Re: [Rails-devel] Rails 1.x

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

Stefan,

I clearly have expressed myself a bit too strongly.  Surely I will stop
maintaining Rails 1.x when it's clear that it would no longer serve any
purpose (although keeping myself busy is a potential purpose).

I just can't tell now to what extent I expect to be able to work with Rails
2.0 in the future.  Possible inhibitors include:
- old age (I'm 65 now),
- inability to grasp Rails 2.0 (unlikely at this time),
- don't like Rails 2.0 (unlikely but not unthinkable),
- my other hobbies and/or my grandchildren manage to move Rails to the
bottom of my priority list (no clue on this one).

Because of family matters, I currently don't have the time to do much else
on Rails than bug fixing and minor improvements.  I'm not following your
work (yet). 
I hope that all will change sometime in 2012.

Erik.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...]
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 10:09 AM
> To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Rails 1.x
> 
> On Saturday, November 19, 2011 09:09:42 am Erik Vos wrote:
> > It's my intention to keep maintaining and possibly even extending
> > Rails 1.x, until it has become absolutely clear to everyone that Rails
> > 2.0 is a worthy successor and Rails 1.x has become a dead end.  I'm
> > undecided about what I'm going to do after that point.
> 
> Erik,
> My fear is that by binding yourself to the definition "absolutely clear to
> everyone" you will never be able to stop maintaining Rails 1.x.
> You are handing out veto rights freely...  ;-) Maybe should stop
maintaining if
> you are yourself convinced of your condition, which will still very
difficult to
> achieve.
> I have and had no intention to maneuver you into a dead-end and it would
> be a pity is this happens. So if there is anything i can do (better) to
avoid that,
> please let me know.
> Stefan
> 
> >
> > Erik.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...]
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:02 AM
> > > To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
> > > Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Shares and certificates (was: Further
> > > 1835
> >
> > testing)
> >
> > > Erik:
> > > A general remark first regarding the Rails 2.0 development:
> > >
> > > It is already quite often not possible to automatic (=merge without
> > > manual intervention) rebase the 2.0 branch onto the Rails 1.x master
> > > as the
> >
> > changes
> >
> > > to the base elements (states, moves, portfolios) are too
> > > substantial. So I
> >
> > can
> >
> > > only merge commits one-by-one, which takes some effort.
> > >
> > > Most likely I will not be able (auto-)merge any of your changes
> > > regarding shares into the 2.0 branch. And due to the nature of
> > > changes it will be
> >
> > easier
> >
> > > to implement the changes directly instead of the trying to merge the
> > > 1.x commits.
> > >
> > > So from my point of view I recommend to keep your changes minimal in
> > > able to fix 1835. However your decision will mainly depend on how
> > > long you expect to keep developing in Rails 1.x.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately I am currently not able to give a clear commitment
> > > when
> >
> > Rails
> >
> > > 2.0 will run without errors.
> > > Of the design/refactoring changes for the initial 2.0 I think 90%
> > > are in
> >
> > place,
> >
> > > however from the testing/bug-hunting I guess only 10% are done, but
> > > the latter figure is difficult to predict.
> > >
> > > I will provide more feedback on your proposal later this weekend.
> > >
> > > Stefan
> >
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