Re: [Rails-devel] Java webstart (was: Rails 1.5.1 available)

[brett l. <bre...@gm...>]

Okay. Sounds like a fair bit of work to do, but very worthwhile. :-)

---Brett.



On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> wrote:
> Brett:
> I had a first look into adding Java Webstart support for Rails and as
> suspected there is an issue with the Classloader. Even if we provide a user
> defined classloader it is not used in those cases where Rails uses the
> Class.forName method to create new (18xx-game specific classes). This has to
> replaced.
>
> Reference:
> http://download.oracle.com/javase/1,5.0/docs/guide/javaws/developersguide/faq.html#211
>
> In addition we have to make sure that all other resource files also get loaded
> by the classloader from the jar.
>
> Except from that it is mainly an issue to write the ant-tasks for packaging a
> jar for Rails only and then upload this and the library jars (after signing
> them) to sourceforge. This can heavily automated by creating an ant task.
>
> As it still requires some code/build modifications I prefer to add that to the
> to-do list for Rails 2.0 and have no intention to backport this to Rails 1.x.
>
> Stefan
>
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2011 09:02:04 pm brett lentz wrote:
>> I suspect it was my own lack of knowledge on the whole process.
>>
>> Our classloader (and hex drawing code) comes from the Colossus project
>> ( http://colossus.sourceforge.net/ ), and they provide a JNLP.  So, I
>> doubt there's any technical blockers to providing one.
>>
>> ---Brett.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> wrote:
>> > Do you remember what the main obstacle was? I suspect the
>> > custom made classloader?
>> >
>> > On Monday, October 10, 2011 08:05:20 pm brett lentz wrote:
>> >> I looked at creating a JNLP several years ago, but couldn't really
>> >> make heads or tails of the process.
>> >>
>> >> If you can make it happen, that'd be awesome. I'd love to have a link
>> >> on the website that people can click on to launch the latest version
>> >> of Rails.
>> >>
>> >> ---Brett.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> wrote:
>> >> > Erik:
>> >> > you are right 1.5.1+ is correct, my train of thought got sidetracked.
>> >> >
>> >> > I was thinking about that too, as changing the version number is the
>> >> > only remaining manual task to publish a new release.
>> >> >
>> >> > However there will always the need to update the wiki and html pages,
>> >> > so it still requires manually intervention.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am considering adding webstart support (in addition to the file
>> >> > releases - not as an replacement), but I want like to know the
>> >> > opinions of the others about that?
>> >> >
>> >> > Stefan
>> >> >
>> >> >> I have no opinion on whether or not to put branches in the repo, as I
>> >> >> ignore them all (so far). However, I would like to see a correct (if
>> >> >> temporary) version number in the master Game.xml, so that the
>> >> >> approximate version of saved files can be identified. In my opinion
>> >> >> that should be 1.5.1+, literally: 1.5.1 and more.
>> >> >> (A build number would be even better, once we have managed nightly or
>> >> >> weekly builds. Would it be possible to have the code retrieve the
>> >> >> latest commit hash?)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Erik.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>