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Re: [Rails-devel] Making Rails more suited to fast interactive play.
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From: Chris S. <chr...@gm...> - 2011-03-17 20:35:09
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Actually, I would be fine with Brett's more graceful approach. My answer was that a popup would suffice, not that it is preferred. I'd rather have the notification area solution, as long as it only bugged me when it was my turn. -- Chris Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Erik Vos <eri...@xs...> wrote: > I'll see what can be done while working on it. Let's first make it do the job, and then make it better. > As Brett and Chris seem to be on opposite ends of a scale that measures the level-of-disturbance scale they expect when getting a turn, I'll probably start with staying in the middle with the simplest solution (just the popup). > > Erik. > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: brett lentz [mailto:bre...@gm...] >> Verzonden: donderdag 17 maart 2011 19:33 >> Aan: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game >> Onderwerp: Re: [Rails-devel] Making Rails more suited to fast interactive >> play. >> >> As a basic rule, I'm very opposed to popups that disrupt the flow of the UI >> and force the user's attention away from whatever they're doing. I don't like >> to assume that we'll know what the user wants to be doing whenever the >> pop-up is set to be fired. >> >> Rather than a pop-up, perhaps we can have something in the log or status >> areas? >> >> ---Brett. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> >> wrote: >> > I didn't notice that you mentioned a popup in the quoted section at >> > the top of your email. There's nothing about a popup in the numbered >> > procedure list (items 1-4). A popup is probably sufficient, but >> > audible alarms and/or flashing task bar would be appreciated. >> > >> > If you can't use the new style report window during polling, that >> > would be a big loss. I would expect to use the time while others are >> > taking their turn to plan mine, and reviewing previous actions is part >> > of that. Maybe a button to say "I'm planning, don't make any saves" >> > would solve this? >> > >> > Would it be possible to have an option for polling to only load a game >> > when it is my action, and have a further option for the the popup to >> > ask "it's your turn, are you ready to load the new file?" >> > >> > -- >> > Chris >> > >> > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Erik Vos <eri...@xs...> wrote: >> >> That’s a lot of requests! Thanks for thinking through all these >> >> consequences. >> >> >> >> Some comments below. >> >> >> >> Erik. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Van: Chris Shaffer [mailto:chr...@gm...] >> >> Verzonden: donderdag 17 maart 2011 15:09 >> >> Aan: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game >> >> Onderwerp: Re: [Rails-devel] Making Rails more suited to fast >> >> interactive play. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This may not be possible, but I'd like some options to allow players >> >> to keep control of their version of the game and prevent loading a >> >> new file if the polling shows it's someone else's turn. I imagine it >> >> would be annoying to be looking at the stock market or be reviewing >> >> the game log, and suddenly the game loads a new file and it's not >> >> even my turn yet. In the event this isn't possible, can we at least >> >> ensure that the window positions are remembered, so if I'm looking at >> >> the stock market on a small laptop screen, it isn't suddenly replaced with >> the map because an auto-load occurred? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> EV: A ‘suspend polling’ menu item should be easy to add. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Perhaps let the polling interval be player configurable? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> EV: I already proposed that. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When reviewing the log, if a player backs up and starts stepping >> >> through it, we need to be sure this activity doesn't generate save files. >> >> >> >> EV: Not sure, but I think we cannot allow stepping through the >> >> new-style report window during polling. Perhaps we have to fix the >> >> report window, to what it was the old way. Or is flipping the report >> window too slow? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Will there be a configurable visual indicator (flashing? noise?) to >> >> tell me that the polling has discovered it is my turn? So I could >> >> turn off the audible alarm if I'm sitting at my computer real time, >> >> but turn it on when I'm running to the kitchen to make coffee? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> EV: I already proposed a popup. Not sure if sound is possible in a >> >> platform-neutral way (I have no experience with programming sound). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And the task bar would flash to let me know it's my turn when I'm >> >> checking my email. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> EV: Isn’t that too platform-dependent? I would have no clue how to do >> >> that anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> --------- >> >> Colocation vs. Managed Hosting >> >> A question and answer guide to determining the best fit for your >> >> organization - today and in the future. >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Rails-devel mailing list >> >> Rai...@li... >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >> >> >> >> >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > -------- >> > Colocation vs. Managed Hosting >> > A question and answer guide to determining the best fit for your >> > organization - today and in the future. >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rails-devel mailing list >> > Rai...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Colocation vs. Managed Hosting >> A question and answer guide to determining the best fit for your >> organization - today and in the future. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails-devel mailing list >> Rai...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Colocation vs. Managed Hosting > A question and answer guide to determining the best fit > for your organization - today and in the future. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
