Re: [Rails-devel] 18EU: Background Map submission (revised version)

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Bill,

Sending me either a patch or a set of full copies of all changed files might
help, but I'm not sure to what extent I would really use it. I could try to
run it, or I might just keep it as a visual reference to compare our
approaches.  In any case, don't put much effort into it.  I'm myself now
about to try the Batik/Swing interface, as discussed with Brett.

Erik.

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Bill Rosgen [mailto:ro...@gm...]
> Verzonden: vrijdag 3 juni 2011 16:49
> Aan: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
> Onderwerp: Re: [Rails-devel] 18EU: Background Map submission (revised
> version)
> 
> I've also partly implemented this.  I've gotten as far as displaying the
map and
> getting it in the right place at the right size with an attempt to make
the rest
> of the interface work.  My implementation also has some problems:
> 
> - It is slow.  Drawing the map the first time takes a long time (10
seconds, or
> so, on my laptop)
> - The rest of the interface doesn't really match: I've had to suppress /
change
> the usual red outline displayed around tiles that are selected or eligible
for
> building.
> - I have yet to put any of this into XML -- it's currently all hardcoded
(size, x,y
> offset, filename of the map, etc.).
> 
> I can send you my code, but I'm not sure what is the best way to do it.  I
can
> send a patch against the current svn code, but that may not be useful if
> you've also modified many of the same things.  I've not experienced any
> crashes, but it's not clear that my code wouldn't also crash on your
machine.
> 
> Bill
> 
> On 2011-06-03, at 20:43 , Erik Vos wrote:
> 
> > I have partly implemented displaying the 18EU SVG background map, with
> > mixed success.
> > See http://voshw.home.xs4all.nl/18EUmap.jpg for a screenshot (which is
> > not very sharp, the original display is a lot better).
> > To me, it looks fine. (I haven't done zooming yet, and the tile lay
> > costs and other overlays have not yet been suppressed.)
> >
> > However, there are some issues:
> > - I'm regularly seeing the Hotspot JVM crash with an
> > EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION message (I'm running Rails from Eclipse). I
> > have quite a lot of different error reports, which don't help me one
> > bit. One possible cause I found on the web refers to garbage
> > collection.  I tried to increase memory, and indeed that seems to
> > reduce the problem (I'm now using -Xmx1024m), but the crashes have not
> completely disappeared.
> > - Map window initialization has markedly slowed down, and map actions
> > such as laying tiles have become pretty sluggish.  Displaying tooltips
> > has also slowed down.
> >
> > I would like to give other people a chance to play with this new
> > stuff, but I'm not sure if I should commit my changes to the SVN
> > trunk.  Perhaps we should create a  branch for this experimental
> > feature (but I have no clue how to do that - I've never done branching
> before).
> > On the other hand, I have already added a configuration property to
> > completely suppress the use of SVG maps, so probably no harm would be
> > done by putting this code into the trunk anyway.
> >
> > Suggestions?
> >
> > Erik.
> >
> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >> Van: Erik Vos [mailto:eri...@xs...]
> >> Verzonden: maandag 23 mei 2011 9:31
> >> Aan: 'Development list for Rails: an 18xx game'
> >> Onderwerp: Re: [Rails-devel] 18EU: Background Map submission (revised
> >> version)
> >>
> >> Thanks Bill, this looks pretty good.
> >>
> >> There is no hurry with working this out; from my side it has always
> >> been a long shot.
> >> Feel free to experiment, otherwise I will do so over time.
> >>
> >> I suppose we'll need an extra <Image> tag in Map.xml, with attributes
> >> filename, x, y, scale.
> >> In presence of a map image, displaying all tiles with non-positive
> >> numbers (i.e., preprinted tiles) should be suppressed (except when
> >> testing alignment).
> >>
> >> Erik.
> >>
> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >>> Van: Bill Rosgen [mailto:ro...@gm...]
> >>> Verzonden: maandag 23 mei 2011 4:23
> >>> Aan: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
> >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Rails-devel] 18EU: Background Map submission
> >>> (revised
> >>> version)
> >>>
> >>> Here's another attempt, as I have a copy of Adobe Illustrator, so
> >>> can
> >> convert
> >>> the PDF to SVG -- in theory without losing anything.  Let me know if
> >>> this
> >> file is
> >>> readable on other systems (I've tested it in Safari and it seems to
> >>> work
> >> fine).
> >>>
> >>> I've also removed some of the 'unnecessary' elements, such as the
> >>> income track, the hex numbers (since Rails will also display them?).
> >>> It's easy
> >> for me
> >>> to leave things like hex-numbers on the map, if desired -- creating
> >>> this
> >> file
> >>> took literally about 5 minutes, so I don't mind making other versions.
> >>>
> >>> Note that this file is *not* my artwork: I've just taken John
> >>> Tamplin's
> >> PDF and
> >>> converted it to SVG.  He probably doesn't mind, since he's
> >>> distributing
> >> the
> >>> PDF anyway, but this might be something to think about regarding
> >>> other games.  I can also re-draw some of the other maps that we
> >>> don't have PDFs for, but they won't look exactly like the printed
> >>> versions do, and this
> >> will take
> >>> more time.
> >>>
> >>> I can take a look at displaying this in Rails, but I'm likely to be
> >>> busy
> >> for about
> >>> the next week, so I can't make any promises regarding timeliness.
> >>>
> >>> Bill
> >>
> >>
> >>
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