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Re: [Rails-devel] SVG background maps (was: Release strategy - master vs. rails2develop)
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From: Chris S. <chr...@gm...> - 2014-12-08 17:36:38
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I want to know how he assing ids too. On Mon Dec 08 2014 at 9:09:26 AM Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> wrote: > Frederick: > thanks a lot. Your feedback is really helpful. > > And I appreciate your functional but good-looking design. > > I am currently looking into how interact with the svg maps from inside > the code. > > Maybe some questions up-front: > > * How did you (or Inkscape) assing ids to your elements? Is there any > system to it, that relates to the actual 18xx definitions? > > * Is it possible to force Inkscape to use pre-defined styles for > attributes (inline or external CSS) to reduce the replication inside the > svg? > > * Inkscape seems to change the syntax of tile definitions at the time > copying (e.g. uses relative coordinates instead of absolute coordinates > for the path definitions). > > * It seems that it is possible to save it as plain svg without quality > loss (however it prevents Inkscape to identify the layer information). > > * Do you have a good idea to avoid the duplication of drawing the hex > borders? I think it would be a good idea to separate drawing the hex > grid from the hex content to avoid that. > > I do not want to change the map code too much in 2.0, except for > replacing batik. However I want to improve that in the next upcoming > releases. So I am still very open for ideas. > > Stefan > > > On 12/05/2014 03:12 PM, Frederick Weld wrote: > > Stefan: > > The hexes have the same size as the tile svgs. This makes it possible to > > just copy required tiles (Altoona...) from the tile svg into the map. > > > > These tile svgs are the one very important element of reuse. > > > > I reuse further parts from my former maps - but this is rather pure > > design (shape/color patterns for rendering...). > > > > I do not use any specific coordinate system and, as a result, I have to > > calibrate the maps within the game to get the x/y/scale parameters. This > > is no drawback though, as I often want to be able to make the decision > > how much "padding" the grid needs within my map's layout... > > > > -- Frederick > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Stefan Frey <ste...@we... > > <mailto:ste...@we...>> wrote: > > > > Frederick: > > thanks for your feedback. > > I assumed this by the size of the files, however I had no time yet > > to look into details. > > > > One further question: What coordinates did you choose for your maps? > > Is it identical across your maps? What is the size of one hexagon in > > those coordinates. Have you already started to create single tiles > > for reuse? I am keen on replacing the existing tile creation process > > by a simpler one. > > > > Most likely you can guess where I am hinting at, but I will give > > more details on Sunday. > > > > Great work, > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > Frederick Weld <fre...@go... > > <mailto:fre...@go...>>schrieb: > > > > Stefan: > > I use Inkscape for creating/editing the vector maps. They are > > stored in svg format. I couldn't imagine any other combination > > which would fit our needs here in a better manner. > > > > SVG files are verbose but their size gets shrunk by compression > > to 10-15% of the original size. My maps are <100k when > > compressed. Hence, I do not think this is a real issue. > > > > However, the situation is different for converted maps (in > > rails, e.g, 18EU, 18AL). They include a lot of superfluous paths > > (including paths instead of text) and get bloated and slow to > > draw as a result. That (and copyright considerations) is why I > > always build my maps from the scratch. > > > > The svg lib could be exchanged, of course. But as a > > prerequisite, the new lib should be regression-free with respect > > to exiting background maps. > > > > -- Frederick > > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Stefan Frey<ste...@we... > > <mailto:ste...@we...>> wrote: > > > > Frederick: > > we could do that later on. Most people now know that > > rails_2_develop is > > the (default) branch for rails 2. > > > > My (future) release strategy is based on > > > > http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/ > > > > However I still consider moving the git repo (only the repo, > > not the > > other parts) to github, then this will happen with the > > official rails > > 2.0 release. > > > > I am looking forward to seeing more maps from you. > > > > One question: In which format and tools do you create your > > maps? > > > > Most likely you will know that I intend to replace the Batik > > lib soon. > > However which long-run strategy to choose how display > > maps/tiles for Rails. > > > > In the short-run I will simply replace Batik by a more > > light-weight SVG > > library, but I am open to recommendations. > > > > Stefan > > > > > > On 12/04/2014 10:16 AM, Frederick Weld wrote: > > > Stefan: > > > There is no standard 1830 map yet. I will probably do > > that after the > > > Coalfield map has been reviewed (bgg) and thoroughly > > play-tested. > > > > > > How about labeling rails_2_develop as master? Then the > > meaning would be > > > clear: Current state of validated development which is > > eligible for the > > > next release. > > > > > > -- Frederick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------ > > > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade > > BIRT Server > > > from Actuate! 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