From: John D. G. <jd...@di...> - 2012-09-02 18:21:31
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On 2012-09-02 09:16, Mike Bourke wrote: > "(all transactions between players and companies are forbidden anyway)." > > Not so. Companies can buy private railways and other such from players and > are expected to do so, depending on which 18xx game you are playing. Without > this ability, there is no way for a company to be able to place a port > marker, for example (since by the time the bank seizes control of such > facilities, the port company is closed). I have only seen company credits in Tresham's own games: 1825, 1829, and 1853. And in those games, railroads do not buy in private companies. > Is not the paying of a dividend (half or full) a transaction between > shareholding players and the company in which the shares are owned? No. The bank pays either players, the railroad, or both. The railroad and players do not pay each other anything. > How about when a company doesn't have enough money for a train and the > President has to pay for it? That is indeed a payment from the president to his company -- but it, too, does not happen in the three Tresham games. Instead, companies with no train which can't arrange a purchase from another company simply fall in price until the owners sell all their shares to the bank (which is allowed). Then the company goes into receivership and is allowed to borrow a train from the bank until it can pay for one. > There are many actions that can be characterized as transactions between > players and companies that are not only not forbidden but are mandatory > elements of the game. And none of them exist in games with company credits. > As for using the total of company treasuries to determine whether or not the > bank is broken, doesn't that ignore the primary point where money is > supposed to accumulate within the game - in the player's hands? The point is that company credits, when they exist, are not supposed to count toward breaking the bank. Thus if you change a game that uses credits by giving the companies ordinary cash, then when determining whether the bank has broken you have to count as if all the cash in company treasuries were still in the bank. Actually I don't recommend combining the types of money this way because it creates another inaccuracy. The smallest company credit "bill" is £10, so all company treasuries are supposed to be constrained to multiples of 10. |