Re: [Rails-devel] 1856 rules error on forced purchases

[Phil D. <de...@gm...>]

Although I agree that rules enforcement is vital, rails is not
supposed to teach people how to play the game.  Reading the rules and
knowing the actions you take are legal should be an accepted minimum
for anyone who wants to play.  The problem with niggly things like the
emergency train buying rules is that they can vary enormously by game
and to have to override this for each and every one is a lot of time
that could be better spent implementing new games.

I accept that because it does handle the enforcement for many aspects
that rails is a bit of a trap for people who aren't keen on reading
rules but it's never going to be an authoritative source of what is
and is not possible simply because of the level of dedication required
to cover every eventuality and the playtesting required.

Yes it should be done, is it really important?  I think there are more
important things to spend time on (certainly more interesting ones).

Phil

On 20 March 2011 22:28, Games on the Brain <gam...@gm...> wrote:
> I agree with Aliza. I've only played a handful of games in person, but
> I've played dozens online with Rails. It is essentially how I've
> learned to play the games. I never knew that about 1856.
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Aliza Panitz <ali...@gm...> wrote:
>> Given the growing number of people who play on Rails and don't
>> actually read the rules, I think that prohibiting illegal play ought
>> to take a higher priority.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Erik Vos <eri...@xs...> wrote:
>>> I have ignored this aspect thus far.  All games currently follow the 1830
>>> rules.
>>> AFAIK this does not prohibit valid play, so going into this level of detail
>>> has not had a high priority until now. But I'll agree that it has to be done
>>> one day.
>>>
>>> Erik.
>>>
>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>>> Van: Aliza Panitz [mailto:ali...@gm...]
>>>> Verzonden: vrijdag 18 maart 2011 22:34
>>>> Aan: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
>>>> Onderwerp: [Rails-devel] 1856 rules error on forced purchases
>>>>
>>>> The 1856 rules say:
>>>>
>>>> =====================
>>>> When the president is forced to contribute to the purchase of a train, the
>>>> following special rules govern the transaction:
>>>>
>>>> Only one train may be purchased.
>>>> The train must be purchased from the open market or the bank and may not
>>>> be purchased from another company.
>>>> The train purchased must be the cheapest available from the open market
>>>> and the bank.
>>>> =====================
>>>>
>>>> However, a play-forward of a game I'm in has Rails telling a company
>>>> president that they may contribute cash up to the face value of the train
>>> in
>>>> question when making a forced purchase from another company.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, this isn't 1830 :-)
>>>>
>>>>  - Aliza
>>>>
>>>>
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