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Re: [Rails-devel] Fwd: 18xx Bug report
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From: Erik V. <eri...@xs...> - 2012-06-04 13:21:46
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Fixed and pushed to master. I presume it does not matter in a case like this, that the presidency cannot actually be dumped, because no one else owns 20%. The change effectively means, that a company president may now sell a just bought certificate, unless the number of held shares would become zero. All other limitations of course still apply. In the reported case, Fontana can now sell up to 30% instead of 20%. Erik. > -----Original Message----- > From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...] > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 9:33 AM > To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Fwd: 18xx Bug report > > Erik: > sounds reasonable, however I am not an 1856 expert. > The good thing is that it enlarges action space only, so the other > interpretation could be enforced by players. > > If you want to check for more (and more qualified) opinions, you should > forward the issue to the 18xx yahoo group. > > Stefan > > PS: Maybe we could collect resolved rules issues on the wiki and maybe even > state what rules and clarifications we use as the basis of our implementation > (I know we do not link to rules, but stating a bibliography and link to public > available rules clarification should be possible - Maybe someone of non- > developer contributors would like to volunteer... :-) ? > > On 06/03/2012 09:13 PM, Erik Vos wrote: > > How Rails does work is as follows: > > - if a share has been bought in the same turn, the maximum number of > > shares that can be sold is unconditionally reduced by one. > > > > How Rails should work is open for discussion here, but given Steve Thomas' > > clarification I think the above should be reformulated as follows: > > - if a share has been bought in the same turn, at least one share > > should remain after selling. So the number of sellable shares is only > > reduced by one if the number of remaining shares would otherwise > become zero. > > > > If we agree that this interpretation is correct, I'll change the code > > accordingly. > > > > Erik. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...] > >> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 5:47 PM > >> To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game; Ing. Antonio Baracca > >> Subject: [Rails-devel] Fwd: 18xx Bug report > >> > >> A bug reported on 1856: > >> Selling a 10% share which was immediately bought in that turn. > >> > >> However the player has the presidency, thus he should able to sell > >> off the partial 10% from the presidency instead (if I understand > >> Steve Thomas rule clarification correctly). > >> > >> If I remember we had this case previously discussed, however was not > >> able to find it quickly. > >> > >> Previous Off-list conversion see below. > >> > >> Most likely Erik knows best how the current implementation should work. > >> > >> Stefan > >> > >> > >> On 06/03/2012 05:28 PM, Ing. Antonio Baracca wrote: > >> > No, Rails doesn't handle it in the right way. > >> > Fontana had 4 GW > >> > He bought the fifth share > >> > And wish to sell 3 GW > >> > > >> > All these moves are correct but rails just let him sell 2 > >> shares, in my > >> > >> opinion it does confusion with the president share. > >> > Bye > >> > Antonio > >> > > >> > > >> > Il giorno 03/giu/2012, alle ore 16:50, Stefan Frey ha scritto: > >> > > >> >> Antonio: > >> >> just to be sure: > >> >> Do we agree that Rails handled that case correctly? > >> >> > >> >> In the example save file you have sent, Fontana just bought the > >> 3rd > >>> > >> share of GW, so he is not able to sell 3 shares immediately. > >> >> He has to wait for one turn and then he is able to do so (and > >> Rails > >>> > >> allows it then). > >> >> > >> >> Cheers, > >> >> Stefan > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On 06/03/2012 04:06 PM, Ing. Antonio Baracca wrote: > >> >>> Hello Stefan, thanks for your fast replay,>>> it's true that > >> in > > 1856 you > >> cannot sell a share you just bought, but if>>> you hold some shares > >> of a corporation and you buy another one, it's>>> allowed to sell > >> one or more shares of the ones you had before. > >> >>> > >> >>> For example: > >> >>> if you had 2 shares and you buy one more, in any case you can > >> sell > > only > >>>>> the two shares you owned in the same move, you can sell the third > >>>>> one when it's your turn again in the same stock round. > >> >>> Greetings > >> >>> Antonio > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Il giorno 03/giu/2012, alle ore 10:54, Stefan Frey ha scritto: > >> >>> > >> >>>> Hello Antonio, > >> >>>> I am not the 1856 expert, however on first glance it looks > >> like that > > the > >>>>>> rule that you cannot sell a share in the same StockRound turn > >>>>>> that > > you > >>>>>> just bought? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> But most likely I have overlooked something, because I only > >> played > >>>>>> 1856 only once. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Good to hear that the Italian community embraces Rails now as > >> well > >>>>>> Enjoy your PBEM competition! > >> >>>> Kind regards, > >> >>>> Stefan > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Ing. Antonio Baracca > >> >>>>> ant...@gm...<mailto:ant...@gm...> > >>>>> > >> <mailto:ant...@gm...> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> > >>> > >>>>> Ing. 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