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Re: [Rails-devel] Specification of implementation levels for different 18xx games in Rails (was: [Rails-users] Bug in 18GA private auction)
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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2013-11-14 12:53:30
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Adding 1880 to the GameSetupWindow is easy: It only requires editing the gameslist.xml ;-) Done! On 11/14/2013 01:47 PM, Dr....@t-... wrote: > 1880 comes to my mind :) > > *Von:* Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> > > *An:* Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > <rai...@li...> > > *Betreff:* Re: [Rails-devel] Specification of implementation levels for > different 18xx games in Rails (was: [Rails-users] Bug in 18GA private > auction) > > *Datum:* Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:21:44 +0100 > > That is a good idea. > > The missing bit I am currently working on, and that I have to finish to > > release an alpha version of Rails 2.0 is the GameSetupWindow, that was > > the reason to bring that up at the moment. > > So if there are others features people would love to see there, it is a > > good time to bring them to my attention now. > > However I will only add the easy ones immediately ;-) > > On 11/14/2013 12:27 PM, Phil Davies wrote: > > > I like these definitions, tidies things up a bit. > > > > > > Maybe an addition to the game setup screen that lists the definition > > > as you have stated it above? Most users aren't going to check the > > > wiki after downloading the software > > > > > > On 14 November 2013 10:11, Dr....@t-... > <javascript:void(0)> > > > <Dr....@t-... <javascript:void(0)>> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> Hi Stefan, > > >> > > >> sounds good and should find its way into the general announcement > page of > > >> Rails, the wiki and into the Readme imho. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> Martin > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Von: Stefan Frey <ste...@we... <javascript:void(0)>> > > >> > > >> An: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > > >> <rai...@li... <javascript:void(0)>> > > >> > > >> Betreff: [Rails-devel] Specification of implementation levels for > different > > >> 18xx games in Rails (was: [Rails-users] Bug in 18GA private auction) > > >> > > >> Datum: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:44:51 +0100 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Given that some games (1830 and all direct derivatives, 1856, 18EU) are > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> pretty mature and others (1835, 1880) are still in the bug fixing cycle, > > >> > > >> I suggest a new label for the stable games. Any thoughts about how to > > >> > > >> name it? "Mature", "Stable"? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> We have > > >> > > >> "Fully Playable" (see above) > > >> > > >> "Partial Playable" (none) > > >> > > >> "Not Yet Playable" (1870, 1825) > > >> > > >> "Prototype" (1826, 18Scan, 18VA) > > >> > > >> "In development" (1837). > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> However I do not know how the three latter categories really differ? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Maybe we should have something like: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> * Fully Playable with qualification: > > >> > > >> -Mature (Only very few minor bugs to be expected) > > >> > > >> -Stable (Only minor bugs to be expected, can be fixed easily) > > >> > > >> -Testing (Major bugs to be expected, can take some time to be resolved) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> * Partially Playable > > >> > > >> (All xml files ready, some rules coded, tests possible, but expect not > > >> > > >> to finish games) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> * In development > > >> > > >> (All xml files ready, started coding) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> * Prototype > > >> > > >> (Only xml definition files, no coding done so far) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Thoughts? > > >> > > >> Stefan > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -------- Original Message -------- > > >> > > >> Subject: Re: [Rails-users] Bug in 18GA private auction > > >> > > >> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:01:02 +0100 > > >> > > >> From: Stefan Frey <ste...@we... <javascript:void(0)>> > > >> > > >> To: rai...@li... <javascript:void(0)> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> In fact Rails allows both, exclude or include a player from further > > >> > > >> bidding after a pass: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> => It depends on the setting "Leave auction on pass" that is set to "No" > > >> > > >> as default for 18GA. This can be changed at game start. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> => If I remember correctly this is not defined in the AH version of the > > >> > > >> 1830 rules. So the option was created for 1830 (default there "No" too) > > >> > > >> and it exists for all 1830 "clones" or "close derivatives", even if > > >> > > >> there is a ruling in the derivative rule book. However the default > > >> > > >> should be set to the wording in that rule book. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Justin: nothing to be embarrassed about. Auction rules of 1830 have > > >> > > >> created various variants over time. The only good thing is that Rails > > >> > > >> for 1830 is so stable, that it is more likely that the bug is due to the > > >> > > >> users perception. Some time ago I proposed to introduce another level > > >> > > >> for those games instead of "fully playable", something like "mature" or > > >> > > >> "stable" to indicate that there are not many bugs to be expected, > > >> > > >> compared to what we have for example for 1835 and 1880 currently. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Stefan > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 11/13/2013 06:17 PM, Justin Rebelo wrote: > > >> > > >>> Wow. That's embarrassing. Sorry for the bogus report. The players > in the > > >> > > >>> game all agreed it was a bug and I just went straight to filing rather > > >> > > >>> than reporting. Won't do that again. ;) > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Jerry Anderson > <jer...@ya... <javascript:void(0)> > > >> > > >>> <jer...@ya... <javascript:void(0)>>> wrote: > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> Not a bug. From the rule book - page 7. > > >> > > >>> "A player who has passed may bid later, if he gets another turn > > >> > > >>> before the auction ends." > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> *From:* Justin Rebelo <jus...@gm... <javascript:void(0)> > > >> > > >>> <jus...@gm... <javascript:void(0)>>> > > >> > > >>> *To:* rai...@li... <javascript:void(0)> > > >> > > >>> <rai...@li... <javascript:void(0)>> > > >> > > >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 13, 2013 9:04 AM > > >> > > >>> *Subject:* [Rails-users] Bug in 18GA private auction > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> Forgive me if this is not the correct place for this. I am involved > > >> > > >>> in a game of 18GA (using Cotton Port variant map). We are four > > >> > > >>> players and during the initial private auction encountered a very > > >> > > >>> minor bug that is probably an easy fix for someone with intimate > > >> > > >>> knowledge of the code. > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> There were three pending bids on the OSO private company and after > > >> > > >>> the preceding company auction was concluded, the first player to > > >> > > >>> have a bid chose to pass. The next two players raised the bids and > > >> > > >>> then the first player (who had already passed) was prompted as the > > >> > > >>> next active player with the option to bid again or pass. The player > > >> > > >>> should not be able to re-enter the private auction in this case. > > >> > > >>> Easy to work around for now. > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> Thanks! > > >> > > >>> Justin > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> > > >>> DreamFactory - Open Source REST & JSON Services for HTML5 & Native Apps > > >> > > >>> OAuth, Users, Roles, SQL, NoSQL, BLOB Storage and External API Access > > >> > > >>> Free app hosting. 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