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Re: [Rails-devel] Making Rails more suited to fast interactive play.
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From: Erik V. <eri...@xs...> - 2011-03-17 21:13:00
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Only the map/OR window currently has a notification area. You would want to see your currently active window on top when it is your turn again. Erik. > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Chris Shaffer [mailto:chr...@gm...] > Verzonden: donderdag 17 maart 2011 21:35 > Aan: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > Onderwerp: Re: [Rails-devel] Making Rails more suited to fast interactive > play. > > Actually, I would be fine with Brett's more graceful approach. My answer > was that a popup would suffice, not that it is preferred. I'd rather have the > notification area solution, as long as it only bugged me when it was my turn. > > -- > Chris > > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Erik Vos <eri...@xs...> wrote: > > I'll see what can be done while working on it. Let's first make it do the job, > and then make it better. > > As Brett and Chris seem to be on opposite ends of a scale that measures > the level-of-disturbance scale they expect when getting a turn, I'll probably > start with staying in the middle with the simplest solution (just the popup). > > > > Erik. > > > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > >> Van: brett lentz [mailto:bre...@gm...] > >> Verzonden: donderdag 17 maart 2011 19:33 > >> Aan: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > >> Onderwerp: Re: [Rails-devel] Making Rails more suited to fast > >> interactive play. > >> > >> As a basic rule, I'm very opposed to popups that disrupt the flow of > >> the UI and force the user's attention away from whatever they're > >> doing. I don't like to assume that we'll know what the user wants to > >> be doing whenever the pop-up is set to be fired. > >> > >> Rather than a pop-up, perhaps we can have something in the log or > >> status areas? > >> > >> ---Brett. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Chris Shaffer > >> <chr...@gm...> > >> wrote: > >> > I didn't notice that you mentioned a popup in the quoted section at > >> > the top of your email. There's nothing about a popup in the > >> > numbered procedure list (items 1-4). A popup is probably > >> > sufficient, but audible alarms and/or flashing task bar would be > appreciated. > >> > > >> > If you can't use the new style report window during polling, that > >> > would be a big loss. I would expect to use the time while others > >> > are taking their turn to plan mine, and reviewing previous actions > >> > is part of that. Maybe a button to say "I'm planning, don't make any > saves" > >> > would solve this? > >> > > >> > Would it be possible to have an option for polling to only load a > >> > game when it is my action, and have a further option for the the > >> > popup to ask "it's your turn, are you ready to load the new file?" > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Chris > >> > > >> > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Erik Vos <eri...@xs...> wrote: > >> >> Thats a lot of requests! Thanks for thinking through all these > >> >> consequences. > >> >> > >> >> Some comments below. > >> >> > >> >> Erik. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Van: Chris Shaffer [mailto:chr...@gm...] > >> >> Verzonden: donderdag 17 maart 2011 15:09 > >> >> Aan: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > >> >> Onderwerp: Re: [Rails-devel] Making Rails more suited to fast > >> >> interactive play. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> This may not be possible, but I'd like some options to allow > >> >> players to keep control of their version of the game and prevent > >> >> loading a new file if the polling shows it's someone else's turn. > >> >> I imagine it would be annoying to be looking at the stock market > >> >> or be reviewing the game log, and suddenly the game loads a new > >> >> file and it's not even my turn yet. In the event this isn't > >> >> possible, can we at least ensure that the window positions are > >> >> remembered, so if I'm looking at the stock market on a small > >> >> laptop screen, it isn't suddenly replaced with > >> the map because an auto-load occurred? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> EV: A suspend polling menu item should be easy to add. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Perhaps let the polling interval be player configurable? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> EV: I already proposed that. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> When reviewing the log, if a player backs up and starts stepping > >> >> through it, we need to be sure this activity doesn't generate save files. > >> >> > >> >> EV: Not sure, but I think we cannot allow stepping through the > >> >> new-style report window during polling. Perhaps we have to fix > >> >> the report window, to what it was the old way. Or is flipping the > >> >> report > >> window too slow? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Will there be a configurable visual indicator (flashing? noise?) > >> >> to tell me that the polling has discovered it is my turn? So I > >> >> could turn off the audible alarm if I'm sitting at my computer > >> >> real time, but turn it on when I'm running to the kitchen to make > coffee? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> EV: I already proposed a popup. Not sure if sound is possible in a > >> >> platform-neutral way (I have no experience with programming sound). > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> And the task bar would flash to let me know it's my turn when I'm > >> >> checking my email. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> EV: Isnt that too platform-dependent? I would have no clue how to > >> >> do that anyway. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> --- > >> >> --------- > >> >> Colocation vs. Managed Hosting > >> >> A question and answer guide to determining the best fit for your > >> >> organization - today and in the future. > >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Rails-devel mailing list > >> >> Rai...@li... > >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > --- > >> > -------- > >> > Colocation vs. Managed Hosting > >> > A question and answer guide to determining the best fit for your > >> > organization - today and in the future. > >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Rails-devel mailing list > >> > Rai...@li... > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > >> > > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> --------- > >> Colocation vs. Managed Hosting > >> A question and answer guide to determining the best fit for your > >> organization - today and in the future. > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Rails-devel mailing list > >> Rai...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------- > > Colocation vs. Managed Hosting > > A question and answer guide to determining the best fit for your > > organization - today and in the future. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Colocation vs. Managed Hosting > A question and answer guide to determining the best fit for your > organization - today and in the future. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel |
