From: Erik V. <eri...@xs...> - 2011-12-17 10:48:21
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Currently, all tokens have the company abbreviation and colours, so there is a good match. However, the abbreviations are drawn on the token circles with start positions and font sizes that are derived from the number of characters in a very simple way, and the result is not very satisfactory. So I am all for better ways to draw tokens. And I would be happy to optimize colours so that the colour-blind can better distinguish these - but I am not, so I would be dependent on advice from such players. Apart from the colours, I see two ways to improve token visibility by using SVG: 1. Design simple SVG tokens that are similar to the existing ones, having just the company colours and abbreviations, but better designed so that the abbreviations are well-centered and have the best font and size for readability. 2. Design SVG tokens that resemble the real logos in terms of colours and shape. I believe that this way the name will not be readable in most cases, so (for the colour-blind) shape becomes the only distinguishing factor. In this case I would try to include such tokens into the grid windows as well, at least at the left-hand side. But the abbreviation has to stay there. Like Brett, I think that just the name abbreviation is best (option 1). Erik. > From: brett lentz [mailto:bre...@gm...] > I'll complicate this a bit further: Color blindness. > > Red-Green color blindness is relatively common in men. Other forms of color > blindness also exist, and make these sorts of decisions sort of dicey. > > There are a few people in my old gaming group that were color blind and > some games were more difficult for them to play because of this. > > I think all markers should have the initials of the company along with an > associated color. If we can also make each token it's own shape or use > distinct combinations of foreground and background colors, so much the > better. However, 18xx games have a *ton* of information > (comparatively) and so there's a balance to be struck lest we needlessly > complicate things. > > At a minimum, players should be able to match up the B&O token on the > stock market with the B&O tokens on the map and the B&O entry in the > game status window... very much like in a physical game. The easiest way to > do this is just to have the characters "B&O" everywhere the company is > referenced. If there's space in the UI to include the full name *and* the > abbreviation in some places, that's great. But, at a minimum, we should > maintain some amount of consistency by always displaying the abbreviation > and not rely on just coloring to convey this information. > > ---Brett. |