Re: [Rails-devel] 1861 development - auctioning of minor companies

[Chris M. <cmo...@gm...>]

I think I like the idea of the StockRoundWithAuctions class.  What I've got
so far is a StartRound that only includes the privates.  Then when the
StockRound kicks off, if N hasn't been sold yet it is the only company
available.  So the sale of N actually happens as part of the StockRound,
not part of the StartRound.

I haven't looked into it carefully yet, but I'm guessing this is going to
require a new UI component similar to the StartRound UI parts.

Chris

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 5:40 AM Erik Vos <eri...@xs...> wrote:

>
>
> Op 30-4-2019 om 22:59 schreef Martin Brumm:
>
> >>         On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:49 AM Chris Moore
> >>         <cmo...@gm... <mailto:cmo...@gm...>> wrote:
> >>
> >>             In 1861 minor companies are auctioned during the stock
> >>             round.  A player may select a minor company to auction and
> >>             place an opening bid, and other players may then bid on it.
> >>
> >>             As far as I've seen this is unique - I think the other
> >>             games only do auctions during the start round.
> >>
> >>             Is that correct?  Would this be a good candidate for a new
> >>             game-specific PossibleAction, handled in a game-specific
> >>             version of StockRound?
> >>
> >>             Thanks,
> >>             Chris
> >>
> > Hi
> > in 18EU this is handled in the Startround_18EU Class.
> > I think it would be easy to add the special action to a native
> > StockRound Class specific to a game. Specially the 1822?? Games use the
> > mechanismn in each StockRound so maybe we could build a new baseclass
> > StockRoundBidding but again if you do it theres no harm in that either
> > way to make it gamespecific or a Class just make sure its documented and
> > reuseable generic, i.e. configurable via the data configuration for
> > different games :)
> > Regards,
> > Martin.
>
> Although it is many years ago that I actively contributed to Rails, I
> haven't lost my interest in its fate, and so it happened that I started
> pondering about this matter.
>
> Indeed 1861 is the first game implemented in Rails that features stock
> round auctions, but as many newer games also have this feature, a
> generic solution would be preferrable.
>
> Adding Stock round auctions will blur the existing strict separation
> between StartRound and StockRound classes. In 1861, the same auction
> style applies to both privates and minors. This will get even worse in a
> game like 1822, where even private companies are auctioned in stock rounds.
>
> So the my first question is: should we maintain the distinction between
> Start and Stock rounds, or work towards an integration of these two? For
> now, I would think it is better to keep these separate, if only because
> existing StartRounds have the characteristic that all its items (the
> StartPacket) must be sold before the "normal" rounds can take off. In
> 1861, this applies to the private companies and the N minor. 1822 does
> not even have a start packet.
>
> However, as the 1861 auction mechanism is the same for all auctionable
> items, such an approach would call for abstracting the auction mechanism
> as such, or its specific 1861 form, from the StartRound into a new
> Auction class hierarchy. I'm not sure if that is possible, but I think
> it is an approach worth thinking about.
>
> For the 1861 StockRound, it may be worth while to create a new
> StockRoundWithAuctions subclass, that adds generic auction handling,
> deferring actual auction handling to some Auction subclass. The 1861
> specifics (such as the initial unavailablity of the green minors) would
> then go to StockRound_1861, being a subclass of StockRoundWithAuctions.
>
> Another, perhaps simpler, approach for 1861, at least for now, could be
> to bypass the StartRound entirely, and add some StartPacket
> functionality to StockRound_1861 or (as an optional feature) to
> StartRoundWithAuctions.
>
> Looking into the Rails 2.0 code, I notice that someone has added an
> abstract StartRound_AuctionOnly class, as a superclass for
> StartRound_1862. I'm not sure if I like that approach, but it may be
> worth investigating in the context of the present discussion.
>
> Erik
>
>
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