From: Erik V. <eri...@xs...> - 2011-03-17 19:51:29
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I'll see what can be done while working on it. Let's first make it do the job, and then make it better. As Brett and Chris seem to be on opposite ends of a scale that measures the level-of-disturbance scale they expect when getting a turn, I'll probably start with staying in the middle with the simplest solution (just the popup). Erik. > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: brett lentz [mailto:bre...@gm...] > Verzonden: donderdag 17 maart 2011 19:33 > Aan: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > Onderwerp: Re: [Rails-devel] Making Rails more suited to fast interactive > play. > > As a basic rule, I'm very opposed to popups that disrupt the flow of the UI > and force the user's attention away from whatever they're doing. I don't like > to assume that we'll know what the user wants to be doing whenever the > pop-up is set to be fired. > > Rather than a pop-up, perhaps we can have something in the log or status > areas? > > ---Brett. > > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> > wrote: > > I didn't notice that you mentioned a popup in the quoted section at > > the top of your email. There's nothing about a popup in the numbered > > procedure list (items 1-4). A popup is probably sufficient, but > > audible alarms and/or flashing task bar would be appreciated. > > > > If you can't use the new style report window during polling, that > > would be a big loss. I would expect to use the time while others are > > taking their turn to plan mine, and reviewing previous actions is part > > of that. Maybe a button to say "I'm planning, don't make any saves" > > would solve this? > > > > Would it be possible to have an option for polling to only load a game > > when it is my action, and have a further option for the the popup to > > ask "it's your turn, are you ready to load the new file?" > > > > -- > > Chris > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Erik Vos <eri...@xs...> wrote: > >> That’s a lot of requests! Thanks for thinking through all these > >> consequences. > >> > >> Some comments below. > >> > >> Erik. > >> > >> > >> > >> Van: Chris Shaffer [mailto:chr...@gm...] > >> Verzonden: donderdag 17 maart 2011 15:09 > >> Aan: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > >> Onderwerp: Re: [Rails-devel] Making Rails more suited to fast > >> interactive play. > >> > >> > >> > >> This may not be possible, but I'd like some options to allow players > >> to keep control of their version of the game and prevent loading a > >> new file if the polling shows it's someone else's turn. I imagine it > >> would be annoying to be looking at the stock market or be reviewing > >> the game log, and suddenly the game loads a new file and it's not > >> even my turn yet. In the event this isn't possible, can we at least > >> ensure that the window positions are remembered, so if I'm looking at > >> the stock market on a small laptop screen, it isn't suddenly replaced with > the map because an auto-load occurred? > >> > >> > >> > >> EV: A ‘suspend polling’ menu item should be easy to add. > >> > >> > >> > >> Perhaps let the polling interval be player configurable? > >> > >> > >> > >> EV: I already proposed that. > >> > >> > >> > >> When reviewing the log, if a player backs up and starts stepping > >> through it, we need to be sure this activity doesn't generate save files. > >> > >> EV: Not sure, but I think we cannot allow stepping through the > >> new-style report window during polling. Perhaps we have to fix the > >> report window, to what it was the old way. Or is flipping the report > window too slow? > >> > >> > >> > >> Will there be a configurable visual indicator (flashing? noise?) to > >> tell me that the polling has discovered it is my turn? So I could > >> turn off the audible alarm if I'm sitting at my computer real time, > >> but turn it on when I'm running to the kitchen to make coffee? > >> > >> > >> > >> EV: I already proposed a popup. Not sure if sound is possible in a > >> platform-neutral way (I have no experience with programming sound). > >> > >> > >> > >> And the task bar would flash to let me know it's my turn when I'm > >> checking my email. > >> > >> > >> > >> EV: Isn’t that too platform-dependent? 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