Re: [Rails-devel] Git troubleshooting [was: Git repository isnowavailable.]

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

Brett raised the issue of different problems depending on platform/eclipse 
version and he started reporting the platform he uses.

I run Eclipse Helios (Build id: 20100617-1415) 
on an OpenSuse 11.3 Linux distribution.

Egit is from the Helios update link.
Stefan


On Thursday, July 21, 2011 06:25:40 pm brett lentz wrote:
> I also noticed that there's a new version of Eclipse out. This version
> is named "Indigo". I wonder if there are differences that Egit isn't
> handling very well.
> 
> ---Brett.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Dr....@t-...
> 
> <Dr....@t-...> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I also installed the jgit and egit modules and repeatedly ran into
> > problems trying to fetch/get the commits and have them displayed
> > properly in the eclipse history. Even though the fetch or pull finished
> > and stated there was no new ref on the remote origin the history showed
> > that one or more commits didnt reach my working copy. I.e the history
> > was showng a different hash asa the actual git repository on
> > rails.sf.net.
> > 
> > i currently (state of yesterday) rebuild the local repository with a new
> > clone and was able to see the latest changes. I suspect that either
> > something is still buggy inside the eclipse modules or sourceforges git
> > implementation is not what it should be.
> > 
> > Or that the setup itself is needing some more foolproofing :)
> > 
> > Regards Martin
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original-Nachricht-----
> > 
> >> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Git troubleshooting [was: Git repository
> >> is    now     available.]
> >> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:46:42 +0200
> >> From: "Erik Vos" <eri...@xs...>
> >> To: "'Development list for Rails: an 18xx game'"
> >> <rai...@li...>
> >> 
> >> OK, I have installed Git for Windows and am running Git Bash.
> >> 
> >> 'git status' says:
> >> 
> >> ----------------------------------------
> >> # On branch master
> >> # Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged,
> >> # and have 1 and 3 different commit(s) each, respectively.
> >> #
> >> # Changes not staged for commit:
> >> #   (use "git add <file>..." to update what will be committed)
> >> #   (use "git checkout -- <file>..." to discard changes in working
> >> directory)
> >> #
> >> #     modified:   data/1826/Game.xml
> >> #     modified:   data/1870/Game.xml
> >> #     modified:   rails/algorithms/NetworkTrain.java
> >> #     modified:   rails/algorithms/RevenueAdapter.java
> >> #     modified:   rails/algorithms/RevenueCalculator.java
> >> #     modified:   rails/algorithms/RevenueCalculatorMulti.java
> >> #     modified:   rails/algorithms/RevenueCalculatorSimple.java
> >> #     modified:   rails/game/Train.java
> >> #     modified:   rails/game/TrainI.java
> >> #
> >> # Untracked files:
> >> #   (use "git add <file>..." to include in what will be committed) #
> >> #     rails/algorithms/RevenueCalculatorMultiHex.java
> >> no changes added to commit (use "git add" and/or "git commit -a")
> >> -------------------------------------------------
> >> 
> >> 1. The "modified" files are Stefan's updates.  Why are these marked as
> >> "Changes not staged for commit"?  Because these are in a branch? What
> >> am I supposed to do?
> >> 
> >> 2. What is the real status of the "Untracked" file
> >> RevenueCalculatorMultiHex.java?  This is the file for which Egit
> >> showed a merge conflict.
> >> Indeed the file icon is marked "?" so it's currently untracked. What
> >> should I do?
> >> 
> >> 'git push' says:
> >> 
> >> -----------------------------------------------
> >> ! [rejected]        master -> master (non-fast-forward)
> >> error: failed to push some refs to
> >> 'ssh://evos:<password>@rails.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/rails/rails'
> >> To prevent you from losing history, non-fast-forward updates were
> >> rejected Merge the remote changes (e.g. 'git pull') before pushing
> >> again.  See the 'Note about fast-forwards' section of 'git push
> >> --help' for details.
> >> Aborting
> >> ----------------------------------------------
> >> 
> >> So I tried 'git pull', which says:
> >> 
> >> -----------------------------------------------
> >> error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten
> >> by merge:
> >> data/1826/Game.xml
> >> data/1870/Game.xml
> >> rails/algorithms/NetworkTrain.java
> >> rails/algorithms/RevenueAdapter.java
> >> rails/algorithms/RevenueCalculator.java
> >> rails/algorithms/RevenueCalculatorMulti.java
> >> rails/algorithms/RevenueCalculatorSimple.java
> >> rails/game/Train.java
> >> rails/game/TrainI.java
> >> Please, commit your changes or stash them before you can merge.
> >> error: The following untracked working tree files would be overwritten
> >> by merge:
> >> rails/algorithms/RevenueCalculatorMultiHex.java
> >> Please move or remove them before you can merge.
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> 
> >> So it seems that Stefan's changes are already in my repository, but
> >> are nevertheless in the way of pulling the very same changes into my
> >> repository (again??).
> >> 
> >> Before I start trying lots of other things: is there an easier way out
> >> than to do it all over again, as Brett suggested?
> >> 
> >> Erik.
> >> 
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Erik Vos [mailto:eri...@xs...]
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:47 PM
> >> > To: 'Development list for Rails: an 18xx game'
> >> > Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Git troubleshooting [was: Git repository
> >> > is now available.]
> >> > 
> >> > My HEAD is at dab610 (parent fd4a38) and includes my commit, but not
> >> > Stefan's.
> >> > I'll try again tomorrow.
> >> > 
> >> > Erik.
> >> > 
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: brett lentz [mailto:bre...@gm...]
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:30 PM
> >> > > To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Git troubleshooting [was: Git
> >> > > repository is now available.]
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > One thing you can try is clone a new repository. Then, export your
> >> > > commits as a diff that can be applied to the newly cloned tree.
> >> > > Once done, you can try pushing from a fresh tree.
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > While Git tries to allow your to be ambigious and tries to do the
> >> > > right thing, you can also be explicit with your pushes:
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > $ git push origin master:refs/heads/master
> >> > > 
> >> > > This says "Push local master branch to refs/heads/master on
> >> > > origin."
> >> > > 
> >> > > According to the GitWeb, HEAD in the repo should be at
> >> > > d123b894c.
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > ---Brett.
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Erik Vos <eri...@xs...>
> >> > > 
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > Something has worked: Team|Merge on FETCH_HEAD has updated my
> >> > > 
> >> > > working
> >> > > 
> >> > > > copies with Stefan's changes.
> >> > > > All these changes have disappeared from the Synchronize view,
> >> > > > except RevenueCalculatorMultiHex.java, which now shows a merge
> >> > > > conflict, even though the local and remote sources are
> >> > > > identical.  "Mark as
> >> > 
> >> > merged"
> >> > 
> >> > > > does nothing.
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > And I still can't push, with the same error message.
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > Erik.
> >> > > > 
> >> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> From: Erik Vos [mailto:eri...@xs...]
> >> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:11 PM
> >> > > >> To: 'Development list for Rails: an 18xx game'
> >> > > >> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Git troubleshooting [was: Git
> >> > > 
> >> > > repository >> is now available.]
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> Hmm, now *I* seem to be royally stuck.
> >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> I have prepared and committed some changes (in master) and
> >> > > 
> >> > > tried to >> push this commit, but it keeps being rejected with a
> >> > > message >> "non-fast
> >> > > 
> >> > > > forward".
> >> > > > 
> >> > > >> Google tells me that this means that there is stuff waiting to
> >> > > 
> >> > > be >> pulled
> >> > > 
> >> > > > first,
> >> > > > 
> >> > > >> so I tried that (not sure if I started with fetch or with pull,
> >> > > >> tried
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > both), but I
> >> > > > 
> >> > > >> keep getting "No ref to fetch from origin - everything up to
> >> > > 
> >> > > date".
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> Merge attempts fail as well.  My working copy of 1826/Game.xml
> >> > > >> (just one file changed by Stefan) is not updated.
> >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> I suppose that Stefan's branching is somehow related to this
> >> > > 
> >> > > problem.
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> Why has this H_train branch been pushed at all?  For now I'm
> >> > > 
> >> > > only >> interested
> >> > > 
> >> > > > in
> >> > > > 
> >> > > >> what's in the master branch.
> >> > > >> I would think we can better refrain from branching until the
> >> > > 
> >> > > normal
> >> > > 
> >> > > > (master)
> >> > > > 
> >> > > >> pushes and pulls have proved to work at all sides.
> >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> I'll keep trying, and perhaps I'll have to try to use git on
> >> > > 
> >> > > the >> command
> >> > > 
> >> > > > line to
> >> > > > 
> >> > > >> get this fixed.
> >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> Anyhow, it's clear that Git is boggling my mind...  Perhaps a
> >> > > 
> >> > > fresh >> look tomorrow will help.  But PLEASE - keep it simple
> >> > > initially! >>
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> Erik.
> >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> > From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...]
> >> > > >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:03 PM
> >> > > >> > To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
> >> > > >> > Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Git troubleshooting [was: Git >> >
> >> > > 
> >> > > repository is now available.]
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > Brett:
> >> > > >> > sorry I was using the wrong wording below (still kept somehow
> >> > > 
> >> > > in >> > my subversion-world, where a branch is a copy of the
> >> > > trunk).
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > I did not clone the local repo, instead I created a branch
> >> > > 
> >> > > inside >> > the same repo. So my actual workflow was the one you
> >> > > suggested below.
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > So I have two branches shown in the git explorer of egit:
> >> > > master >> > and
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> h_train.
> >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > Anyhow I tested things again in the last half hour and it did
> >> > > 
> >> > > not >> > work
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> first, but
> >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > now it worked out of the blue.
> >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > Have you changed anything on the settings or did I torture
> >> > > 
> >> > > egit >> > for so
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> long,
> >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > that it had pity with me.
> >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > Stefan
> >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > On Wednesday, July 20, 2011 04:45:02 pm brett lentz wrote: >>
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > Comments inline...
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:39 AM, Stefan Frey
> >> > > >> > > <ste...@we...>
> >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > Actually I had to use the push uri:
> >> > > ssh://{username}@rails.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/rails/rail >> >
> >> > > 
> >> > > > > s
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > Using the git protocol was not possible, as egit
> >> > > 
> >> > > complained >> > > > that it does not support a username.
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > Correct. To be able to push changes, your remote uri needs
> >> > > 
> >> > > to >> > > be the ssh uri.
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > You can modify this setting on the fly, and don't need to
> >> > > >> > > re-clone the repository. The "git config" CLI commands can
> >> > > >> > > update any repository setting.
> >> > > >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > > I prefer not to use the synchronize perspective with git,
> >> > > 
> >> > > as >> > > > I wonder what it actually shows, as there are now two
> >> > > states >> > > > of changes (changes not committed, changes
> >> > > committed but not >> > > > pushed
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > yet).
> >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > > I'm not yet familiar with EGit, so most of the following >>
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > information will be based on my knowledge of the CLI tools.
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > So my intended workflow to implement a new feature was:
> >> > > >> > > > A) Create a branch for that feature locally by cloning my
> >> > > >> > > > local master which is itself a clone of the remote
> >> > > 
> >> > > master.
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > > B) Commit the changes in the local branch.
> >> > > >> > > > C) Push/merge those changes into my local master.
> >> > > >> > > > D) Push the changes from the local master into the remote
> >> 
> >> master.
> >> 
> >> > > >> > > Creating two local repositories is unnecessary and might be
> >> > > >> > > adding extra complications to your workflow.
> >> > > >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > Let's see if we can get the simple use case working, then
> >> > > 
> >> > > you >> > > can decide if you need more.
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > Try doing this:
> >> > > >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > 1. Create a topic branch.
> >> > > >> > > 2. Work as needed in the topic branch, making local commits
> >> > > >> > > when it makes sense. 3. When you've got an amount of work
> >> > > >> > > that's ready to push, update your local master and then
> >> > > 
> >> > > merge >> > > your topic branch to your
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > local master.
> >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > > 4. Push your changes to the remote repository.
> >> > > >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > Let's even save rebasing for later.
> >> > > >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > > Unfortunately I was not able to push the changes to the
> >> > > >> > > > master branch, I got a rejected error message for this
> >> > > 
> >> > > (both >> > > > on dry run and real). But my local master is
> >> > > up-to-date with >> > > > the repo
> >> > > master.
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > If you post the error message, it would help.
> >> > > >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > The most common reasons for a failed push are:
> >> > > >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > 1. Authentication and permissions problems (including using
> >> > > 
> >> > > the >> > > wrong remote.origin.url.
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > 2. Local branch being out of sync with remote branch. (try
> >> > > 
> >> > > a >> > > git pull, then retry your push.)
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > Unline SVN, Git won't let you push changes if your local
> >> > > 
> >> > > tree >> > > is out of sync with the remote tree. You need to pull
> >> > > any >> > > remote changes into your local tree, resolve any merge
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > conflicts (if
> >> > > >> > > any) locally, then push your changes.
> >> > > >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > > However I was able to push my branch H_train into the
> >> > > 
> >> > > repo >> > > > and was able to push my committed changes there.
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > > My ref spec for the push to the master is:
> >> > > >> > > > refs/heads/master:refs/heads/master
> >> > > >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > This looks correct.
> >> > > >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > It would be more useful to diagnose the issue to do this:
> >> > > >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > $ git fetch
> >> > > >> > > $ git status
> >> > > >> > > $ git branch -vv
> >> > > >> > > $ git diff origin/master master --stat
> >> > > >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > The fetch will update your remote refs without changing
> >> > > 
> >> > > your >> > > working copy. Git pull simply is a shortcut to running
> >> > > fetch >> > > then either merge or rebase (depending on chosen
> >> > > options).
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > The output of the status, branch, and diff commands will
> >> > > 
> >> > > tell >> > > you how out of sync you are with the remote side,
> >> > > often telling >> > > you how many commits ahead or behind you are.
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > > What have I done wrong?
> >> > > >> > > > Maybe it is better to wait for Brett to help here, I do
> >> > > 
> >> > > not >> > > > want to break anything and he has daily working
> >> > > knowledge with
> >> > 
> >> > git.
> >> > 
> >> > > >> > > > Stefan
> >> > > >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > ---Brett.
> >> > > >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > > On Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:12:44 am Erik Vos wrote:
> >> > > >> > > >> See below for my findings
> >> > > >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> > > >> > From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...]
> >> > > >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > > >> > Brett or Erik:
> >> > > >> > > >> > I believe I am doing something wrong or something is
> >> > > 
> >> > > not >> > > >> > setup correctly,
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > >> but
> >> > > >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > > >> > I do not get the push working after the commit.
> >> > > >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > > >> > I did setup a complete new workspace for git, cloned
> >> > > >> > > >> > remote, changed , committed, then pushed to remote.
> >> > > >> > > >> > All steps worked, except the final push.
> >> > > >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > > >> I did the same thing, and it all appears to have worked.
> >> > > >> > > >> I'm not happy with the way Egit reports a successful
> >> > > 
> >> > > push: >> > > >> the synchronization view is not updated (unlike
> >> > > Subversive, >> > > >> which cleaned up that view after a commit).
> >> > > Basically I have >> > > >> to conclude success from the absence of
> >> > > error messages; I >> > > >> would have preferred
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > some positive message.
> >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > > >> > The error message I get is that the push is not
> >> > > 
> >> > > permitted.
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > >> > My thoughts are:
> >> > > >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > > >> > I have not setup a specific push-URI, only used the >>
> >> > > > > >> > 
> >> > > > > >> > sourceforge link
> >> > > > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > > >> > git://rails.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/rails/rails >>
> >> > > >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > > >> Same as I did, except that I had inserted my username,
> >> > > 
> >> > > as >> > > >> per the Egit help info
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> (git://ev...@ra.../gitroot/rails/rails).
> >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > > >>  I wonder: could and should I also insert my password?
> >> > > 
> >> > > Now >> > > >> I'm asked to type my Sourceforge password *every*
> >> > > time I >> > > >> access remote (Subversive only required it once
> >> > > per Eclipse
> >> > 
> >> > session).
> >> > 
> >> > > >> > > >> I could not find a place to configure that either.
> >> > > >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > > >> > During the clone the fields for authentication were
> >> > > 
> >> > > grayed
> >> 
> >> out.
> >> 
> >> > > >> > > >> Can't remember.
> >> > > >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > > >> > During the push I never got asked for my user-account
> >> > > 
> >> > > or >> > > >> > password on sourceforge.
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > >> I think I was asked for my password only, as I had
> >> > > 
> >> > > included >> > > >> mu username in the URL.
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > >> > I was not able to locate anywhere in all those Eclipse
> >> > > >> > > >> > dialogs where I
> >> > > >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > > >> might be
> >> > > >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > > >> > able to setup my account.
> >> > > >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > > >> The only place I found was in the Push Wizard
> >> > > >> > > >> (Team|Remote|Push), but I haven't used the Custom part
> >> > > 
> >> > > of >> > > >> that
> >> > > either.
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > >> > Could you please provide help?
> >> > > >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > > >> Unfortunately I can't speak the final word on this
> >> > > 
> >> > > matter.
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > >> Let's together try to find what works best.
> >> > > >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > > >> Erik.
> >> > > 
> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------ >> >
> >> > > 
> >> > > > >> --
> >> > > > >> 
> >> > > >> > > >> ---
> >> > > >> > > >> --
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> >> > > > >> 
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> >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________
> >> > > >> > > >> Rails-devel mailing list
> >> > > >> > > >> Rai...@li...
> >> > > >> > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel
> >> > > 
> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >
> >> > > 
> >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > ---
> >> > > >> > > > --
> >> > > >> > > > -----
> >> > > >> > > > ----- 10 Tips for Better Web Security Learn 10 ways to
> >> > > 
> >> > > better >> > > > secure your business today. Topics covered
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > > include: Web security, SSL, hacker attacks & Denial of >>
> >> > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > Service (DoS), private keys, security Microsoft Exchange, >>
> >> > > > > > secure Instant Messaging, and much more.
> >> > > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51426210/
> >> > > >> > > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > >> > > > Rails-devel mailing list
> >> > > >> > > > Rai...@li...
> >> > > >> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel
> >> > > 
> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------- >>
> >> > > 
> >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > ---
> >> > > >> > > --
> >> > > >> > > -----
> >> > > >> > > --- 10 Tips for Better Web Security Learn 10 ways to better
> >> > > >> > > secure your business today. Topics covered
> >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > include:
> >> > > >> > > Web security, SSL, hacker attacks & Denial of Service
> >> > > 
> >> > > (DoS), >> > > private keys, security Microsoft Exchange, secure
> >> > > Instant >> > > Messaging, and much
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> > more.
> >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51426210/
> >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > >> > > Rails-devel mailing list
> >> > > >> > > Rai...@li...
> >> > > >> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >>
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > > -- --
> >> > > > ------
> >> > > > 
> >> > > >> --
> >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > 10 Tips for Better Web Security
> >> > > >> > Learn 10 ways to better secure your business today. Topics >>
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > covered
> >> > > > 
> >> > > >> include:
> >> > > >> > Web security, SSL, hacker attacks & Denial of Service (DoS),
> >> > > >> > private keys, security Microsoft Exchange, secure Instant >>
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > Messaging, and much
> >> > > > 
> >> > > >> more.
> >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51426210/
> >> > > >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > > >> > Rails-devel mailing list
> >> > > >> > Rai...@li...
> >> > > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >>
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > > -- --
> >> > > > ------
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > 
> >> > > >> 10 Tips for Better Web Security
> >> > > >> Learn 10 ways to better secure your business today. Topics
> >> > > 
> >> > > covered
> >> > > 
> >> > > > include:
> >> > > >> Web security, SSL, hacker attacks & Denial of Service (DoS), >>
> >> > > 
> >> > > private keys, security Microsoft Exchange, secure Instant >>
> >> > > Messaging, and much
> >> > > more.
> >> > > 
> >> > > >> http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51426210/
> >> > > >> _______________________________________________
> >> > > >> Rails-devel mailing list
> >> > > >> Rai...@li...
> >> > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > > -- --
> >> > > > --------
> >> > > > 10 Tips for Better Web Security
> >> > > > Learn 10 ways to better secure your business today. Topics
> >> > > > covered
> >> > > 
> >> > > include:
> >> > > > Web security, SSL, hacker attacks & Denial of Service (DoS),
> >> > > > private keys, security Microsoft Exchange, secure Instant
> >> > > > Messaging, and much
> >> > > 
> >> > > more.
> >> > > 
> >> > > > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51426210/
> >> > > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > > Rails-devel mailing list
> >> > > > Rai...@li...
> >> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel
> >> > > 
> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > -- --------
> >> > > 10 Tips for Better Web Security
> >> > > Learn 10 ways to better secure your business today. Topics covered
> >> > 
> >> > include:
> >> > > Web security, SSL, hacker attacks & Denial of Service (DoS),
> >> > > private keys, security Microsoft Exchange, secure Instant
> >> > > Messaging, and much
> >> > 
> >> > more.
> >> > 
> >> > > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51426210/
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > Rails-devel mailing list
> >> > > Rai...@li...
> >> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel
> >> 
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> ---- --
> >> 
> >> > 10 Tips for Better Web Security
> >> > Learn 10 ways to better secure your business today. Topics covered
> >> 
> >> include:
> >> > Web security, SSL, hacker attacks & Denial of Service (DoS), private
> >> > keys, security Microsoft Exchange, secure Instant Messaging, and
> >> > much more.
> >> > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51426210/
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Rails-devel mailing list
> >> > Rai...@li...
> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel
> >> 
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> ------ 5 Ways to Improve & Secure Unified Communications
> >> Unified Communications promises greater efficiencies for business. UC
> >> can improve internal communications as well as offer faster, more
> >> efficient ways to interact with customers and streamline customer
> >> service. Learn more! http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51426253/
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Rails-devel mailing list
> >> Rai...@li...
> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel
> > 
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----- 5 Ways to Improve & Secure Unified Communications
> > Unified Communications promises greater efficiencies for business. UC can
> > improve internal communications as well as offer faster, more efficient
> > ways to interact with customers and streamline customer service. Learn
> > more! http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51426253/
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rails-devel mailing list
> > Rai...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --- 5 Ways to Improve & Secure Unified Communications
> Unified Communications promises greater efficiencies for business. UC can
> improve internal communications as well as offer faster, more efficient
> ways to interact with customers and streamline customer service. Learn
> more! http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51426253/
> _______________________________________________
> Rails-devel mailing list
> Rai...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel