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Re: [Rails-devel] 18Scan
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From: <Dr....@t-...> - 2011-05-11 21:32:50
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<html><head><title></title><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"/></head><body><p>Actually those ferry tiles are also needed in 1880. Thanks for making them.</p>
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<p><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: #000000;">Theres a penalty in 1880 in using those ferry tiles. So for automatic calculation we would need </span></p>
<p>a filed/tag that can be set upon traveling that hex.</p>
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<p>Regards</p>
<p>Martin, still trying to figure out a way to create a generic ParSlot mechanismn :)</p>
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<p><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: #000000;">-----Original-Nachricht-----<br /> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] 18Scan<br /> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 23:10:24 +0200<br /> From: "Erik Vos" <eri...@xs...><br /> To: "'Development list for Rails: an 18xx game'" <rai...@li...><br /> <br /> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-weight: bold;">Van:</span></font></strong><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> Scott Petersen [mailto:sc...@re...] <br /><strong><span style="font-weight: bold;">Verzonden:</span></strong> dinsdag 10 mei 2011 0:35<br /><strong><span style="font-weight: bold;">Aan:</span></strong> Development list for Rails: an 18xx game<br /><strong><span style="font-weight: bold;">Onderwerp:</span></strong> Re: [Rails-devel] 18Scan</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Erik Vos <<a href="mailto:eri...@xs...">eri...@xs...</a>> wrote:</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Yes, that will look like the physical game. I also notice that tiles 80-83 and 544-546 have the convoluted track rather than the stick track. I checked 18EU as an example, but I don't see a difference in how the XML is set up.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">I attached a patch that takes 18Scan about as far as I can take it for the time being.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Here are some notes about special rules for 18Scan that I have not implemented. Perhaps they can go to the wiki--I do not have rights to edit the wiki. Could I be granted rights?</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">2. operate trains--normal run +80 (80 if no trains)</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">3. pay dividends</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">-All player assets go to the pool (inclduing President's Certificate if no one can take it)</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">-Transfer presidencies if necessary</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">-Keep playing</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">Privates do not count toward final score (I think the other ones that don't count are likely already implemented properly)</span></font></p>
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