Re: [Rails-devel] 1835 Shareprice of Pru at the End of an SR

[Dr. M. B. <dr....@t-...>]

Hi,

let me step in there again.

We do have to make a difference in time/game phase.

Previously the game didnt raise the prie of the prussian if the new 
shares had been sold out because there were still the reserved ones that 
couldnt be exchanged at that time.

I do agree that once the prussian gets active and the minors may be 
exchanged that this is an entire different scenario, which i dont really 
want to judge. I think that the share price should rise cause 
technically all shares are in play (even some as minors or privates) but 
i can see the merit in the statement below.
My intention with the option was to fix the first (flawed in my opinion) 
behaviour though.

Regards,
Martin
Am 17.08.15 um 16:44 schrieb com...@ip...:
> I've posed the question to a friend who has a copy of the game. My memory
> is that the rules aren't clear on the subject, but that our interpretation
> has always been that since the owners of the private companies that have
> not merged with the Prussian have had the chance to do so and not exercised
> that option, it is not considered to be fully subscribed. I will post his
> reply when I receive it.
>
> Mike
>
>> -- Original Message --
>> To: "Development list for Rails: an 18xx game"
>> 	<rai...@li...>
>> From: Stefan Frey <ste...@we...>
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:57:43 +0200
>> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] 1835 Shareprice of Pru at the End of an SR
>> Reply-To: "Development list for Rails: an 18xx game"
>> 	<rai...@li...>
>>
>>
>> Still open issue:
>>
>> What is the default setting for this game option?
>>
>> My current understanding from the rules set (2nd version DE and EN)
>> available to me is that the default is that Prussian stock price raises
>> even if there are un-exchanged (reserved) shares in the bank.
>>
>> However both (experienced) players John and Volker prefer the reverse as
>>
>> default. It could be that the 1st version of the rules were different?
>> However I cannot find those online. Maybe anyone of you can check those?
>>
>> Most likely I will forward the question to 18xx yahoo, if we cannot find
>>
>> a clear answer.
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>> On 07/31/2015 11:57 PM, John David Galt wrote:
>>> On 2015-07-30 10:30, Stefan Frey wrote:
>>>> Hi Volker,
>>>> thanks for your reply: Yes Rails previously did not increase the
>>>> Prussian share price, however in my view this is not the "standard",
> but
>>>> simply a bug. However I am interested to know, if you (or anyone else)
>>>> has a different opinion on that matter?
>>>>
>>>> At least for the two rules set I consulted.
>>>>
>>>> English (2nd):
>>>> "If at the end of a share dealing round, all purchasable shares in a
>>>> company are owned by players, i.e. all sold and none in the Bank Pool,
>>>> then the share price...".
>>>>
>>>> German (2nd):
>>>> "Befinden sich am Ende einer Aktienrunde keine Aktien einer in Betrieb
>>>> befindlichen AG im Bankpool bzw. auf einem der Stapel 'Nichtverkaufte
>>>> Aktien', so wird der Kursmarker ..."
>>>>
>>>> The main difference is merely that the German highlights that the
>>>> company has to be operating, thus Prussian requires an exchanged M2.
>>>>
>>>> I am a little reluctant to support too many (minor) Game Options for
> a
>>>> game with enough variants and ambiguous rules, but if there is good
>>>> support to convince me then I will be happy to add the option again.
>>>>
>>>> Stefan
>>> I guess I have the first edition, but I am used to the price NOT going
>>> up and prefer it that way.
>>>
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