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Re: [Rails-devel] Roadmap for improving User Experience
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From: Mark S. <mar...@gm...> - 2011-12-18 00:28:01
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OK, just to add more... in 1856 and 1870, you have the Home Base, you have the Destinations, as well as placed tokens. There should be ways to distinguish each from each other. Grey Shading doesn't seem like the right answer. If you do something "fancy" with the font, say Outline Text for Home, and Italics for a Destination, and Solid Font for Placed... it may work. Can anyone think of other ways a Company is represented on a map? Mark On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...>wrote: > Grey shading? > > -- > Chris > > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > > > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Mark Smith <mar...@gm...> > wrote: > > Thought on just black and white -- how to distinguish placed tokens and > home bases? > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Dec 17, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> > wrote: > > > >> This, by the way, is what I meant by simple black & white text > >> abbreviations. It's from a ps18xx map. > >> > >> > http://www.mikkosgameblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/1860-mikko-ed.jpg > >> > >> -- > >> Chris > >> > >> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> > wrote: > >>> There are ways to support the color blind, and those of us with less > >>> than perfect vision: > >>> > >>> 1. Global option to replace all SVG token graphics with simple black & > >>> white text abbreviations. > >>> 2. Pop up text when mousing over a token. > >>> 3. Pop up larger image when mousing over a token. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Chris > >>> > >>> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 2:48 AM, Erik Vos <eri...@xs...> wrote: > >>>> Currently, all tokens have the company abbreviation and colours, so > there is a good match. > >>>> However, the abbreviations are drawn on the token circles with start > positions and font sizes that are derived from the number of characters in > a very simple way, and the result is not very satisfactory. > >>>> So I am all for better ways to draw tokens. And I would be happy to > optimize colours so that the colour-blind can better distinguish these - > but I am not, so I would be dependent on advice from such players. > >>>> > >>>> Apart from the colours, I see two ways to improve token visibility by > using SVG: > >>>> > >>>> 1. Design simple SVG tokens that are similar to the existing ones, > having just the company colours and abbreviations, but better designed so > that the abbreviations are well-centered and have the best font and size > for readability. > >>>> > >>>> 2. Design SVG tokens that resemble the real logos in terms of colours > and shape. I believe that this way the name will not be readable in most > cases, so (for the colour-blind) shape becomes the only distinguishing > factor. In this case I would try to include such tokens into the grid > windows as well, at least at the left-hand side. But the abbreviation has > to stay there. > >>>> > >>>> Like Brett, I think that just the name abbreviation is best (option > 1). > >>>> > >>>> Erik. > >>>> > >>>>> From: brett lentz [mailto:bre...@gm...] > >>>>> I'll complicate this a bit further: Color blindness. > >>>>> > >>>>> Red-Green color blindness is relatively common in men. Other forms > of color > >>>>> blindness also exist, and make these sorts of decisions sort of > dicey. > >>>>> > >>>>> There are a few people in my old gaming group that were color blind > and > >>>>> some games were more difficult for them to play because of this. > >>>>> > >>>>> I think all markers should have the initials of the company along > with an > >>>>> associated color. If we can also make each token it's own shape or > use > >>>>> distinct combinations of foreground and background colors, so much > the > >>>>> better. However, 18xx games have a *ton* of information > >>>>> (comparatively) and so there's a balance to be struck lest we > needlessly > >>>>> complicate things. > >>>>> > >>>>> At a minimum, players should be able to match up the B&O token on the > >>>>> stock market with the B&O tokens on the map and the B&O entry in the > >>>>> game status window... very much like in a physical game. The easiest > way to > >>>>> do this is just to have the characters "B&O" everywhere the company > is > >>>>> referenced. If there's space in the UI to include the full name > *and* the > >>>>> abbreviation in some places, that's great. But, at a minimum, we > should > >>>>> maintain some amount of consistency by always displaying the > abbreviation > >>>>> and not rely on just coloring to convey this information. > >>>>> > >>>>> ---Brett. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> Learn Windows Azure Live! Tuesday, Dec 13, 2011 > >>>> Microsoft is holding a special Learn Windows Azure training event for > >>>> developers. It will provide a great way to learn Windows Azure and > what it > >>>> provides. 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