Re: [Rails-devel] Bug in 1.7.3 1835, Token of a starting company

[Schnell, V. <vol...@ar...>]

Hi John,
in 1835 the base token is placed, as soon the company "operates" i.e. it 
is layed in the SDR.
Volker

Am 06.05.2012 20:41, schrieb John David Galt:
>> Volker Schnell wrote:
>>> from the Rules (first german, then english)
>>> 2.7.1 Sind von einer Gesellschaft mindestens 50% erstmalig verkauft worden, ist>>  die Gesellschaft "in Betrieb".
>>> 2.7.2 In dem Moment, in dem die Gesellschaft in Betrieb geht, erhält der
>>> Direktor den entsprechenden Besitzbogen und alle Marker der Gesellschaft.
>>> 2.7.3 Einer der Marker wird auf das gekennzeichnete Startposition der AG auf
>>> der Aktienkurstafel gelegt. Ist das Feld schon von anderen Markern belegt, wird
>>> er unter diese geschoben.
>>>
>>> english. [fixed spelling - JDG]
>>> 2.7.1. If 50% Shares of a company are sold for the first time, the company
>>> "operates"
>>> 2.7.2. At the time the company operates, the director receives the company
>>> sheet and all company-tokens.
>>> 2.7.3. One marker is laid at the marked Position of the company on the stock-
>>> table.  If the field is already occupied by other tokens, then the token is
>>> placed under the other tokens.
> Placing a company's stock market token only when it operates seems wrong,
> because normally the positions of the stock market tokens determine the order
> in which all the major companies will operate.
>
> Am I right in thinking this means that a company's home station also is laid
> when it first operates, and not when it floats?  This would be exactly opposite
> to both English versions of the rules (especially the first edition).  In those,
> a company's home station is placed on the map during the stock round as soon as
> 50% is purchased.  (The second edition made BA an exception.)  This will make a
> big difference in play -- especially in the case of HE, which often blocks other
> companies as soon as it is placed.
>
> I suggest that this behavior be made a setup option, because nobody I know is
> going to want to change to your version.
>
> Stefan Frey wrote:
>> And another PS: Does anybody now when in general is the stock market
>> token placed for other 18xx with par prices? I do not have time to
>> check that now, but I had guessed that it usually happens at the same
>> time that the par price is set (so after the president shares is bought).
> That's correct for 1830 and most games with a similar market, because you can
> sell shares to the bank pool right away, even if the company hasn't floated
> yet.
>
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