm sure it's even worse on mobile devices.
>
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] Company panel during OR

[John D. G. <jd...@di...>]

On 2015-10-05 11:06, Stefan Frey wrote:
> Luiz:
> first thanks for the save files.
> 
> The bug you reported is actually intended as a feature... ;-)
> 
> During Tile and Token Lays and Revenue Calculation only the current 
> operating company is shown to maximize the area to display the map.
> 
> Only during Train Buying all companies are shown.
> 
> To All:
> 
> What do you think? There has to be a solution for those games that 
> feature too many companies.
> 
> One idea is to allow the user change the mode (single versus all) by 
> double-clicking on the company panel?

If I had my way, companies would be displayed in only one place -- the
Game Status window -- and it would have columns added to be able to show
tile and token lays.  The map window should contain only the map and the
operating-round controls.

If the devs aren't willing to change that, second best would be to make
the dividing bar between the map section and the company section of the
map window moveable by dragging it with the mouse, the way you can do it
in Windows' File Explorer and in Mozilla Thunderbird's main display.
This would be especially helpful when trying to play a game with lots of
companies (like 18EU or 1837) on a small screen.  As it is now, if
playing on a computer with a 1024x768 monitor, you can wind up having to
go most of the way through 18EU (all the way up to the minor company
merger round) before you're allowed to see more than a tiny "letterbox"
slice of the map.  I'm sure it's even worse on mobile devices.

Re: [Rails-devel] [Rails-users] 1880 Issues

[Martin B. <dr....@t-...>]

Am 05.10.2015 um 19:54 schrieb Stefan Frey:
> Martin:
> you added a fix for the stockmarket.
>
> Have you looked into the other issue as well?
>
> Otherwise I will check that: The rocket should be usable before the 
> revenue calculation step, that is one of the neat tricks. Is the Rocket 
> not shown as an option in the special menu?
>
> Stefan
>
>
> On 10/02/2015 11:51 PM, Malte Steffens wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I tried 1880 with rails 2.0 and found a mistake in the stockchart. At
>> the place 8F  has to be a 80 spot. Additional I have a question
>> regarding the Rocket of China. At the moment you can only use it in
>> contradiction to the rules only in the train buying step, right? Or have
>> I overlooked something.
>>
>> Thanks and Greetings
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
Hi Stefan,
i had a game where i played the rocket and was able to exchange it in
time for the first run.
So i think there is the right mechanismn in place already.
I can recheck tomorrow evening.

Regards,
Martin

[Rails-devel] Company panel during OR (was: Rails save files for 1856)

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

Luiz:
first thanks for the save files.

The bug you reported is actually intended as a feature... ;-)

During Tile and Token Lays and Revenue Calculation only the current 
operating company is shown to maximize the area to display the map.

Only during Train Buying all companies are shown.

To All:

What do you think? There has to be a solution for those games that 
feature too many companies.

One idea is to allow the user change the mode (single versus all) by 
double-clicking on the company panel?


On 10/04/2015 02:52 PM, Luiz Cláudio S. Duarte wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:48:14 +0200
> Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> wrote:
>
>> The call for save files for 18EU allowed to fix several specific bugs
>> for that game in 2.0.
>>
>> As the coverage of 1856 is pretty sparse and it deviates
>> substantially from 1830 can I ask all of you for 1856 save files in a
>> similar fashion as before?
>
> Stefan, the two attached files are from a current 1856 game. As you can
> see in the screen capture, in the map window there is a detail line for
> only one of the seven active companies.
>
> I hope this can be useful. Best regards!
>
>
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] [Rails-users] 1880 Issues

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

Martin:
you added a fix for the stockmarket.

Have you looked into the other issue as well?

Otherwise I will check that: The rocket should be usable before the 
revenue calculation step, that is one of the neat tricks. Is the Rocket 
not shown as an option in the special menu?

Stefan


On 10/02/2015 11:51 PM, Malte Steffens wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tried 1880 with rails 2.0 and found a mistake in the stockchart. At
> the place 8F  has to be a 80 spot. Additional I have a question
> regarding the Rocket of China. At the moment you can only use it in
> contradiction to the rules only in the train buying step, right? Or have
> I overlooked something.
>
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[Rails-devel] Rails save files for 1856

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

The call for save files for 18EU allowed to fix several specific bugs 
for that game in 2.0.

As the coverage of 1856 is pretty sparse and it deviates substantially 
from 1830 can I ask all of you for 1856 save files in a similar fashion 
as before?

I expect a Release Candidate 2 ready for this weekend.

Thanks,
Stefan

On 09/23/2015 10:01 PM, Stefan Frey wrote:
> To all Rails 18EU players:
> I am currently looking for 18EU save files for Rails.
>
> Best are End-of-Game files, however intermediate files work too, any
> Rails version works fine.
>
> Rails allows automated testing with existing game files to ensure that
> new features do not break existing games. However for 18EU there is no
> full game file and 18EU deviates substantially from 1830.
>
> Please send 18EU files directly to my mail address and I will add them
> to the Rails repository for future testing.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Stefan
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] Mac OS installation

[Freek D. <sf_...@ma...>]

On 10-9-2015 21:20, Stefan Frey wrote:

> as noted in the previous release announcement, creating a signed 
> installer for Mac OS is currently only possible on a Mac OS system itself.

Hi,

I've just tested the current build, and I'm pleased to say that it does
work already. However, I would certainly call this experimental yet.

First, a practical question: could you publish the checksums (md5 or
sha) of the downloads? Some people, including me, are a bit cautious of
SourceForge after their Faux Pas with GIMP.

- Downloads and unpacks succesfully
- Program has no icon
- Does not run with default security settings ("Rails can't be opened
because it is from an unidentified developer"), as expected, since this
is an unsigned build.
- Take a relative long time (30-60 seconds) to start without progress
indication.
- Menus are at the top, once the Game Status or Map window is active.
(not yet when the New Game dialog is shown). I was very happy with that
- Menu structure is distinctly non-mac like (no File menu has unfamiliar
items, Edit menu is missing; menus change).
- Windows and text are coarse, there is no support for a retina display
(except for the menu's, which are hair-sharp)
- info sub-sub-menus contain "<html>" and "<br>" in tekst

All in all, this is definately a great step forward, and I would
certainly use this over the jar file. However, it by far no a polished
Mac app.

Regards,
Freek
(long-time list-lurker)

Re: [Rails-devel] Rails 2.0 release next weekend?

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

As long as it is clear that there is a default and it's easy to switch to
the other versions/options, it doesn't much matter. Creating a game takes
what, about 2 minutes? When you consider the entire investment of playing
the game, that isn't a lot. Forcing people to change a game setup option
because the default isn't the version they want to play is not a big deal.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 12:14 PM Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> wrote:

> John David Galt asked to change it to the published auction variant.
>
> I will stick to that change as I agree with John that in general the
> rules as published should be the default.
>
> A related question is how to handle rule changes from new releases: For
> example the up-coming 1844/1854 will deviate from the previous versions.
> Rails should support the old and the new release. However what should be
> the default?
>
> On 09/23/2015 10:31 PM, John David Galt wrote:
> > On 2015-09-23 13:22, Schnell, Volker wrote:
> >> in 1835 the Clemens-Variant is not the default.
> >
> > I like it that way.
> >
> > For what it's worth, I haven't had time to test 2.0rc1 yet.
> >
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Re: [Rails-devel] Rails 2.0 release next weekend?

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

John David Galt asked to change it to the published auction variant.

I will stick to that change as I agree with John that in general the 
rules as published should be the default.

A related question is how to handle rule changes from new releases: For 
example the up-coming 1844/1854 will deviate from the previous versions.
Rails should support the old and the new release. However what should be 
the default?

On 09/23/2015 10:31 PM, John David Galt wrote:
> On 2015-09-23 13:22, Schnell, Volker wrote:
>> in 1835 the Clemens-Variant is not the default.
>
> I like it that way.
>
> For what it's worth, I haven't had time to test 2.0rc1 yet.
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Re: [Rails-devel] Rails 2.0 release next weekend?

[John D. G. <jd...@di...>]

On 2015-09-23 13:22, Schnell, Volker wrote:
> in 1835 the Clemens-Variant is not the default.

I like it that way.

For what it's worth, I haven't had time to test 2.0rc1 yet.

Re: [Rails-devel] Rails 2.0 release next weekend?

[Schnell, V. <vol...@ar...>]

Hi Stefan,

in 1835 the Clemens-Variant is not the default.

greetings
Volker

Am 23.09.2015 um 21:55 schrieb Stefan Frey:
> All:
> as there is no feedback (at all) to the RC 1, my intention is to release
> 2.0 next weekend.
>
> There are two possibilities, either no one has tested it or there were
> no (serious) bugs anymore. Anyway, in both cases the best thing is to
> proceed. ;-)
>
> However I will still call the Mac package experimental until I get some
> feedback that it works.
>
> Stefan
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Re: [Rails-devel] Rails save files for 18EU

[Schnell, V. <vol...@ar...>]

hi Stefan,
anbei 4 end of game files.

gruß
Volker

Am 23.09.2015 um 22:01 schrieb Stefan Frey:
> To all Rails 18EU players:
> I am currently looking for 18EU save files for Rails.
>
> Best are End-of-Game files, however intermediate files work too, any
> Rails version works fine.
>
> Rails allows automated testing with existing game files to ensure that
> new features do not break existing games. However for 18EU there is no
> full game file and 18EU deviates substantially from 1830.
>
> Please send 18EU files directly to my mail address and I will add them
> to the Rails repository for future testing.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Stefan
>
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[Rails-devel] Rails save files for 18EU

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

To all Rails 18EU players:
I am currently looking for 18EU save files for Rails.

Best are End-of-Game files, however intermediate files work too, any 
Rails version works fine.

Rails allows automated testing with existing game files to ensure that 
new features do not break existing games. However for 18EU there is no 
full game file and 18EU deviates substantially from 1830.

Please send 18EU files directly to my mail address and I will add them 
to the Rails repository for future testing.

Thanks for your help.

Stefan

[Rails-devel] Rails 2.0 release next weekend?

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

All:
as there is no feedback (at all) to the RC 1, my intention is to release 
2.0 next weekend.

There are two possibilities, either no one has tested it or there were 
no (serious) bugs anymore. Anyway, in both cases the best thing is to 
proceed. ;-)

However I will still call the Mac package experimental until I get some 
feedback that it works.

Stefan