Re: [Rails-devel] Bug in 1.7.3 1835, Token of a starting company

[John D. G. <jd...@di...>]

> Volker Schnell wrote:
>> from the Rules (first german, then english)
>> 2.7.1 Sind von einer Gesellschaft mindestens 50% erstmalig verkauft worden, ist >> die Gesellschaft "in Betrieb".
>> 2.7.2 In dem Moment, in dem die Gesellschaft in Betrieb geht, erhält der
>> Direktor den entsprechenden Besitzbogen und alle Marker der Gesellschaft.
>> 2.7.3 Einer der Marker wird auf das gekennzeichnete Startposition der AG auf
>> der Aktienkurstafel gelegt. Ist das Feld schon von anderen Markern belegt, wird
>> er unter diese geschoben.
>>
>> english. [fixed spelling - JDG]
>> 2.7.1. If 50% Shares of a company are sold for the first time, the company
>> "operates"
>> 2.7.2. At the time the company operates, the director receives the company
>> sheet and all company-tokens.
>> 2.7.3. One marker is laid at the marked Position of the company on the stock-
>> table.  If the field is already occupied by other tokens, then the token is
>> placed under the other tokens.

Placing a company's stock market token only when it operates seems wrong,
because normally the positions of the stock market tokens determine the order
in which all the major companies will operate.

Am I right in thinking this means that a company's home station also is laid
when it first operates, and not when it floats?  This would be exactly opposite
to both English versions of the rules (especially the first edition).  In those,
a company's home station is placed on the map during the stock round as soon as
50% is purchased.  (The second edition made BA an exception.)  This will make a
big difference in play -- especially in the case of HE, which often blocks other
companies as soon as it is placed.

I suggest that this behavior be made a setup option, because nobody I know is
going to want to change to your version.

Stefan Frey wrote:
> And another PS: Does anybody now when in general is the stock market 
> token placed for other 18xx with par prices? I do not have time to
> check that now, but I had guessed that it usually happens at the same 
> time that the par price is set (so after the president shares is bought).

That's correct for 1830 and most games with a similar market, because you can
sell shares to the bank pool right away, even if the company hasn't floated
yet.