Re: [Rails-devel] 18Kaas / 1830 Variants

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

It would be nice if you could pick

option map: v1 v2
option Ruhr: a b c

so you could mix and match.

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On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Erik Vos <eri...@xs...> wrote:

> I have added an new option “Version” to 18Kaas with values “v1”, which has
> what I believe to be the original map (including Gouda and the $80 build
> cost on hex I16), and “v2”, without these two features. As I understand most
> people prefer v2, I have made that the default.
>
>
>
> The revenues for routes  including the Ruhrgebiet you’ll have to calculate
> and  manually set yourself for now.  If Stefan reads this, he might want to
> pick that up – or not.
>
>
>
> A nice list of differences for the 1830 variants that you mention will
> certainly encourage me to consider implementing these variants (as far as I
> can manage that).
>
>
>
> Erik.
>
>
>
> *Van:* Scott Petersen [mailto:sc...@re...]
> *Verzonden:* vrijdag 28 januari 2011 18:22
> *Aan:* Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
> *Onderwerp:* [Rails-devel] 18Kaas / 1830 Variants
>
>
>
> Erik, thanks for the information about 18Kaas.  My impression is that
> despite the game purportedly being created as a joke (I assume the "cheese"
> is part of this joke), the game appears to be interesting enough to take
> seriously.
>
> As for the alternate map, the two changes would be:
> * Remove the city in I8 (Gouda)
> * Remove the terrain cost in I16
>
> The other change would be to how the Ruhr is calculated.  Currently, I
> believe Rails calculates the Ruhr value as the number of other cites and
> offboards, but not dits.  I assume this the rule from your original copy of
> the map (although I have also seen this reported as doubling the whole
> run--perhaps a definition issue as to whether the dits are "cities").
>
> Ron P also posted the following Ruhr calculation variants in the BGG thread
> from his map (which I assume to be a later version)
>
> 3.1. Every train which includes the "Ruhrgebied" as the start or the end of
> its route, gets a bonus of +20 for every city in its route (except the
> "Ruhrgebied" itself), or...
> 3.2. Like above, but the bonus is +30, or ...
> 3.3. Every train, which includes the "Ruhrgebied" as the start or the end
> of its route, doubles its revenue.
>
> For the alternate map, I would prefer that 3.3 is adopted (similar to the
> current implementation, but dits are also counted).
>
> As for how important implementing the alternate map is, I would say that it
> is of medium to low importance to me, but I'm not at all familiar with how
> much time it would take to implement.
>
> What would be even more appealing to me would be to add the 1830 Coalfields
> variant.  I could make a concise list of changes if it would be helpful.
> Mostly, it is just minor map/train modifications plus one additional
> company, although the coal rights certificate would perhaps not be as
> straightforward to implement.  By the way, I am interested in this variant
> because it reduces the chance of bankruptcy, which is somewhat prevalent in
> my recent 1830 experience.
>
> There is also an 1830 Reading variant (to be used with or without
> Coalfields), but that introduces triple shares.  I would be willing to
> provide a concise list of changes for that variant as well so that you could
> decide whether it is worth the effort to add.
>
>
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